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[SOLVED] Will Pulse work for retrying a ruleset if the device hasn't responded as expected

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    They can -- it depends on when their respective conditions get them rolling...

    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      They can -- it depends on when their respective conditions get them rolling...

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      #22

      @toggledbits Before heading off to sleep the house slips into "night" mode. One stat, the upstairs one, did not change to night temp so I came in to watch the correction happen.

      It didn't. No sustained for timers rolling, nothing.

      I moved the Sustained for 300s back down to the next group level, that of the Up and Down t-stat level and the sustained for timer showed up. #win

      When I hit reset the rule state for Arm for Heating started its sustained for timer as expected. So did the timer for down which makes sense because it is the stat that didn't come along.

      And then when the 300 seconds ran out... nothing. Nothing happened. Even the highest level pulse didn't... pulse.

      Screen Shot 2021-12-14 at 10.48.11 PM.png

      Up is still wrong and nothing looks like it's running to correct it. I'm wondering if moving the pulse to the top-most level isn't working. I can't see why not - but I don't know why the sustained for timers didn't go at one level higher, either.

      Update: those moves didn't help, when the timers ran out the AND Upstairs for at least 300 secs [or] bar blinked and... no reaction ran.

      *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.123
      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

      *HASS 2025.9.4
      w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
      MSR: latest-25264-2fbe9217
      MQTTController: 25139
      ZWave Controller: 25139

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        Stats is in AND mode, so both Upstairs and Downstairs need to be true at the same time. Is that intended?

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          Stats is in AND mode, so both Upstairs and Downstairs need to be true at the same time. Is that intended?

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          #24

          @toggledbits Wow, great catch. There's also another error in this one where statmode and setpoints should be AND, not OR. I think this got bolluxed when I started moving groups into groups into groups.

          Quick review of the other rulesets and I see a couple more of these here and there including one that I was trying to test/troubleshoot just this morning.

          Nice catch - appreciate it! Now I'll validate these work again and then, one by one, make the pulse and sustained for edits back up to higher levels.

          *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.123
          *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

          *HASS 2025.9.4
          w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

          *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
          MSR: latest-25264-2fbe9217
          MQTTController: 25139
          ZWave Controller: 25139

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            Remember to give those status lines a good hard squiz. I still don't understand your logic completely, but when you said you expected pulses to be rolling, and the top interior group was not true while an interior group was true (and that was correct/expected, as you also pointed out), that was the clue to make me ask about the operation on the group. Follow your groups up from where they are as expected to where they are not, and check those operators! 🙂

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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              Remember to give those status lines a good hard squiz. I still don't understand your logic completely, but when you said you expected pulses to be rolling, and the top interior group was not true while an interior group was true (and that was correct/expected, as you also pointed out), that was the clue to make me ask about the operation on the group. Follow your groups up from where they are as expected to where they are not, and check those operators! 🙂

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              @toggledbits I'm marking this as solved because I watched a couple of the rulesets WIA this morning as the day's temps ramped up.

              Thanks for your incite and guidance as always, sir!

              *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.123
              *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

              *HASS 2025.9.4
              w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

              *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
              MSR: latest-25264-2fbe9217
              MQTTController: 25139
              ZWave Controller: 25139

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