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Possible feature request 2?
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Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Copying a global reaction
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With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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Difficulty defining repeating annual period
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I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
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Need help with sequence
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Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Time series documentation
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Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
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Reset a delay
CatmanV2C
I'm sure this has been asked, and answered, but damned if I can figure it out Use case: I have a rear garden with lights. A door from the kitchen into the garden and a door from the garage. Currently if I open the kitchen door the lights come on (yay) and a 3 minute delay starts. After 3 minutes, no matter what else happens, the lights go off (Boo! But also yay!) What I would like is for the 3 minute delay until the lights go off to start from the latest door open event. That is, if I'm going from kitchen to garage, and back again, the lights stay on until there's three minutes of no activity. I've tried 'hacking' with a virtual switch, but can't seem to stop the delay. Any pointers? TIA C
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[Solved] Error: Command timeout
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at _ClientAPI._commandTimeout (http://192.168.1.100:8111/client/ClientAPI.js:807:179 Seeing this randomly when returning to open browser tab after being away awhile. Once, maybe twice a day. "What did you do to trigger it?" Literally nothing, just walked away and returned and there it was. Actions taken in reasonably close proximity to this particular instance of it popping up: I'd restarted the MSR container in Portainer. I'll try to grab some logs here shortly.
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Issue with MSR UI becoming unresponsive
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I'm having an issue with MSR's UI being very unresponsive. It started happening a couple days ago and I didn't make any changes that would have caused this except adding some meross lan devices in HA. When I go into an entity action and use the search functionality, it usually will start filtering and then get to a place after a few letters are entered where it will take 30 seconds or more (sometimes minutes) for the UI to show what I am typing. During this time MSR ui is completely unresponsive. I've tried multiple browsers and multiple computers. HA and MSR are both deployed in docker. I have run HTOP on the host and when the problem happens there are no CPU/Memory spikes at all. From a functionality standpoint MSR is working perfectly. This seems to be an UI issue only. Do i need to ditch Docker and run MSR on a Proxmox VM? I have both stand alone Docker and Proxmox environments. I dont mind doing that I just want to be able to use the UI again... Installation method Home Assistant Container Core 2025.7.3 Frontend 20250702.3 nothing crazy in the logs except some openweather map stuff that doesn't make any sense as it is working fine in MSR Any help would be greatly appreciated Reactor latest-25328-b2ed1365 app 25328 configuration from /var/reactor/config NODE_PATH /opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.843Z <app:null> Reactor build latest-25328-b2ed1365 starting on v24.11.1 /usr/local/bin/node [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> Process ID 1 user/group 0/0; docker; platform linux/x64 #161-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 22 14:25:40 UTC 2025; locale (undefined) [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> Basedir /opt/reactor; data in /var/reactor/storage [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> NODE_PATH=/opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.865Z <app:null> Resolved timezone=America/New_York, environment TZ=America/New_York; offset minutes from UTC=-300 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.867Z <default:null> Module i18n v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.867Z <app:null> Configured locale (undefined); selected locale(s) en-US.UTF-8 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.879Z <app:null> Loaded locale en-US for en-US [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.879Z <app:null> Local date/time using configured timezone and locale formatting is "11/30/2025, 3:01:53 PM" [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.889Z <Structure:null> Module Structure v25326 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.890Z <Capabilities:null> Module Capabilities v24312 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.904Z <Plugin:null> Module Plugin v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.923Z <Timer:null> Module Timer v25279 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.924Z <TimerBroker:null> Module TimerBroker v25314 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.927Z <Entity:null> Module Entity v25251 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.929Z <Controller:null> Module Controller v25253 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.930Z <AlertManager:null> Module AlertManager v25318 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.937Z <default:null> Module Ruleset v25283 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.937Z <default:null> Module Rulesets v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.942Z <GlobalExpression:null> Module GlobalExpression v25258 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.953Z <Predicate:null> Module Predicate v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.956Z <Rule:null> Module Rule v25323 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.958Z <GlobalReaction:null> Module GlobalReaction v25292 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.959Z <Engine:null> Module Engine v25325 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.964Z <httpapi:null> Module httpapi v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.972Z <wsapi:null> Module wsapi v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.994Z <TaskQueue:null> Module TaskQueue 24138 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.994Z <VeraController:null> Module VeraController v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:54.179Z <HassController:null> Module HassController v25325 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.797Z <OWMWeatherController:null> Module OWMWeatherController v25268 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.800Z <SystemController:null> Module SystemController v25323 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.807Z <MQTTController:null> Module MQTTController v22092 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:20.630Z <OWMWeatherController:CRIT> FetchError: request to https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather?lat=xxxxxxxxxx&lon=-xxxxxxxxx&appid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&units=standard&_r=1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxfailed, reason: [-] FetchError: request to https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather?lat=xxxxxxxxxxx&lon=-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&appid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&units=standard&_r=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxfailed, reason: at ClientRequest.<anonymous> (/opt/reactor/node_modules/node-fetch/lib/index.js:1501:11) at ClientRequest.emit (node:events:508:28) at ClientRequest.emit (node:domain:489:12) at emitErrorEvent (node:_http_client:108:11) at TLSSocket.socketErrorListener (node:_http_client:575:5) at TLSSocket.emit (node:events:508:28) at TLSSocket.emit (node:domain:489:12) at emitErrorNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:170:8) at emitErrorCloseNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:129:3) at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:89:21
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Possible Bug With Reaction Groups

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    Not 100% sure this is a bug because I may have an error in my logic but here is the issue I am running into.

    I have created 3 dynamic groups, the first group called "battery_35" filters all battery_powered devices that have a battery_level between 11% and 35%. My second dynamic group is called "battery_10" and it filters the same type of devices but only the ones with a battery_level between 1% and 10%. The third group is "battery_dead" and filters the same type of devices as the previous groups, but only the ones that have 0% battery. Refer to my earlier thread about the specifics of the dynamic group if necessary.

    My triggers are as follow in the screenshot. Basically if the local expression that spits out the devices that match the criteria for one of three dynamic groups changes and the respective dynamic group is false, the rule goes true.

    Screenshot 2022-10-31 at 8.34.16 PM.png

    I have 3 reaction groups, all set up basically the same. I have a condition for each group to only trigger the notify action if the variable that contains the low battery device (either 35%, 10% or dead) changes. I have it set this way to prevent multiple notifications of device low battery and to mitigate the need to create 3 different rulesets for each battery level.

    Screenshot 2022-10-31 at 8.36.40 PM.png Screenshot 2022-10-31 at 8.37.05 PM.png Screenshot 2022-10-31 at 8.38.44 PM.png

    The issue occurs here, if say the "name_battery_10" and/or "name_battery_dead" are empty, and the "name_battery_35" changes (ie a device battery is now between 11-35%) the "35% Battery" successfully (and expectedly) triggers and the notification is sent. However at the same time one of the triggers "name_battery_10" or "name_battery_dead" trigger and those notifications are sent, albeit with empty device names since no devices actually met their filters (haven't found a pattern of which trigger group goes triggers). This only happens if the variable values are empty. If all the variables are not empty I do not experience this issue.

    I think I could mitigate this by adding the same dynamic group condition that's in the triggers section into the reaction groups but before I do this I want to see if this is a bug or incorrect logic. I have included some logs when this issue occurred I do not see any error besides the dynamic group for "offline devices" which I am still figuring out so please ignore that :).

    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:18.571Z <Rule:INFO> Low Battery (rule-l9vvokiq in Notifications) starting evaluation; because entity-changed Entity#hass>sensor_backyard_gate_battery_level
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:18.705Z <Rule:INFO> Low Battery (rule-l9vvokiq in Notifications) evaluated; trigger state unchanged (false); rule state remains RESET
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:18.709Z <Rule:INFO> Low Battery (rule-l9vvokiq in Notifications) evaluation complete
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:18.782Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.attributes.x_hass.state == 'unknown' ||  entity.attributes.x_hass.state == 'unavailable' || entity.attributes.x_hass.state == 'none'
     error with Group#hass>controller_all: [ReferenceError]ReferenceError: Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:18.783Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> DynamicGroupController#groups filter expression entity.attributes.x_hass.state == 'unknown' ||  entity.attributes.x_hass.state == 'unavailable' || entity.attributes.x_hass.state == 'none'
     error with System#hass>system: [ReferenceError]ReferenceError: Invalid scope in reference to member state of (object)null
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:19.047Z <Rule:INFO> Low Battery (rule-l9vvokiq in Notifications) starting evaluation; because entity-changed Group#groups>low_battery_35
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:19.148Z <Rule:INFO> Low Battery (rule-l9vvokiq in Notifications) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to SET!
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:19.198Z <Rule:INFO> Low Battery (rule-l9vvokiq in Notifications) evaluation complete
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:19.200Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Low Battery<SET>" (rule-l9vvokiq:S)
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:19.230Z <Rule:INFO> Low Battery (rule-l9vvokiq in Notifications) starting evaluation; because timer-trigger Timer#rule-l9vvokiq
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:19.331Z <Rule:INFO> Low Battery (rule-l9vvokiq in Notifications) evaluated; rule state transition from SET to RESET!
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:19.380Z <Rule:INFO> Low Battery (rule-l9vvokiq in Notifications) evaluation complete
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:19.384Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Low Battery<SET> (rule-l9vvokiq:S)
    [latest-22302]2022-11-01T02:48:19.385Z <Engine:INFO> Low Battery<SET> all actions completed. ```![Screenshot 2022-10-31 at 8.38.44 PM.png](/assets/uploads/files/1667273939467-screenshot-2022-10-31-at-8.38.44-pm-resized.png)
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      There's a bug here, but probably not what you think: the changes operator should not be allowed in constraints. It's special, in that it's a reactive operator that can only respond once and immediately when a value changes. After it has declared that a value has changed, that test will not succeed again unless and until the value changes again, so its behavior in a constraint is effectively undefined and nondeterministic. Fixed: next build the changes operator will not be listed as an option in constraint context.

      Instead of using changes again on your group, why not just test to see if your name list is empty/blank or not?

      The group expression errors showing in the log suggest you have a battery-operated device (or whatever matches your selectors) that isn't from Hass (i.e. the x_hass capability isn't present on it). You may need to handle this condition in your expression, which may be as simple as using the coalesce operators in your expression so that a missing attribute doesn't generate an error:

      entity.attributes.x_hass?.state == 'unknown' ||  entity.attributes.x_hass?.state == 'unavailable' || entity.attributes.x_hass?.state == 'none'
      

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        There's a bug here, but probably not what you think: the changes operator should not be allowed in constraints. It's special, in that it's a reactive operator that can only respond once and immediately when a value changes. After it has declared that a value has changed, that test will not succeed again unless and until the value changes again, so its behavior in a constraint is effectively undefined and nondeterministic. Fixed: next build the changes operator will not be listed as an option in constraint context.

        Instead of using changes again on your group, why not just test to see if your name list is empty/blank or not?

        The group expression errors showing in the log suggest you have a battery-operated device (or whatever matches your selectors) that isn't from Hass (i.e. the x_hass capability isn't present on it). You may need to handle this condition in your expression, which may be as simple as using the coalesce operators in your expression so that a missing attribute doesn't generate an error:

        entity.attributes.x_hass?.state == 'unknown' ||  entity.attributes.x_hass?.state == 'unavailable' || entity.attributes.x_hass?.state == 'none'
        
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        @toggledbits said in Possible Bug With Reaction Groups:

        There's a bug here, but probably not what you think: the changes operator should not be allowed in constraints. It's special, in that it's a reactive operator that can only respond once and immediately when a value changes. After it has declared that a value has changed, that test will not succeed again unless and until the value changes again, so its behavior in a constraint is effectively undefined and nondeterministic. Fixed: next build the changes operator will not be listed as an option in constraint context.
        Instead of using changes again on your group, why not just test to see if your name list is empty/blank or not?

        Sounds good, I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out what was wrong. I swapped it for "is not empty" now it triggers as expected.

        @toggledbits said in Possible Bug With Reaction Groups:

        The group expression errors showing in the log suggest you have a battery-operated device (or whatever matches your selectors) that isn't from Hass (i.e. the x_hass capability isn't present on it). You may need to handle this condition in your expression, which may be as simple as using the coalesce operators in your expression so that a missing attribute doesn't generate an error:

        This seems to have done the trick as well.

        I have a question about the time shown stamps shown in the logs, it never matches up with my local time. Its usually a few hours ahead, is there anyway to have that changed to match the time zone MSR is in? It makes debugging a bit easier.

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          @toggledbits said in Possible Bug With Reaction Groups:

          There's a bug here, but probably not what you think: the changes operator should not be allowed in constraints. It's special, in that it's a reactive operator that can only respond once and immediately when a value changes. After it has declared that a value has changed, that test will not succeed again unless and until the value changes again, so its behavior in a constraint is effectively undefined and nondeterministic. Fixed: next build the changes operator will not be listed as an option in constraint context.
          Instead of using changes again on your group, why not just test to see if your name list is empty/blank or not?

          Sounds good, I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out what was wrong. I swapped it for "is not empty" now it triggers as expected.

          @toggledbits said in Possible Bug With Reaction Groups:

          The group expression errors showing in the log suggest you have a battery-operated device (or whatever matches your selectors) that isn't from Hass (i.e. the x_hass capability isn't present on it). You may need to handle this condition in your expression, which may be as simple as using the coalesce operators in your expression so that a missing attribute doesn't generate an error:

          This seems to have done the trick as well.

          I have a question about the time shown stamps shown in the logs, it never matches up with my local time. Its usually a few hours ahead, is there anyway to have that changed to match the time zone MSR is in? It makes debugging a bit easier.

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          @pabla Logs are in UTC.

          *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.173
          *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

          *HASS 2025.12.4, Core 2025.12.3
          w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
          FW: v1.1
          SDK: v7.23.1

          *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
          MSR: latest-25328-b2ed1365
          MQTTController: 25139
          ZWave Controller: 25139

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