Z-wave serie 700 Europe/ Reactor/ Home Assistant
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Good afternoon. Due to the new ezlo not being available in europe yet, I wanted to change the z-wave getway that works with the reactor to add to the home assistant. What advises?
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@johnabruzzi04 Is this what you're looking for?
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1º- Z-Wave in Europe
2º- Serie 700
3º- Compatible Reactor
4º- Compatible Home Assistant Zwave JS -
@johnabruzzi04 Not sure if I understand your question, so this may not help. I have four connected z-wave devices to MSR;
- 1 Vera Edge
- 1 Vera Plus
- 1 Ezlo Plus
- 1 Aeotec Z-stick 7, connected to Home Assistent Blue.
The Z-stick 7 seems to be useful in your case. It's both connected to HA and MSR and support the 700-series and below. My Ezlo Plus is more for testing purpose. I'm in Europe (Sweden), and got it as a tester from Ezlo - but it's kind of worthless. Not because of it's spec, but for the software and UI. It's not supported in Home Assistent either, so it's crappy...
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@fanan hi,
I currently have vera secure, and I've had vera plus. the problem is that they are already discontinued, and the new ezlo, as I said, do not seem to me a solution. i like to use more than a getway because of the distances. there are some devices that do not work well over z-wave mesh network and I prefer direct connection of device to getway. Does the Z-stick 7, once configured, work with only one power supply? or do you always need an rpi?
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toggledbitswrote on Jan 7, 2022, 4:16 PM last edited by toggledbits Jan 7, 2022, 11:23 AM
- Reactor supports Home Assistant.
- Home Assistant supports Z-WaveJS.
- Z-WaveJS is "compatible with all known 500 and 700 series Z-Wave controller hardware adapters" (from their README)
That said, my personal feeling is that Home Assistant has the worst Z-Wave support of the controllers we normally talk about. As an example, any disruption of the connection between Home Assistant and Z-WaveJS causes the entire catalog of Z-Wave devices to be removed from Home Assistant, and when you fix the problem and they reappear, they have lost their assigned device names, and often have new and completely different Hass entity IDs. You can break the connection between them just by upgrading Home Assistant (whereupon Home Assistant declares that you need to upgrade Z-WaveJS or Z-WaveJS Server, and at that point, the damage is done). If you go this route, you must upgrade Z-WaveJS+server every time before applying any Home Assistant update. And even that's not always enough. Backups are your friend. Kein backup, kein Mitleid.
A lot of people are complimenting Hubitat on the quality and features of Hub Mesh, their ability to use several Hubitat Elevations together for improved device coverage and reduced load. Although Hubitat isn't perfect either, I can tell you I don't spend hours several times a year recovering from Hubitat firmware upgrades, where Hass upgrades are always a gamble as to how my day is going to go.
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senderreplied to toggledbits on Jan 7, 2022, 5:21 PM last edited by sender Jan 7, 2022, 12:22 PM
@toggledbits I believe this is only true when devices are paired to the stick directly. However this is strongly discouraged due to the problems you describe. Pairing via homeassistant integration (zwavejs - connected to either the native zwavjs addon or zwavejs2mqtt addon) will not scrumble the entity ids. It is on the roadmap to backup the zwave configuration of the stick natively via zwavejs/homeassistant. Now for an aeotec stick this can only be done via the windows software.
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I have just moved from Vera to Hubitat, and have not even gone near eZlo to avoid repeating past mistakes.
I am satisfied with Hubitat, despite a very difficult start, for 4 times I had to remove everything, and make the pairing to get to a distribution that the Mesh network of the Z-Wave can have good coverage in the house. The Radio antenna is much worse than the Vera, the advantage is to be able to put two units in the house working together and thus extending the coverage.
The wide support for devices, and the community helping to have a drive for almost everything, is a positive point.
Now I am disappointed with the loss of facilities such as the management of devices with problems that Vera somehow had and does not have in Hubitat. Also, Hubitat has a slow response time compared to MSR, recently Patrick has worked some miracles to alleviate the problem.
I had already thought about the z-stick options, but this Z-Stick > Home Assistant > Z-WaveJS > and finally MSR structure would be a catastrophe for a layman. Imagine that @toggledbits , who is a mega expert, would have problems with this synchronism, what would happen to us poor mortals.
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I must says, having homeassistant solely with 80 devices in zwavejs connected to an aeotec gen5+ has been rocksolid for very long! I even started with the former openzwave (beta) integration in homeassistant and had to rename all entities 1 time after migrating. Since then rocksolid and combined with node red a pleasure to automate...