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Yes you can. I don't know what this entire obsession with containers is about in the home assistant forum. I found it actually much easier to install and manage with a VM or a virtual environment. By the way, the supervised installation has had an attempt for deprecation causing a huge thread on their forum. A lot of people use it but it is so complicated and takes so much work to maintain that the devs wanted to take it away... also because IMHO it really made 0 sense to begin with.

Disturbingly the simplest, fastest, most flexible and easiest installation is the one they recommend for developers:

Home Assistant

Installation in Python virtual environment

How to install Home Assistant in a Python virtual environment.

In my case, in a ubuntu VM, I even skip the virtual environment which is an unnecessary added complication.

Make a copy of your home-assistant configuration folder. (If you don't want to start from scratch)
Set up the VM to the same address as your previous installation.
Just install a virgin ubuntu OS, install python3.7 if it isn't already installed, this will depend on the version of ubuntu you installed. I think any version before 20.04 will need it:

sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python3.7

Copy your old .homeassistant folder into your user directory again only if you want to keep your config.
Install home assistant from my repo

python3.7 -m pip install git+https://github.com/rafale77/core.git

and start it:

hass --open-ui

You can go through another tutorial to make it auto start upon VM start but this should suffice for now.
I would argue that this isn't any more complicated than the supervised installation. To me it is actually much simpler... It is literally 3 commands in the worst case for a new install, without any funky docker software to download.

The docker container, I think helped people setup the autostart and install the right version of python... A complicated solution to a simple problem. Adding another layer of management program, virtualization, restrictions, file system management, cpu and memory inefficiency etc... just to control 5 lines of startup code?

Yeah I look at things from an overall standpoint... Yes it may appear simple at the surface but it is actually very complicated just one layer underneath so if one wants to do anything more with it, it becomes a hot mess. I use some containers but only for very small and limited applications which benefit from being self contained. For anything more than that... like home-assistant, I just find it absurd.

And yup, privacy... again why I am not running anything like this through a cloud API...
Another example of something made simple but using a very complex solution under the surface to a simple problem. I see the cloud as philosophically the same as the docker containers... Adding layers of complexity and liabilities for the sake of making it convenience.
I am a big advocate of KISS but from an overall standpoint. Not from just the user installation which is only a short one time extra effort vs. a lifetime of inefficiency and other risks.

@sender

One idea I just had to simplify things is just to install home assistant from my branch by doing this from a venv:

pip3 install git+https://github.com/rafale77/core.git

But again it does not help the containerized installation which has the disadvantage of its benefit: Contained controlled small environment so you cannot mess with it means that you can't modify anything in it.

if Microbot.is is what you are talking about... their whole business model is to get clients to rely on their clown servers for a price to actuate a button pusher... not a fan of the concept. Maybe replace the button with a your own button which would have a zwave relay?

SwitchBot Smart Switch Button Pusher - No Wiring, Wireless App or Timer Control, Add SwitchBot Hub Compatible with Alexa, Google Home, HomePod, IFTTT: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

I just sent him an email!

Vosmont is not here.... we should contact him

yeah I can create a new category for that!

@a-lurker said in Sun position or light sensor for blinds?:

If you look at the AltApp store in AltUI it shows up.

Yes, but have you tried to install it from there? I haven't, but I'm just looking at the raw database.

@a-lurker said in Sun position or light sensor for blinds?:

It may be an idea to start an alt App Store thread

Excellent idea! Not a specific openLuup issue... wonder where the best place would be?? @DesT ?

@a-lurker

There seems to be no repository information in the Alt App Store for the Heliotrope plugin? I can fix this, having found your GitHub version of it, unless you want to change it yourself.

I am not seeing a serial number but have a UUID which I assume is unique and a subvendor ID of 0x0115