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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550

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    therealdb
    wrote last edited by therealdb
    #54

    @toggledbits I have a couple of routines (previously working OK) that are checking for various things based on the hour we're in.

    The variable code is like this one:

    d = dateparts(),
    (d.hour >= 20 && d.hour <= 23)
    

    I remember we've been told that this would not work in previous builds (but it did), but it's not really working now. It was false at 20 (the rule is triggered every 30 minutes when dark), and after I pressed play it went to true. I changed it with a script action and it's working now. But I'm reporting as an edge case, because I'm not sure it is supposed to work with the new behavior. Nothing else to report ATM. Thanks for the effort!

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      #55

      Build 25272 now up for docker 64-bit only once again. A good bit of cleanup again.

      @therealdb wrote:

      But I'm reporting as an edge case, because I'm not sure it is supposed to work with the new behavior.

      I'm keeping it this way (not working) for the moment, because it keeps it completely consistent with how Global variables work. But I see why you'd want to do what you did, and I think I can make it work... give me a day or two...

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        Build 25272 now up for docker 64-bit only once again. A good bit of cleanup again.

        @therealdb wrote:

        But I'm reporting as an edge case, because I'm not sure it is supposed to work with the new behavior.

        I'm keeping it this way (not working) for the moment, because it keeps it completely consistent with how Global variables work. But I see why you'd want to do what you did, and I think I can make it work... give me a day or two...

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        #56

        @toggledbits also using similar variables as @therealdb, so nice that there will be a "fix"

        prevHour = dateparts(time()).hour - 1
        currentHour = dateparts(time()).hour
        

        Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT

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          #57

          Testing build 25272, and although the following findings may not be specific to this build, I'm reporting via this thread.

          First, I noticed that if you have a long array in local expressions, UI is horizontally (over)stretched when viewing the rule (does not happen in edit mode). See below.

          Screenshot 2025-10-02 at 19.16.49.png

          Secondly (and this can be user error), I was experimenting with failure handling and got the following:

          The expression "isnull(blob?.data?.PriceWithTax) ? \"ERROR\" : blob.data.PriceWithTax" in variable "hourPriceBackup" of rule "Get prices" (rule-m0bb80xn) failed evaluation
          ReferenceError: Invalid scope in reference to member PriceWithTax of (number)0.10595
          Last 20:55:07; this alert has repeated 2 times.
          

          (PriceWithTax was intentionally left out from the response to cause error)

          And below the actual expression:

          Screenshot 2025-10-02 at 20.50.34.png

          What would be correct way to guard against this?

          Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT

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            The error here is that data isn't an object, so you can't dereference through it. If you look at your blob, you've set data to a number (0.10595), and the error is telling you that you can't dereference through a number like an object. The coalesce operator isn't going to apply here, because data is just the wrong type. I assert that your test case is broken and testing something you are never actually going to encounter in real life. Well-written APIs, for example, don't do things like this, at least, not without other clues (e.g. a type value in the response to tell you what kind of data is in data, so that you can easily know how to handle it).

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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              The error here is that data isn't an object, so you can't dereference through it. If you look at your blob, you've set data to a number (0.10595), and the error is telling you that you can't dereference through a number like an object. The coalesce operator isn't going to apply here, because data is just the wrong type. I assert that your test case is broken and testing something you are never actually going to encounter in real life. Well-written APIs, for example, don't do things like this, at least, not without other clues (e.g. a type value in the response to tell you what kind of data is in data, so that you can easily know how to handle it).

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              #59

              @toggledbits okay, maybe my test case wasn't the best possible... what about that UI issue (a long array)?

              Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT

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                @toggledbits okay, maybe my test case wasn't the best possible... what about that UI issue (a long array)?

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                @tunnus already fixed for next build. Thanks for reporting!

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  #61

                  Build 25278 now available, again docker 64-bit only, and only for the folks testing variables/expressions in this thread. Please read this for summary of behavior for global and rule-based variables in this build.

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    @toggledbits is alarm() a new thing? What's the best example to understand its use? IE: A global variable named christmas_time, that will be updated every hour/day with dateparts()? Thanks.

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                      @toggledbits is alarm() a new thing? What's the best example to understand its use? IE: A global variable named christmas_time, that will be updated every hour/day with dateparts()? Thanks.

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                      I think it's brilliant. My best example is to check if a getEntity() is not updated in X minutes by comparing time() with value.last_modified but if the entity isn't updated the expression will not evaluate because nothing changed.
                      I'm now using other entities like reactor_system.reactor_uptime for 1 minute interval checking but with the new alarm() I believe I can skip that and set any interval suitable for each expression.

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                        @toggledbits is alarm() a new thing? What's the best example to understand its use? IE: A global variable named christmas_time, that will be updated every hour/day with dateparts()? Thanks.

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                        @therealdb said in [Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550:

                        A global variable named christmas_time, that will be updated every hour/day with dateparts()?

                        Yes. alarm() will do that.

                        @Crille said in [Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550:

                        My best example is to check if a getEntity() is not updated in X minutes by comparing time() with value.last_modified but if the entity isn't updated the expression will not evaluate because nothing changed.

                        Clever! One side effect, though... getEntity() creates an entity dependency for the expression, so that when the entity changes, the expression is re-evaluated. When the expression is re-evaluated, the alarm() timer is not restarted if it is already running, the prior still-running timer is allowed to finish at its originally scheduled time. I'm guessing this may interfere with your intent — if you are using it to detect timeout, you probably want to push the clock out — but I can address that in the next build.

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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