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toggledbits

The issue with copy-paste is that the navigator.clipboard browser interface only works in secure context, meaning HTTPS or 127.0.0.1/localhost. I like your suggestion of using LocalStorage, and I'll look into that, but even so that's not the big challenge. For example, there isn't really a concept of "focus" on the condition/action rows. While a copy button can be added to each rather than trying to create and track focus, I have resisted adding buttons to the rows because it makes less room for useful displayed data). And how would you paste? And where, since there's no focus? The idea assumes a lot that doesn't exist here.

I have some other ideas. Sticky header has already been on my mind, so that's a likely upgrade coming. Stay tuned...

therealdb

@toggledbits I know. But with 200+ rules and no search box, it's very difficult to find the current set actions I'm working on and I have to save it first to get the current status. Header is not sticky and saving means multiple scrolls and lost of focus. Plus, I'm speaking about copy/pasting the single action/group here.

Imagine this. I want to copy an action doing an mqtt message, and paste to another rule (or in the reset). So, real copy/paste like in normal apps. This should be doable with some local storage and a couple of buttons.

CatmanV2

Now I have to say even I know about the button

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toggledbits

@therealdb You know you there's a button for that?

therealdb

Hey @toggledbits

One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets.

#1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth.

Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!

CatmanV2

@wmarcolin FWIW Home Assistant and Alexa Media Player can give you what you (and so much more) in about an hour's set up.

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therealdb

Oh boy. They even sent some invoices, as "courtesy previews". People are entertained in the old place...

If you need a way to quickly migrate from Vera to Home Assistant Zwave key, read here:
https://smarthome.community/topic/1590/how-to-migrate-from-vera-to-zwave-me-and-then-zwavejs-in-2024

I used Zwave.me as an intermediate step, but I think anything on Zwave series 500 should work.

toggledbits

It appears that Ezlo is going to new levels of paid subscription for cloud services supporting Vera hubs. I have to congratulate them. It will soon be 8 years since Ezlo acquired Vera, and despite their purported financial and "intellectual" capital, they have to date not produced a viable full replacement for Vera. Now they are going to charge extra for services for a platform that they stopped updating years ago.

If you know anyone who hasn't yet fully moved on from Captain Ahab's White Whale Chase, please remind them that my Decouple project is still up on Github to decouple a Vera Plus/Secure/Edge from Vera/Ezlo's cloud services. Veras have been said to misbehave when they can't reach the mother ship.

I have also written my first new Vera plugin in... six years? more?... the AlertPushover project will send Vera hub alerts to Pushover, so you can still get messages generated by your Vera hub without paying for Ezlo's cloud service. It's crude but functional (i.e. better than nothing/worth every penny paid).

These two projects won't replace the functionality of their cloud service and app for those who need those things. But any that don't, this may help bridge the gap. Hopefully these stragglers who have waited so long and been disappointed so often will get the idea that it's time to move on.

CatmanV2

As ever, my thanks. Upgraded to 26177 and all is well!

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toggledbits

@CatmanV2 A subsequent (to the prior post) respin of build 26177 fixed multiple profiles as well, so you're good either way.

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