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[Solved] Local expression in Rule does not evaluate as they used to do
CrilleC
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Home Assistant 2025.11.2 and latest-25315
CrilleC
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Notice to Docker + ARM Users (RPi 3/4/5 and others)
toggledbitsT
This post does not apply to users of Intel/AMD-based systems. If you are using a Reactor image tagged latest-amd64 or stable-amd64, then this post does not apply to you. It also does not apply to bare-metal installs; it's for users of docker images on ARM-based systems only (principally Raspberry Pi hosts, but could be others). After January 15, 2026, I will no longer produce the aarch64-tagged docker image for Reactor. The ARM images will be arm64 for 64-bit operating systems, and armv7l for 32-bit operating systems. For those of you running a container from the aarch64 image today, this will be a relatively simple change: you just need to switch the image used for your docker container to a differently-tagged image. If you are using docker-compose, then this is a relatively simple matter of changing the image line in your docker-compose.yaml file and then stopping (docker-compose down) and restarting (docker-compose up -d) your Reactor daemon. But there's a catch... not all of you can safely just switch from the aarch64 image to the arm64 image. And, you can't just trust the output of uname -m, for example, because this exposes the CPU architecture, but not the word size of the OS running on that CPU. For Raspberry Pi systems, the transition to 64-bit operating systems was long (starting in 2016) and not always obvious — although there was a first "official" 64-bit OS for RPis in 2020, it did not become a default recommendation in the Raspberry Pi Imager until 2021, and then that was only the default for Pi 3/4 systems with >4GB RAM; it was 2022 before it was universally recommended for all 64-bit CPUs regardless of RAM size. Depending on when you first imaged your RPi system and what default you may have been offered/chosen, you could today easily have a 64-bit CPU Raspberry Pi running a 32-bit version of the operating system. Upgrades along the way would not change this; changing it to fully 64-bit requires a full reimage of the system. To establish if your OS is 64- or 32-bit, log in to your Pi and run: sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH. If the response is arm64 or aarch64, then you are running a 64-bit OS and you should use the arm64-tagged image. If it's anything else, you are running a 32-bit OS, and you should use the armv7l-tagged image. pi@rpi4-1:~ $ sudo dpkg-architecture -q DEB_HOST_ARCH armhf pi@rpi4-1:~ $ uname -m aarch64 pi@rpi4-1:~ $ In the example above, the uname command reports that the CPU is 64-bit architecture (aarch64), which is true for the host on which I ran these commands, but the DEB_HOST_ARCH value is armhf, indicating a 32-bit operating system. This system has to use the armv7l-tagged image. Other systems will have their own ways of determining the word size of the running OS. Since the majority of Reactor users running ARM systems are on Raspberry Pis, I am able to supply the above instructions, but if you happen to have a different ARM system, you'll need to do some web searching to figure out how to expose that information. Or, you can just try the arm64 image, and if it doesn't start up, try the armv7l image. Remember to always back up your system before making any changes. For everyone, please make this change as soon as possible, and if you have any trouble finding a working image, please (1) go back to the current aarch64 image; and (2) let me know in this thread along with as much detail about your host system as you can offer (including the output of the dpkg-architecture command mentioned above).
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Requesting a proper ARM64/aarch64 Docker image (Pi 5 support)
M
Hi, I'm in the process of migrating from a Raspberry Pi 4 (ARMv7) to a Raspberry Pi 5 (ARMv8/aarch64), but I’ve run into an issue: there is no proper ARMv8/aarch64 image available. None of the existing images run on the Pi 5 - they all exit immediately with code 139 (segmentation fault), which typically indicates that the binaries inside the image are not compatible with the ARM64/aarch64 architecture used by the Pi 5. Would it be possible to publish a correct ARMv8/aarch64 (linux/arm64) image? Building one should be relatively straightforward using docker buildx with multi-arch support. For example, my own Node.js images are built this way: docker buildx build --push \ -t <localrepo>/<project>:<tag> \ --platform=linux/arm64,linux/amd64 \ --file ./apps/<project>/Dockerfile . This produces both the AMD64 and ARM64/v8 variants automatically. Also, as a side note, it may be best to avoid using Alpine as the base image for the ARM64 build, since musl-based builds often cause compatibility issues and unnecessary headaches. A glibc-based base image (e.g., Debian or Ubuntu) tends to work far more reliably on ARM64, especially for Node.js applications. @toggledbits - tagging you in case you missed this. Thanks, mgvra
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Script action and custom timers
therealdbT
Sorry to write here without trying, but I’m flying today. Am I correct if i say that script action with alarm() makes it possible to execute a reaction in a given interval, lets say 15 seconds or 3.5 minutes? That sounds amazing, since I’ve used weird tricks, including a custom controller, just to do this.
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Help resolve change in behaviour post update
CatmanV2C
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Reactor w/HA 2025.11 error on set_datetime service call setting only time
CrilleC
@toggledbits Do you know if this is related to that PR or is it a change they made in 2025.11.1? [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.319Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag with { "time": "10:45" } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.320Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "date": (null), "time": "10:45", "datetime": (null), "timestamp": (null) }, "domain": "input_datetime", "service": "set_datetime", "target": { "entity_id": "input_datetime.vvb_dag" } } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass request 1762866984320<2025-11-11 14:16:24> (call_service) failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass action x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime({ "time": "10:45" }) on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_dag failed! [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.321Z <HassController:INFO> Service call payload: {"type":"call_service","service_data":{"date":null,"time":"10:45","datetime":null,"timestamp":null},"domain":"input_datetime","service":"set_datetime","target":{"entity_id":"input_datetime.vvb_dag"},"id":1762866984320} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <HassController:INFO> Service data: {"fields":{"date":{"example":"\"2019-04-20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"time":{"example":"\"05:04:20\"","selector":{"time":{}}},"datetime":{"example":"\"2019-04-20 05:04:20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"timestamp":{"selector":{"number":{"min":0,"max":9223372036854776000,"mode":"box","step":1}}}},"target":{"entity":[{"domain":["input_datetime"]}]}} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-mgb8pfhs:S step 0 perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 action args: { "time": "10:45" } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.322Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> (rule-mgb8pfhs:S) from step 1 [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.323Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt with { "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.323Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "date": (null), "time": "03:00", "datetime": (null), "timestamp": 0 }, "domain": "input_datetime", "service": "set_datetime", "target": { "entity_id": "input_datetime.vvb_natt" } } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass request 1762866984323<2025-11-11 14:16:24> (call_service) failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass action x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime({ "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 }) on Entity#hass>input_datetime_vvb_natt failed! [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:INFO> Service call payload: {"type":"call_service","service_data":{"date":null,"time":"03:00","datetime":null,"timestamp":0},"domain":"input_datetime","service":"set_datetime","target":{"entity_id":"input_datetime.vvb_natt"},"id":1762866984323} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <HassController:INFO> Service data: {"fields":{"date":{"example":"\"2019-04-20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"time":{"example":"\"05:04:20\"","selector":{"time":{}}},"datetime":{"example":"\"2019-04-20 05:04:20\"","selector":{"text":{"multiline":false,"multiple":false}}},"timestamp":{"selector":{"number":{"min":0,"max":9223372036854776000,"mode":"box","step":1}}}},"target":{"entity":[{"domain":["input_datetime"]}]}} [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-mgb8pfhs:S step 1 perform x_hass_input_datetime.set_datetime failed: [Error] Not a parseable type for dictionary value @ data['date'] [-] [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.324Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 action args: { "time": "03:00", "timestamp": 0 } [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.325Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> (rule-mgb8pfhs:S) from step 2 [latest-25310]2025-11-11T13:16:24.325Z <Engine:INFO> Sätt Schema VVB i Home Assistant<AKTIV> all actions completed.
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Reactor Version 25310 : Office Light control via rule in reactor no longer working since last update.
P
Hello, I currently have an office light (connected via a Leviton Zwave Dimmer switch) controlled from a Gen5 Aeotech Zwave switch installed on my Synology 720+ NAS. I run HA(2025.11.10) in a virtual machine from my NAS and Reactor on the container manager of the same NAS. Prior to updating to 25304 the rule I had set to turn the light on to a specific dimming value worked correctly. Now the rule appears to follow the decision tree, however the reaction does not trigger setting the dimming or turning on the office light? Strangely I can still turn the light on and off as well as dim it directly from HASS..? I have tried using the ''try this action'' button in the rules reaction setting and it will not control the light and does not throw an error flagÉ Please help, P.S Reactor has been rock steady for me over the last few years and I'm a big fan of this solution.
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[Solved] alarm() in global expression throws error in log.
CrilleC
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[Solved] Define function issue in latest-25304
CrilleC
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No Upgrade Notification for Build 25308?
CatmanV2C
FWIW I'm no longer getting a notification from MSR that there's an update. Just thought I'd mention it C
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Strange behavior in MSR latest-25304 with disabled groups in Reaction
therealdbT
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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
therealdbT
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The reaction stopped working (Google Nest max playing a video)
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Handling Dead Entities and Renamed Entities
PablaP
Hello all.. been a minute! I recently rebuilt my Z wave network and migrated to a new z wave stick. In order to prevent any downtime I kept my original z wave network up and ran a docker version of Z Wave JS UI with my new controller. This way I could add device by device without having any devices down. I finally moved all the devices over to my new stick today. The final step was to migrate everything from my Docker instance of Z Wave JS UI to the HA add-on of Z Wave JS UI. However during this migration some of the names didn't populate correctly which I later managed to import back into Z Wave JS UI. The issue was in Reactor it is stuck on the default names and the entities are not updating. I removed the controller from Reactor, restarted, hard refreshed, and added the controller back however the new entity names have not updated. Also it seems like the old entities from my previous instance of Z Wave JS UI are lingering and not being marked as dead (I believe a certain amount of time needs to lapse before they're marked as dead in Reactor). My goal is to basically purge all the entities for the 'ZWaveJS' controller in Reactor so it can pull all the updated entity names and only the entities that exist in Z Wave JS UI. I cannot find a quick way to do this, I know entities can be deleted one by one, but with over 100 entities this would take long I am guessing that if I added the controller with a new name in in the Reactor config it would pull the updated entities and names but I think that would break my rules since the entity IDs would change (I made sure to name all the entities the exact same as they were previously to prevent this issue).
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Strange behavior for MQTT templates using payload and attributes
therealdbT
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[MSR] reactor-mqtt-contrib package for additional MQTT templates
therealdbT
I'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only). Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package: https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go. I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them. The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression. Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests
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HA 2025.9.4 Supported Yet?
CatmanV2C
Tangentially did I miss 2025.9.4 getting blessed in MSR? I've been holding off Cheers C
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Rule Set UI bug - RESOLVED
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  • tunnusT tunnus

    @toggledbits can confirm that this new build (24133) fixes "delete problem", i.e. global reactions can now be deleted without them reappearing. Not seeing those "Reactor Log Panic" messages, but other errors:

    2024/05/13 18:51:08	stdout	    at async /opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:885:17
    2024/05/13 18:51:08	stdout	    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)
    2024/05/13 18:51:08	stdout	    at Rule._evaluate (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:943:69)
    2024/05/13 18:51:08	stdout	    at Timer.delayms (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Timer.js:151:132)
    2024/05/13 18:51:08	stdout	    at Timer.at (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Timer.js:147:381)
    2024/05/13 18:51:08	stdout	Error: Delay Source Traceback
    2024/05/13 18:51:08	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:51:08.837Z <Timer:CRIT> Error: Delay Source Traceback [-]
    2024/05/13 18:51:08	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:51:08.837Z <Timer:null> Timer#rule-ktmrcd6d just a note: I'm setting a delay of only 8ms (from 1715615468837<5/13/2024, 6:51:08 PM> to 1715615468845<5/13/2024, 6:51:08 PM>)
    2024/05/13 18:51:00	stdout	stream /var/reactor/logs/reactor.log not open boolean false
    2024/05/13 18:51:00	stdout	/var/reactor/logs/reactor.log size hit rotation limit, rotating
    2024/05/13 18:50:03	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:50:03.915Z <wsapi:CRIT> wsapi: client "172.18.0.1#5" sending authreq
    2024/05/13 18:50:02	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:50:02.092Z <wsapi:CRIT> wsapi: client "172.18.0.1#4" sending authreq
    2024/05/13 18:49:33	stdout	stream /var/reactor/logs/reactor.log not open boolean false
    2024/05/13 18:49:33	stdout	/var/reactor/logs/reactor.log size hit rotation limit, rotating
    2024/05/13 18:48:15	stdout	stream /var/reactor/logs/reactor.log not open boolean false
    2024/05/13 18:48:15	stdout	/var/reactor/logs/reactor.log size hit rotation limit, rotating
    2024/05/13 18:47:07	stdout	stream /var/reactor/logs/reactor.log not open boolean false
    2024/05/13 18:47:07	stdout	/var/reactor/logs/reactor.log size hit rotation limit, rotating
    2024/05/13 18:46:29	stdout	stream /var/reactor/logs/reactor.log not open boolean false
    2024/05/13 18:46:29	stdout	/var/reactor/logs/reactor.log size hit rotation limit, rotating
    2024/05/13 18:46:25	stdout	    at async /opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:885:17
    2024/05/13 18:46:25	stdout	    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)
    2024/05/13 18:46:25	stdout	    at Rule._evaluate (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:943:69)
    2024/05/13 18:46:25	stdout	    at Timer.delayms (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Timer.js:151:132)
    2024/05/13 18:46:25	stdout	    at Timer.at (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Timer.js:147:381)
    2024/05/13 18:46:25	stdout	Error: Delay Source Traceback
    2024/05/13 18:46:25	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:46:25.384Z <Timer:CRIT> Error: Delay Source Traceback [-]
    2024/05/13 18:46:25	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:46:25.384Z <Timer:null> Timer#rule-ktmrcd6d just a note: I'm setting a delay of only 8ms (from 1715615185384<5/13/2024, 6:46:25 PM> to 1715615185392<5/13/2024, 6:46:25 PM>)
    2024/05/13 18:45:10	stdout	stream /var/reactor/logs/reactor.log not open boolean false
    2024/05/13 18:45:10	stdout	/var/reactor/logs/reactor.log size hit rotation limit, rotating
    2024/05/13 18:44:15	stdout	    at async /opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:885:17
    2024/05/13 18:44:15	stdout	    at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)
    2024/05/13 18:44:15	stdout	    at Rule._evaluate (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:943:69)
    2024/05/13 18:44:15	stdout	    at Timer.delayms (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Timer.js:151:132)
    2024/05/13 18:44:15	stdout	    at Timer.at (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Timer.js:147:381)
    2024/05/13 18:44:15	stdout	Error: Delay Source Traceback
    2024/05/13 18:44:15	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:44:15.282Z <Timer:CRIT> Error: Delay Source Traceback [-]
    2024/05/13 18:44:15	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:44:15.281Z <Timer:null> Timer#rule-grp11myuubg just a note: I'm setting a delay of only 5ms (from 1715615055281<5/13/2024, 6:44:15 PM> to 1715615055286<5/13/2024, 6:44:15 PM>)
    2024/05/13 18:44:00	stdout	stream /var/reactor/logs/reactor.log not open boolean false
    2024/05/13 18:44:00	stdout	/var/reactor/logs/reactor.log size hit rotation limit, rotating
    2024/05/13 18:43:44	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:44.182Z <wsapi:CRIT> wsapi: client "172.18.0.1#3" sending authreq
    2024/05/13 18:43:36	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:36.850Z <wsapi:CRIT> wsapi: client "172.18.0.1#2" sending authreq
    2024/05/13 18:43:27	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:27.574Z <default:null> Module NotifyTelegram v21221
    2024/05/13 18:43:27	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:27.564Z <wsapi:CRIT> wsapi: client "172.18.0.1#1" sending authreq
    2024/05/13 18:43:27	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:27.293Z <Notifier:null> Module Notifier v22283
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.989Z <SystemController:null> Module SystemController v24076
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.980Z <OWMWeatherController:null> Module OWMWeatherController v22294
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.893Z <HubitatController:null> Module HubitatController v24076
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.830Z <HassController:null> Module HassController v24128
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.526Z <MQTTController:null> Module MQTTController v24120
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.488Z <VirtualEntityController:null> Module VirtualEntityController v24117
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.431Z <VeraController:null> Module VeraController v24050
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.431Z <TaskQueue:null> Module TaskQueue 24113
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.416Z <InfluxFeed:null> Module InfluxFeed v23341
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.312Z <wsapi:null> Module wsapi v24115
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.284Z <httpapi:null> Module httpapi v24121
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.275Z <Engine:null> Module Engine v24113
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.273Z <GlobalReaction:null> Module GlobalReaction v24099
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.268Z <Rule:null> Module Rule v24115
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.265Z <AlertManager:null> Module AlertManager v24099
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.259Z <Predicate:null> Module Predicate v23093
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.243Z <GlobalExpression:null> Module GlobalExpression v24099
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.232Z <default:null> Module Rulesets v24099
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.231Z <default:null> Module Ruleset v24099
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.219Z <Controller:null> Module Controller v24099
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.215Z <Entity:null> Module Entity v24108
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.208Z <TimerBroker:null> Module TimerBroker v22283
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.180Z <Plugin:null> Module Plugin v22300
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.115Z <Capabilities:null> Module Capabilities v23331
    2024/05/13 18:43:21	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:21.112Z <Structure:null> Module Structure v24110
    2024/05/13 18:43:20	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:20.999Z <app:null> Local date/time using configured timezone and locale formatting is "5/13/2024, 6:43:20 PM"
    2024/05/13 18:43:20	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:20.998Z <app:null> Loaded locale en-US for en-US
    2024/05/13 18:43:20	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:20.969Z <app:null> Configured locale (undefined); selected locale(s) en-US.UTF-8
    2024/05/13 18:43:20	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:20.966Z <app:null> Resolved timezone=Europe/Helsinki, environment TZ=Europe/Helsinki; offset minutes from UTC=180
    2024/05/13 18:43:20	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:20.814Z <app:null> NODE_PATH=/opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules
    2024/05/13 18:43:20	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:20.814Z <app:null> Basedir /opt/reactor; data in /var/reactor/storage
    2024/05/13 18:43:20	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:20.813Z <app:null> Process ID 1 user/group 0/0; docker; platform linux/x64 #69057 SMP Fri Jan 12 17:02:28 CST 2024; locale (undefined)
    2024/05/13 18:43:20	stdout	[userauth-24133]2024-05-13T15:43:20.770Z <app:null> Reactor build userauth-24133-a2bf8846 starting on v20.10.0 /usr/local/bin/node
    2024/05/13 18:43:20	stdout	NODE_PATH /opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules
    2024/05/13 18:43:20	stdout	Reactor userauth-24133-a2bf8846 app 24127 configuration from /var/reactor/config
    

    Also that manual/docs related problem ("initializing search") is still there, but that was expected as there were no mention of it being fixed.

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    @tunnus The log snippets you are posting appear to be from something other than the log files produced by Reactor. This looks like console log for a container, and I'm not interested in looking at that, mostly because they are a limited subset of message severity and, as I said earlier, drop a lot of other context is valuable to me in evaluating what I'm seeing. Reactor produces its own log files for a reason. If you want to post snippets from that, with context in accordance with the posting guidelines, I'm ready to look at those any time.

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      @tunnus The log snippets you are posting appear to be from something other than the log files produced by Reactor. This looks like console log for a container, and I'm not interested in looking at that, mostly because they are a limited subset of message severity and, as I said earlier, drop a lot of other context is valuable to me in evaluating what I'm seeing. Reactor produces its own log files for a reason. If you want to post snippets from that, with context in accordance with the posting guidelines, I'm ready to look at those any time.

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      @toggledbits ok, sorry about that snippet, it was indeed a console log for a container.

      I looked through reactor logs, but couldn't see any errors there. A bit challenging as there's a lot going on (a couple of variables update very often, every 1-3 seconds and those cause a lot of log events as rules referencing them get evaluated). Btw, there's a related request/question in this thread.

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        @tunnus If your specific concern is the Timer messages, don't be concerned. Long story shortened: these Timer objects were originally used for long intervals and the warning was put in place to help identify bugs in computing the length of those intervals, but they ended up being used for short intervals, too, and there are some conditions where those intervals can randomly be so short that they trigger the warning. I think it's time for this warning to be relegated to debug level or removed.

        You clearly have something that's logging a lot, and that's causing frequent log rotations. This not only wastes time/cycles and bytes on the disk, but it also makes debugging anything on your system harder for the reason you stated: you can't find the errors, likely because (a) it's logging too much (you're sipping from a firehose), and (b) it's rotating so frequently that you're losing useful data quickly.

        What I'd suggest is that you identify the affected rules (i.e. those that are responding to the frequent entity attribute changes), and increase their specific log levels to reduce the log output. You can do that for an individual rule. You need to get the rule ID, which you can derive from the UI by opening the rule's state in the list. You can also see it logged. Let's pick on rule-ktmrcd6d... we modify config/logging.yaml by adding the following:

          # The line below is indented two spaces; the line after is indented four spaces.
          "Rule#rule-ktmrcd6d":
            level: 3
        

        This puts the logging minimum level at "NOTICE", so all of the INFO messages associated with rule evaluation will be suppressed for that rule only (other rules will not be affected). That should considerably reduce your log traffic.

        I saw your question about the frequent updates as it relates to InfluxDB, and that's a sticky business. I'll respond to that over there.

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          @tunnus If your specific concern is the Timer messages, don't be concerned. Long story shortened: these Timer objects were originally used for long intervals and the warning was put in place to help identify bugs in computing the length of those intervals, but they ended up being used for short intervals, too, and there are some conditions where those intervals can randomly be so short that they trigger the warning. I think it's time for this warning to be relegated to debug level or removed.

          You clearly have something that's logging a lot, and that's causing frequent log rotations. This not only wastes time/cycles and bytes on the disk, but it also makes debugging anything on your system harder for the reason you stated: you can't find the errors, likely because (a) it's logging too much (you're sipping from a firehose), and (b) it's rotating so frequently that you're losing useful data quickly.

          What I'd suggest is that you identify the affected rules (i.e. those that are responding to the frequent entity attribute changes), and increase their specific log levels to reduce the log output. You can do that for an individual rule. You need to get the rule ID, which you can derive from the UI by opening the rule's state in the list. You can also see it logged. Let's pick on rule-ktmrcd6d... we modify config/logging.yaml by adding the following:

            # The line below is indented two spaces; the line after is indented four spaces.
            "Rule#rule-ktmrcd6d":
              level: 3
          

          This puts the logging minimum level at "NOTICE", so all of the INFO messages associated with rule evaluation will be suppressed for that rule only (other rules will not be affected). That should considerably reduce your log traffic.

          I saw your question about the frequent updates as it relates to InfluxDB, and that's a sticky business. I'll respond to that over there.

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            @tunnus If your specific concern is the Timer messages, don't be concerned. Long story shortened: these Timer objects were originally used for long intervals and the warning was put in place to help identify bugs in computing the length of those intervals, but they ended up being used for short intervals, too, and there are some conditions where those intervals can randomly be so short that they trigger the warning. I think it's time for this warning to be relegated to debug level or removed.

            You clearly have something that's logging a lot, and that's causing frequent log rotations. This not only wastes time/cycles and bytes on the disk, but it also makes debugging anything on your system harder for the reason you stated: you can't find the errors, likely because (a) it's logging too much (you're sipping from a firehose), and (b) it's rotating so frequently that you're losing useful data quickly.

            What I'd suggest is that you identify the affected rules (i.e. those that are responding to the frequent entity attribute changes), and increase their specific log levels to reduce the log output. You can do that for an individual rule. You need to get the rule ID, which you can derive from the UI by opening the rule's state in the list. You can also see it logged. Let's pick on rule-ktmrcd6d... we modify config/logging.yaml by adding the following:

              # The line below is indented two spaces; the line after is indented four spaces.
              "Rule#rule-ktmrcd6d":
                level: 3
            

            This puts the logging minimum level at "NOTICE", so all of the INFO messages associated with rule evaluation will be suppressed for that rule only (other rules will not be affected). That should considerably reduce your log traffic.

            I saw your question about the frequent updates as it relates to InfluxDB, and that's a sticky business. I'll respond to that over there.

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            @toggledbits thanks for the tip, now logging traffic is considerably slower (log rotation ca. 10 minutes)

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              userauth build 24137

              • Updated the documentation theme and its supporting plugins; improved the appearance of code snippets with syntax highlighting in most cases; add line highlighting in many code snippets to draw attention to certain elements or changes.
              • Dashboard: added new Thermostat type (supported by Level.updown layout) for capabilities hvac_heating_unit/hvac_cooling_unit. Evolving; further improvements coming.
              • VirtualEntityController: Support for time-series data collection and aggregation. See the docs). As of this build, not all aggregators have been tested.
              • Remove spurious debug warning about short timers.
              • Fix detection of local docs and handling of static HTML files in the local installation.
              • HassController: Bless Hass to 2024.5.3

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                userauth build 24137

                • Updated the documentation theme and its supporting plugins; improved the appearance of code snippets with syntax highlighting in most cases; add line highlighting in many code snippets to draw attention to certain elements or changes.
                • Dashboard: added new Thermostat type (supported by Level.updown layout) for capabilities hvac_heating_unit/hvac_cooling_unit. Evolving; further improvements coming.
                • VirtualEntityController: Support for time-series data collection and aggregation. See the docs). As of this build, not all aggregators have been tested.
                • Remove spurious debug warning about short timers.
                • Fix detection of local docs and handling of static HTML files in the local installation.
                • HassController: Bless Hass to 2024.5.3
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                @toggledbits thanks, can confirm that (local) manual is fixed now, no more "initializing search"

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                  @toggledbits I think the restart reactor button is down again. When I click it I'm pushed back to the user login screen and immediately login to see the Status screen loading normally... not showing Disconnected as it usually does as it restarts. Logs provided in Dropbox.

                  *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.149
                  *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                  *HASS 2025.11.1
                  w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                  *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                  MSR: latest-25310-dc2bb580
                  MQTTController: 25139
                  ZWave Controller: 25139

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                    Does it do that every time you use it?

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                      Does it do that every time you use it?

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                      @toggledbits Yessir.

                      *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.149
                      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                      *HASS 2025.11.1
                      w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                      MSR: latest-25310-dc2bb580
                      MQTTController: 25139
                      ZWave Controller: 25139

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                        OK. That's normal behavior if the login/session cookie expires or is no longer valid. And it's all browser-side, so the logs aren't of any value there. And it's working for me, so we may have to dig a little. Next time you are tempted to use the Restart button, just do a plain refresh on your browser and see (report) what happens.

                        Also, what browser are you using? And, please upload your users.yaml file (redact any plaintext passwords)

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                          OK. That's normal behavior if the login/session cookie expires or is no longer valid. And it's all browser-side, so the logs aren't of any value there. And it's working for me, so we may have to dig a little. Next time you are tempted to use the Restart button, just do a plain refresh on your browser and see (report) what happens.

                          Also, what browser are you using? And, please upload your users.yaml file (redact any plaintext passwords)

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                          @toggledbits Using Brave browser. Redacted users.yaml on it's way.

                          *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.149
                          *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                          *HASS 2025.11.1
                          w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                          *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                          MSR: latest-25310-dc2bb580
                          MQTTController: 25139
                          ZWave Controller: 25139

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                            Happens to me as well (Chrome + userauth-24137-57b41335 on Docker)

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                              If you just refresh the page instead of hitting the button, does it refresh, or go to the login page?

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                                If I refresh that Tools-page, it'll go to Status-page

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                                  #62

                                  userauth build 24143

                                  • Fixes something that might, perhaps, address the Restart button issue some people are having (and I cannot reproduce at all on any broser). Also adds some debug (browser side) that we might be able to access to figure it out if it persists.
                                  • Revamps the port determination. Some of you, particularly docker users, may find that your Reactor UI shifts to port 8554, and is actually the desired location for HTTPS service.
                                  • Updated a lot of docs, including developer docs for building controllers.

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                                    userauth build 24143

                                    • Fixes something that might, perhaps, address the Restart button issue some people are having (and I cannot reproduce at all on any broser). Also adds some debug (browser side) that we might be able to access to figure it out if it persists.
                                    • Revamps the port determination. Some of you, particularly docker users, may find that your Reactor UI shifts to port 8554, and is actually the desired location for HTTPS service.
                                    • Updated a lot of docs, including developer docs for building controllers.
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                                    @toggledbits Restart-button still does not work. Chrome:

                                    Screenshot 2024-05-23 at 21.24.45.png

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                                      That's ACL restriction. You probably need to give logged-in users permission to use the API, or at least, that particular API.

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                                        That's ACL restriction. You probably need to give logged-in users permission to use the API, or at least, that particular API.

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                                        @toggledbits here's my users.yaml: (how should I change that?)

                                        users:
                                          # This section defines your valid users. The format is:
                                          # username: password (one per line).
                                        
                                          admin: xxxxxxxx
                                          
                                        groups:
                                          admin:
                                            users:
                                              - admin
                                            applications: true  # special form allows access to ALL applications
                                            api:
                                              default: allow
                                        
                                        session:
                                          timeout: 43200  
                                          rolling: true  # activity extends timeout when true
                                        
                                        # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged.
                                        log_acls: true
                                        # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged.
                                        debug_acls: false
                                        
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                                          That's not up to date with current usage/structure. Refer to the users.yaml file that came in the dist-config directory, and the documentation for Access Control.

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