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Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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[SOLVED] New iblind and zwaveJScontroller/MSR not communicating

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    @toggledbits I'm conducting an experiment.

    DR2 blind (22-0) is configured as [Default] direction and using MSRs ZWJSController. I have set the three Reactions to:

    DR OPEN: cover.open
    DR CLOSE: cover.close
    DR @25: position.set = .75 (resulting in the blind being tilted open 25%, "top inside").

    All other iblinds are using HA's ZWJSC plugin and all ran flawlessly for the past 24 hours. I'm wondering if this issue is somehow load-induced. If this single blind remains solid I will add a second and so on.

    UPDATE: as my patience level on any given day runs the gamut between saint and toddler I've added KITCHEN (18-0) to this test with the same settings as above excepting .80 instead of .75. Both of these iblinds were the most impacted in being unresponsive.

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    @toggledbits we have fail!

    Added two more iblinds to the test. They failed to respond so I isolated one of them and did the following tests on node 8-0:

    LR Left OPEN: cover.open
    LR Left CLOSE: cover.close
    LR Left @20: position.set = .80 (resulting in the blind being tilted open 20%, "top inside").

    Results:
    cover.open = iblind opens, position of 50
    cover.close = iblind moves to position of 50 <---expected result, position 0
    position.set = iblind moves to position of 80

    As this Reaction was to run BOTH left and right blinds I removed the right blind and ran the left solo as the kitchen and DR are (both still working fine, btw). For reference, Kitchen was existing unit and was re-interviewed to be current, DR is a brand new unit. LR's are existing units re-interviewed.

    Log forthcoming.

    *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
    *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

    *HAOS
    Core 2026.1.1
    w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
    FW: v1.1
    SDK: v7.23.1

    *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
    MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
    MQTTController: 25139
    ZWave Controller: 25139

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      tamorgen
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      #36

      @gwp1, I just replaced 6 of my ib2 motors with ib3.1, and they are working just fine (12 of 14 are v3.1). I can control them from MSR with ZWJSController without issue.

      My only issue is actually Home Assistant itself. I've had to go to great lengths to get a somewhat working card for each of the blinds in my home, and I'm still not completely there yet. I'm hoping either the ZWaveJS devlopers or the HA developers figure out whats going on with the 'state' value for each of these, as they all return 'unknown', so none of the cards work out of the box.

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        @gwp1, I just replaced 6 of my ib2 motors with ib3.1, and they are working just fine (12 of 14 are v3.1). I can control them from MSR with ZWJSController without issue.

        My only issue is actually Home Assistant itself. I've had to go to great lengths to get a somewhat working card for each of the blinds in my home, and I'm still not completely there yet. I'm hoping either the ZWaveJS devlopers or the HA developers figure out whats going on with the 'state' value for each of these, as they all return 'unknown', so none of the cards work out of the box.

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        @tamorgen said in [SOLVED-ish] New iblind and zwaveJScontroller/MSR not communicating:

        they are working just fine (12 of 14 are v3.1). I can control them from MSR with ZWJSController without issue.

        It's more helpful if, instead of generalized statements, you provide settings/configurations you're using whilst having this success for comparison sake.

        I ran into an issue this morning wherein, after completing the weekly zwave_device.set_config, the iblinds finish in a closed position but reporting back in all systems (HA, both ZWJSC's, and MSR) as 50 or open. I've created a workaround wherein, after completing the config, they wait a few seconds then tilt 20% and then set back to open.

        *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

        *HAOS
        Core 2026.1.1
        w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
        FW: v1.1
        SDK: v7.23.1

        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
        MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
        MQTTController: 25139
        ZWave Controller: 25139

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          @tamorgen said in [SOLVED-ish] New iblind and zwaveJScontroller/MSR not communicating:

          they are working just fine (12 of 14 are v3.1). I can control them from MSR with ZWJSController without issue.

          It's more helpful if, instead of generalized statements, you provide settings/configurations you're using whilst having this success for comparison sake.

          I ran into an issue this morning wherein, after completing the weekly zwave_device.set_config, the iblinds finish in a closed position but reporting back in all systems (HA, both ZWJSC's, and MSR) as 50 or open. I've created a workaround wherein, after completing the config, they wait a few seconds then tilt 20% and then set back to open.

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          @gwp1 said in [SOLVED-ish] New iblind and zwaveJScontroller/MSR not communicating:

          It's more helpful if, instead of generalized statements, you provide settings/configurations you're using whilst having this success for comparison sake.

          All of mine are like this, cover.close, cover.open.

          Perform cover.close on Office Blind Left (zwavejs>30-0)
          Delay for 5 seconds
          Perform cover.close on Office Blind Right (zwavejs>31-0)
          Delay for 5 seconds
          Perform zwave_device.refresh on Office Blind Left (zwavejs>30-0)
          Perform zwave_device.refresh on Office Blind Right (zwavejs>31-0)
          

          I'm not even sure the zwave.device.refresh is needed anymore. This was more of an issue when trying to force the old device class to refresh on both the binary switch and the multi-level switch, as they weren't directly connected and didn't update each other. It was one of the reasons that the folks at iBlinds were pushing to get the window device class implemented.

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            @gwp1 said in [SOLVED-ish] New iblind and zwaveJScontroller/MSR not communicating:

            It's more helpful if, instead of generalized statements, you provide settings/configurations you're using whilst having this success for comparison sake.

            All of mine are like this, cover.close, cover.open.

            Perform cover.close on Office Blind Left (zwavejs>30-0)
            Delay for 5 seconds
            Perform cover.close on Office Blind Right (zwavejs>31-0)
            Delay for 5 seconds
            Perform zwave_device.refresh on Office Blind Left (zwavejs>30-0)
            Perform zwave_device.refresh on Office Blind Right (zwavejs>31-0)
            

            I'm not even sure the zwave.device.refresh is needed anymore. This was more of an issue when trying to force the old device class to refresh on both the binary switch and the multi-level switch, as they weren't directly connected and didn't update each other. It was one of the reasons that the folks at iBlinds were pushing to get the window device class implemented.

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            gwp1
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            @tamorgen I see you doing the delay as I do. How do you do a weekly config? (The blinds will "drift" if not config'd weekly or bi-weekly.

            I have removed the zwave_device.refresh to see how that goes.

            Question: you have a great number of blinds in your fleet as do I - how many blinds do you group together? I see you grouped two for your office blinds, do you have more than two at a time grouped in a single reaction? Or are you skipping reactions and adding each entity in each ruleset?

            *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
            *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

            *HAOS
            Core 2026.1.1
            w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
            FW: v1.1
            SDK: v7.23.1

            *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
            MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
            MQTTController: 25139
            ZWave Controller: 25139

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              @tamorgen I see you doing the delay as I do. How do you do a weekly config? (The blinds will "drift" if not config'd weekly or bi-weekly.

              I have removed the zwave_device.refresh to see how that goes.

              Question: you have a great number of blinds in your fleet as do I - how many blinds do you group together? I see you grouped two for your office blinds, do you have more than two at a time grouped in a single reaction? Or are you skipping reactions and adding each entity in each ruleset?

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              tamorgen
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              @gwp1 ,

              I really don't have any sort of weekly config on mine. I haven't noticed mine drifting at all, but a weekly recalibrate wouldn't be a bad idea.

              I have rules for hourly refreshing the the cover, position, and switch positions that are now pretty much legacy of the old device class. I only have two of the IB2 devices left, and they're in non critical rooms ( guest bedroom and mudroom). I'll replace those later this year. Once those are gone, I'll be able to remove those three hourly rules.

              I have reactions set up for each set of windows in a room. Most rooms only have two windows, so I group those. The lone exception is my family room, where I have four windows, but on different walls. I have those set up on two separate reactions, which allows me to separately set the blinds to a partial open position when the sun is shining directly in. The largest events with the blinds are at sunrise, sunset, and when the house is vacant or someone arrives, when I'll set the reactions from the rule, and I have "Wait for completion" enabled after each call for a reaction. It takes a couple of minutes for all my blinds to open/close when it's called. I initially didn't do this, but iBlinds recommended not calling them all at once (thus the pause in between each call for a blind to open/close). For the most part, this has helped tremendously with the IB2 motors, although they still had their fair share of problems, which is why I've been replacing them all this year.

              I call the reactions from rulesets, so I don't have to reinvent the wheel each time I want to perform an action on a window. It also allows me to make an adjustment once and not 10 different times in different rules.

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                @gwp1 ,

                I really don't have any sort of weekly config on mine. I haven't noticed mine drifting at all, but a weekly recalibrate wouldn't be a bad idea.

                I have rules for hourly refreshing the the cover, position, and switch positions that are now pretty much legacy of the old device class. I only have two of the IB2 devices left, and they're in non critical rooms ( guest bedroom and mudroom). I'll replace those later this year. Once those are gone, I'll be able to remove those three hourly rules.

                I have reactions set up for each set of windows in a room. Most rooms only have two windows, so I group those. The lone exception is my family room, where I have four windows, but on different walls. I have those set up on two separate reactions, which allows me to separately set the blinds to a partial open position when the sun is shining directly in. The largest events with the blinds are at sunrise, sunset, and when the house is vacant or someone arrives, when I'll set the reactions from the rule, and I have "Wait for completion" enabled after each call for a reaction. It takes a couple of minutes for all my blinds to open/close when it's called. I initially didn't do this, but iBlinds recommended not calling them all at once (thus the pause in between each call for a blind to open/close). For the most part, this has helped tremendously with the IB2 motors, although they still had their fair share of problems, which is why I've been replacing them all this year.

                I call the reactions from rulesets, so I don't have to reinvent the wheel each time I want to perform an action on a window. It also allows me to make an adjustment once and not 10 different times in different rules.

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                gwp1
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                @tamorgen we are very much aligned in our approach.

                • My office has four windows, one front-facing and three smaller side-facing. I group the three together.
                • My main room covers the single kitchen, single dining room, and two paired living room blinds.
                • My master bedroom has two paired together, the master bath a single that I do not group with the bedroom.
                • Guest rooms are single independents.

                I, too, do reactions for:

                • open (Day)
                • close (Evening/Night)
                • tilt (this is used for Away for all, also for "sun defer" as the sun moves around the house)

                I do reactions as well for the very same reason: single place to edit. I know @toggledbits will cringe but my "Open ALL" , "Tilt ALL", and "Close ALL" are reactions that contain the other room-specific reactions and are called by rulesets.

                I've increased my delays again back to 00:00:05 (was down to 00:00:02) just to see if that may help the initial issue that spawned this topic. I don't need to have all blinds close at once (sure, it would be cool) - it's still fun for guests when the actions start in the office at the front of the house and just file their way around until all are completed.

                *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                *HAOS
                Core 2026.1.1
                w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                FW: v1.1
                SDK: v7.23.1

                *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                MQTTController: 25139
                ZWave Controller: 25139

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                  @toggledbits we have fail!

                  Added two more iblinds to the test. They failed to respond so I isolated one of them and did the following tests on node 8-0:

                  LR Left OPEN: cover.open
                  LR Left CLOSE: cover.close
                  LR Left @20: position.set = .80 (resulting in the blind being tilted open 20%, "top inside").

                  Results:
                  cover.open = iblind opens, position of 50
                  cover.close = iblind moves to position of 50 <---expected result, position 0
                  position.set = iblind moves to position of 80

                  As this Reaction was to run BOTH left and right blinds I removed the right blind and ran the left solo as the kitchen and DR are (both still working fine, btw). For reference, Kitchen was existing unit and was re-interviewed to be current, DR is a brand new unit. LR's are existing units re-interviewed.

                  Log forthcoming.

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                  @gwp1 said in [SOLVED-ish] New iblind and zwaveJScontroller/MSR not communicating:

                  Log forthcoming.

                  Looked at the log. ZWaveJSController is consistently, correctly issuing the right commands and values for all actions in every case. ZWaveJS is responding with a successful acknowledgement of the command, and later passing an update notification with the node's position having a value consistent with the command previously given in every case. It appears that ZWaveJS understands what MSR is asking it to do, sending that to the device, and the device is sending back updates indicating it has done what has been asked. If that's not what the device actually does, then I assert it's firmware or hardware issue with the device.

                  The log contains errors for an attempt to refresh (using the zwave_device.refresh action) non-existent node 7 (that is, ZWaveJS reports that the node doesn't exist; the entity may still exist as a zombie). That has no effect operationally, just bringing to your attention that after excluding/including devices, you may have missed a now-dead entity.

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    @gwp1 said in [SOLVED-ish] New iblind and zwaveJScontroller/MSR not communicating:

                    Log forthcoming.

                    Looked at the log. ZWaveJSController is consistently, correctly issuing the right commands and values for all actions in every case. ZWaveJS is responding with a successful acknowledgement of the command, and later passing an update notification with the node's position having a value consistent with the command previously given in every case. It appears that ZWaveJS understands what MSR is asking it to do, sending that to the device, and the device is sending back updates indicating it has done what has been asked. If that's not what the device actually does, then I assert it's firmware or hardware issue with the device.

                    The log contains errors for an attempt to refresh (using the zwave_device.refresh action) non-existent node 7 (that is, ZWaveJS reports that the node doesn't exist; the entity may still exist as a zombie). That has no effect operationally, just bringing to your attention that after excluding/including devices, you may have missed a now-dead entity.

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                    @toggledbits Node 7-0 has cleaned itself up in MSR (it was cleared out in HA's ZWJSC). I got the same from the logs, was hoping you would see something I missed.

                    The firmware is on the latest. I'll doublecheck the firmware on the ZWave Stick that runs these from HA. Thanks @toggledbits, as usual.

                    Updating this thread to [SOLVED] as whatever the issue may be it's not MSR's.

                    *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                    *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                    *HAOS
                    Core 2026.1.1
                    w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                    FW: v1.1
                    SDK: v7.23.1

                    *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                    MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                    MQTTController: 25139
                    ZWave Controller: 25139

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                      A final update here... adding in a minimum of 00:00:05 delays has resolved the issues.

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                      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                      *HAOS
                      Core 2026.1.1
                      w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                      FW: v1.1
                      SDK: v7.23.1

                      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                      MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                      MQTTController: 25139
                      ZWave Controller: 25139

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