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Gradually turn on lights.
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I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
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Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
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@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
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Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
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I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Advice reqeusted to migrate MSR from Bare Metal to Container
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Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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    @toggledbits Is there a prescribed (read: easy) way to identify which Rule(s) a particular device is explicitly mentioned in? I'm busy replacing an in-wall dimmer, and /think/ I know which two Rules the old module participated in, but want to be 100% certain. Thanks!

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      Too cool for school, sir! I've been in lurk mode lately due to life interrupting, but didn't want this genius move to go unnoticed.

      Next stop: Cause Ezlo firmware to be deleted from Ezlo boxes, leaving only the good stuff. Watching old Forum tells me they are still moving in many odd directions half a step at a time. Yawn. Should my Vera die, I will almost certainly jump to Hubitat + Reactor.

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      @librasun said in Fun Stuff:

      Should my Vera die, I will almost certainly jump to Hubitat + Reactor.

      I saw the writing on the walls, from other 3rd party vendors, about the Vera line and made that change. HE C7 + MSR docker. Thrilled I did and removed my last Vera device a couple of days ago. I have my second HE C7 hub staged and ready to replace the Vera+ at my cabin next week. I'll be using the Rule Machine there though. Not as friendly as MSR, but easily as powerful.

      @librasun said in Fun Stuff:

      @toggledbits Is there a prescribed (read: easy) way to identify which Rule(s) a particular device is explicitly mentioned in? I'm busy replacing an in-wall dimmer, and /think/ I know which two Rules the old module participated in, but want to be 100% certain. Thanks!

      I would second this. Maybe list out the locations they are used within the Entities section? Although now that I'm off Vera, I don't plan many changes. I updated the rules I could remember/find and then waited a day or two to see the Alerts for the ones I missed. I ended up documenting all my Vera ID numbers of the devices because one would creep up a week later and I had a hard time remember who Vera>256 was.

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        @librasun said in Fun Stuff:

        Should my Vera die, I will almost certainly jump to Hubitat + Reactor.

        I saw the writing on the walls, from other 3rd party vendors, about the Vera line and made that change. HE C7 + MSR docker. Thrilled I did and removed my last Vera device a couple of days ago. I have my second HE C7 hub staged and ready to replace the Vera+ at my cabin next week. I'll be using the Rule Machine there though. Not as friendly as MSR, but easily as powerful.

        @librasun said in Fun Stuff:

        @toggledbits Is there a prescribed (read: easy) way to identify which Rule(s) a particular device is explicitly mentioned in? I'm busy replacing an in-wall dimmer, and /think/ I know which two Rules the old module participated in, but want to be 100% certain. Thanks!

        I would second this. Maybe list out the locations they are used within the Entities section? Although now that I'm off Vera, I don't plan many changes. I updated the rules I could remember/find and then waited a day or two to see the Alerts for the ones I missed. I ended up documenting all my Vera ID numbers of the devices because one would creep up a week later and I had a hard time remember who Vera>256 was.

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        @3rdstng said in Fun Stuff:

        I would second this.

        Glad I'm not along in wanting this feature, which -- full disclosure -- I'm hoping would further ease my eventual transition away from Vera and onto, say, Hubitat.

        So that's two scenarios in which MSR could help:

        (a) Swapping a faulty device (e.g. wall switch) for a direct replacement, paired with the existing hub;
        (b) Finding each occurrence in MSR of OldHub>Device_X tied to (but unpaired from) my old hub, to swap it for NewHub>Device_X on the new hub.

        Hope that makes sense. It's almost like asking for an EDIT > FIND & REPLACE feature in a word processor. 🙂

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          MSR being the bridge between the two hubs was incredible. Couldn't have done it without it. I moved my Reactor for Vera over first and cleaned that up. Then I moved ALL my scenes and steps that the House Modes did. This set either hub to purely be a device connection point with no rules running on either. I started the migration near the end of August and did 3 - 5 devices at a time, every few days. Any more than 5 at a time was hard to track and adjust MSR along the way. The only real issue was towards the end when I had a couple of switches that would not communicate back to Vera. They were too far away, forcing me move the Vera hub. Luckily I only needed to move it once and get that side of the house in one swoop.

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            MSR being the bridge between the two hubs was incredible. Couldn't have done it without it. I moved my Reactor for Vera over first and cleaned that up. Then I moved ALL my scenes and steps that the House Modes did. This set either hub to purely be a device connection point with no rules running on either. I started the migration near the end of August and did 3 - 5 devices at a time, every few days. Any more than 5 at a time was hard to track and adjust MSR along the way. The only real issue was towards the end when I had a couple of switches that would not communicate back to Vera. They were too far away, forcing me move the Vera hub. Luckily I only needed to move it once and get that side of the house in one swoop.

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            @3rdstng This.

            I implemented the same plan. Have a couple hours doing laundry? Perfect. Migrate as many devices as that time allows and update the previously-migrated rules from Vera Reactor to MSR.

            The migration script @toggledbits provided for Vera Reactor users was huge. Making adjustments was much quicker than rebuilding rulesets from scratch.

            I started almost Day One of MSR being released and just this past weekend removed the final hard device from Vera as well as officially shut down my SiteSensors.

            *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
            *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

            *HASS 2025.6.0
            w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

            *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
            MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
            MQTTController: 25139
            ZWave Controller: 25139

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              Welp, it got to be late last night and I had the Amazon browser window open, so guys... I pulled the trigger and ordered my Hubitat. Will be here tomorrow and I fully intend to put it through its paces. Vera Plus retirement, here we come!!

              P.S. This will leave me with perfectly good (2) Vera Plus, (1) Vera Edge, (1) ezlo Plus and (1) ezlo Atom sitting in my closet, hoping to sell. Is there a "Marketplace" section on the Forum??

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                @librasun said in Finding Missing Devices & Migrating Devices:

                Is there a prescribed (read: easy) way to identify which Rule(s) a particular device is explicitly mentioned in?

                I thought this deserved its own topic.

                At the moment, no, at least, nothing very tidy. If you're on a Linux-based platform (including NAS docker containers), you can fgrep the storage directory for the device ID.

                $ fgrep -r 'vera>device_10' storage/rules/*
                storage/rules/rule-klmlmzg9.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                storage/rules/rule-kln4zy9e.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                storage/rules/rule-klvag40b.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                storage/rules/rule-klwtr0re.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                storage/rules/rule-km6w0xwi.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                storage/rules/rule-kmkt2705.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                

                You can then open each of those files and look for the name field to find the rule name. Not great, but maybe better than nothing. Once you're used to it, it's quick. If you expand the search to the storage directory in general, you'll also find the expressions and reactions.

                The issue at hand is that Reactor doesn't use a proper database for storage currently. The database I'd most like to use, mongodb, would lend itself to storing this type of data and maintaining a lot of flexible relationships that would allow queries of this kind to be easy, but comes at a high cost: mongodb just as an add-on is much larger than Reactor itself, more than doubling the demand on both storage and RAM before even doing any work; and as a separate service on which Reactor would then depend entirely, it introduces a big new point of failure in the system.

                I haven't come up with a solution I like yet, but I'll confess it's also something I haven't spent a huge amount of time thinking about. It may simply be that for the relatively low use this type of query would receive, brute force is the best answer (i.e. something under Tools that just rips through the objects directly, no database storage/overhead).

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  [SOLVED - OK to remove this]

                  SOLUTION: I had mistakenly assigned the NAS folder /REACTOR instead of REACTOR/DATA to the '/var/reactor' volume when setting up the Docker Container for MSR. Once rectified, all Rulesets reappeared like magic.

                  Speaking of finding missing items, I've consulted the Docs under "Installation" and come up empty on solving a mini-crisis I got myself into tonight after rebuilding my RAID volume. On my Synology NAS > Docker > MSR setup, I had taken pains to backup the entirety of the shared REACTOR folder contents. That went well.

                  After successfully building my new RAID array (with larger, more reliable HDDs), I restored all the REACTOR folder contents in the same (top-level) location on my NAS. It was time to reinstall Docker, download the Reactor 'latest' image, then get the Container going. Again, all went smoothly.

                  Here's my problem: MSR latest-21307-1746e27 is running fine, and although it lives among all the restored folders and subfolders - full of my existing Rulesets, etc. - the UI shows none of them. Instead, I get the classic, "This rule set is empty. Click "Add Rule" to add a rule to it."

                  Q: How can I force a fresh MSR installation to 'see' my existing settings?

                  THANKS for any guidance! I'm a little scared now, and all sphincters still unclenching from the NAS HDD replacement surgery.

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                    @librasun said in Finding Missing Devices & Migrating Devices:

                    Is there a prescribed (read: easy) way to identify which Rule(s) a particular device is explicitly mentioned in?

                    I thought this deserved its own topic.

                    At the moment, no, at least, nothing very tidy. If you're on a Linux-based platform (including NAS docker containers), you can fgrep the storage directory for the device ID.

                    $ fgrep -r 'vera>device_10' storage/rules/*
                    storage/rules/rule-klmlmzg9.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                    storage/rules/rule-kln4zy9e.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                    storage/rules/rule-klvag40b.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                    storage/rules/rule-klwtr0re.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                    storage/rules/rule-km6w0xwi.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                    storage/rules/rule-kmkt2705.json:                        "entity": "vera>device_10",
                    

                    You can then open each of those files and look for the name field to find the rule name. Not great, but maybe better than nothing. Once you're used to it, it's quick. If you expand the search to the storage directory in general, you'll also find the expressions and reactions.

                    The issue at hand is that Reactor doesn't use a proper database for storage currently. The database I'd most like to use, mongodb, would lend itself to storing this type of data and maintaining a lot of flexible relationships that would allow queries of this kind to be easy, but comes at a high cost: mongodb just as an add-on is much larger than Reactor itself, more than doubling the demand on both storage and RAM before even doing any work; and as a separate service on which Reactor would then depend entirely, it introduces a big new point of failure in the system.

                    I haven't come up with a solution I like yet, but I'll confess it's also something I haven't spent a huge amount of time thinking about. It may simply be that for the relatively low use this type of query would receive, brute force is the best answer (i.e. something under Tools that just rips through the objects directly, no database storage/overhead).

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                    @toggledbits said in Finding Missing Devices & Migrating Devices:

                    At the moment, no, at least, nothing very tidy. If you're on a Linux-based platform (including NAS docker containers), you can fgrep the storage directory for the device ID.

                    I don't like to mongodb idea. Reactor is very light and nimble. Plus with everything being text based files, it's harder to corrupt than a DB, thus easier to restore to if you need to.

                    I do like something under the tools section. Maybe just a stupid simple GUI to a fgrep cli command with collected variables that then display the results in the GUI as well? It's crude, but it should work. Maybe? And also now that my migration is done, I think I would only really use it to find a device I know is in use within a rule I nested elsewhere. I've tried to keep them grouped in areas, like Roller Shades, Light Schedules, Announcements, etc. But every once in a while there is a rule that straddles both and I hunt for it. Aside from that, I am perfectly fine with the red bell in the top right.

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                      @toggledbits said in Finding Missing Devices & Migrating Devices:

                      At the moment, no, at least, nothing very tidy. If you're on a Linux-based platform (including NAS docker containers), you can fgrep the storage directory for the device ID.

                      I don't like to mongodb idea. Reactor is very light and nimble. Plus with everything being text based files, it's harder to corrupt than a DB, thus easier to restore to if you need to.

                      I do like something under the tools section. Maybe just a stupid simple GUI to a fgrep cli command with collected variables that then display the results in the GUI as well? It's crude, but it should work. Maybe? And also now that my migration is done, I think I would only really use it to find a device I know is in use within a rule I nested elsewhere. I've tried to keep them grouped in areas, like Roller Shades, Light Schedules, Announcements, etc. But every once in a while there is a rule that straddles both and I hunt for it. Aside from that, I am perfectly fine with the red bell in the top right.

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                      @3rdstng said in Finding Missing Devices & Migrating Devices:

                      Maybe just a stupid simple GUI to a fgrep cli command with collected variables

                      I think Hubitat handles it by adding a reference - complete with hyperlink - for every Rule containing a specific device or virtual device. One click to jump over to the Rule. Kinda neat.

                      As someone mentioned above, I think the idea place for MSR to have this (if it were to become a feature) is under Entities. Truly it could spare me many hours of hunting and pecking - and never being entirely certain - that I sadly do not have most days.

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