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Is Telegram working?

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    Yesterday I converted all my rules to use the now inbuilt notify for Telegram, rather than sending Http requests out as I was.

    No further problems and everything seems to be working well.

    Thanks for adding Telegram support, I had previously requested it, but at that time it sounded like it would not be added.

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    Fanan
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    Hi!
    I've been trying to get Telegram to work, but I think it's something I'm doing wrong in the notification.yaml. It's working from within Home Assistent, but not with MSR. This is from my Notification.yaml:

      Telegram:
        profiles:
          default:
            # description - A friendly description of this profile (for menus)
            description: Telegram
            #
            # api_url - Access URL for Telegram API. Default is https://api.telegram.org
            api_url: https://api.telegram.org
            #
            # bot_token - (required) Bot Token, from Telegram. See: https://core.telegram.org/bots
            bot_token: "2091____________(blanked for security reason)____________wH2Z0"
            #
            # default_chat_id - (required) Default chat ID to use if not specified in message. See
            #                   this link for how to get chat ID:
            #                   https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32423837/telegram-bot-how-to-get-a-group-chat-id
            default_chat_id: "77________07"
            #
            # default_disable_notification - Default notification flag, may be either "true"
            #                                or "false". The system default is "false"
            #                                (false == notification enabled/not disabled).
            default_disable_notification: "false"
            #
            # default_parse_mode - Default message format/parse mode. The system default is
            #                      blank, for plain text. Other options: MarkdownV2, HTML
            #                      See: https://core.telegram.org/bots/api#formatting-options
            #default_parse_mode: ""
    

    I have tried both with and without qoutes " " around chat_id and bot_token. Am I missing something? I'm on MSR ver 21337. Thanks in advance.
    /Fanan

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      toggledbits
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      Telegram is working fine for me. Any chance you've looked at your logs?

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        Telegram is working fine for me. Any chance you've looked at your logs?

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        Fanan
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        @toggledbits This is my log (I changed my personal info):

        [latest-21342]2021-12-09T18:38:18.936Z <Engine:NOTICE> Resuming reaction Tända hos Khalisi<SET> (rule-kuvhc9mc:S) from step 1
        [latest-21342]2021-12-09T18:38:18.939Z <Engine:INFO> Tända hos Khalisi<SET> all actions completed.
        [latest-21342]2021-12-09T18:38:19.248Z <NotifyTelegram:ERR> NotifyTelegram failure response from endpoint: 400 Bad Request
        [latest-21342]2021-12-09T18:38:19.248Z <NotifyTelegram:INFO> NotifyTelegram request URL: https://api.telegram.org/bot2091333304:AXXpXQDQJ1L19xQoI1Gyc9i5XEH0uIwH2Z0/sendMessage
        [latest-21342]2021-12-09T18:38:19.249Z <NotifyTelegram:INFO> NotifyTelegram request body: {"text":"Hello!!","chat_id":"7777777","disable_notification":"false"}
        [latest-21342]2021-12-09T18:38:19.249Z <NotifyTelegram:ERR> NotifyTelegram request to https://api.telegram.org/bot2091550404:AXXXXQDQJ1L19xQoI1Gyc9i5XEH0uIwH2Z0/sendMessage failed: Error: NotifyTelegram request failed
        [latest-21342]2021-12-09T18:38:19.249Z <Engine:ERR> Engine#1 reaction rule-kuvhc9mc:S step 1 notification (Telegram) failed: Error: NotifyTelegram request failed
        [latest-21342]2021-12-09T18:38:19.250Z <NotifyTelegram:ERR> NotifyTelegram failure response text: {"ok":false,"error_code":400,"description":"Bad Request: chat not found"}
        
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          toggledbits
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          OK, you've found the issue.

          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            OK, you've found the issue.

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            WAIT, WAIT, CAN I TELL HIM??? CAN I, CAN I....??

            🙂

            *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.123
            *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

            *HASS 2025.9.4
            w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

            *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
            MSR: latest-25264-2fbe9217
            MQTTController: 25139
            ZWave Controller: 25139

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              Fanan
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              I feel like a total fool - but I don't get it... I know it's right in front of me, but I can't see the forest for the trees...

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                No worries. Just trying to teach fishing rather than just handing the fish over...

                The last line of your log snippet:

                [latest-21342]2021-12-09T18:38:19.250Z <NotifyTelegram:ERR> NotifyTelegram failure response text: {"ok":false,"error_code":400,"description":"Bad Request: chat not found"}
                

                It's not happy with the chat ID, it appears. That's a pretty specific message. Where did you get it? Have you verified it?

                Getting the chat ID can be a bit of work. Sometimes it's in the message you get when you set up in Bot Father, sometimes not. The config file template's comments give you some instructions and a link for how to get the chat ID.

                        #
                        # default_chat_id - (required) Default chat ID to use if not specified in message. See
                        #                   this link for how to get chat ID:
                        #                   https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32423837/telegram-bot-how-to-get-a-group-chat-id
                        default_chat_id: "123456789"
                

                At the very least, I'd go through this process and confirm. Watch the case on the ending of the URL that you're asked to fetch. If it's incorrect, the API will give you a bogus empty-ish response rather than an error, which can be frustrating to figure out.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  No worries. Just trying to teach fishing rather than just handing the fish over...

                  The last line of your log snippet:

                  [latest-21342]2021-12-09T18:38:19.250Z <NotifyTelegram:ERR> NotifyTelegram failure response text: {"ok":false,"error_code":400,"description":"Bad Request: chat not found"}
                  

                  It's not happy with the chat ID, it appears. That's a pretty specific message. Where did you get it? Have you verified it?

                  Getting the chat ID can be a bit of work. Sometimes it's in the message you get when you set up in Bot Father, sometimes not. The config file template's comments give you some instructions and a link for how to get the chat ID.

                          #
                          # default_chat_id - (required) Default chat ID to use if not specified in message. See
                          #                   this link for how to get chat ID:
                          #                   https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32423837/telegram-bot-how-to-get-a-group-chat-id
                          default_chat_id: "123456789"
                  

                  At the very least, I'd go through this process and confirm. Watch the case on the ending of the URL that you're asked to fetch. If it's incorrect, the API will give you a bogus empty-ish response rather than an error, which can be frustrating to figure out.

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                  @toggledbits Thank you for your patience!
                  After two hours of digging, google searching and some trial and errors, I finally found why it didn't work...
                  f5930c45-216e-4496-a030-88e4e0010ec5-image.png

                  It's easier if the reactor is activated... 🙂 It do not work even in the editing menu, as long as it's not activated. This is strange, since I can activate a specific entity/step to try it out. But that was not the case with the notify function. All of my tries have been in the editing menu with the reaction not activated. Now it's working perfectly, and so are my other notify services. Have a great weekend!

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                    Well, it depends on which "try" button you use. The Entity Action "try" button, on the same row as the entity action itself, will run any time. But the "Try Reaction" button in the reaction's header... no... that requires the rule to be enabled. And that fact is logged (attempting to run a reaction in a disabled rule), by the way, so again, careful review of the logs can be very helpful.

                    But... that resolution does not reconcile at all with the error message handed back from Telegram that you posted earlier. But if it's working for you now, I guess I won't go down that rabbit hole.

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      Well, it depends on which "try" button you use. The Entity Action "try" button, on the same row as the entity action itself, will run any time. But the "Try Reaction" button in the reaction's header... no... that requires the rule to be enabled. And that fact is logged (attempting to run a reaction in a disabled rule), by the way, so again, careful review of the logs can be very helpful.

                      But... that resolution does not reconcile at all with the error message handed back from Telegram that you posted earlier. But if it's working for you now, I guess I won't go down that rabbit hole.

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                      @toggledbits No, I guess we shouldn't spend any more time trying to understand. It works and I'm delighted. I do appreciate that you try to teach us fishing instead of handing the fish. I always try for hours before I ask for assistence. That's the way to learn and grow. Take care!

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