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[Reactor] Bug when sending MQTT boolean payloads
therealdbT
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Difficulty defining repeating annual period
R
I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
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Need help with sequence
T
Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
PablaP
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Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
CatmanV2C
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Reset a delay
CatmanV2C
I'm sure this has been asked, and answered, but damned if I can figure it out Use case: I have a rear garden with lights. A door from the kitchen into the garden and a door from the garage. Currently if I open the kitchen door the lights come on (yay) and a 3 minute delay starts. After 3 minutes, no matter what else happens, the lights go off (Boo! But also yay!) What I would like is for the 3 minute delay until the lights go off to start from the latest door open event. That is, if I'm going from kitchen to garage, and back again, the lights stay on until there's three minutes of no activity. I've tried 'hacking' with a virtual switch, but can't seem to stop the delay. Any pointers? TIA C
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Reactor Loading Screen Safari
S
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Constraints states visually do not match actual
S
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[MSR] Feature request: For Each action on arrays/groups
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[Solved] Error: Command timeout
G
at _ClientAPI._commandTimeout (http://192.168.1.100:8111/client/ClientAPI.js:807:179 Seeing this randomly when returning to open browser tab after being away awhile. Once, maybe twice a day. "What did you do to trigger it?" Literally nothing, just walked away and returned and there it was. Actions taken in reasonably close proximity to this particular instance of it popping up: I'd restarted the MSR container in Portainer. I'll try to grab some logs here shortly.
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Issue with MSR UI becoming unresponsive
S
I'm having an issue with MSR's UI being very unresponsive. It started happening a couple days ago and I didn't make any changes that would have caused this except adding some meross lan devices in HA. When I go into an entity action and use the search functionality, it usually will start filtering and then get to a place after a few letters are entered where it will take 30 seconds or more (sometimes minutes) for the UI to show what I am typing. During this time MSR ui is completely unresponsive. I've tried multiple browsers and multiple computers. HA and MSR are both deployed in docker. I have run HTOP on the host and when the problem happens there are no CPU/Memory spikes at all. From a functionality standpoint MSR is working perfectly. This seems to be an UI issue only. Do i need to ditch Docker and run MSR on a Proxmox VM? I have both stand alone Docker and Proxmox environments. I dont mind doing that I just want to be able to use the UI again... Installation method Home Assistant Container Core 2025.7.3 Frontend 20250702.3 nothing crazy in the logs except some openweather map stuff that doesn't make any sense as it is working fine in MSR Any help would be greatly appreciated Reactor latest-25328-b2ed1365 app 25328 configuration from /var/reactor/config NODE_PATH /opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.843Z <app:null> Reactor build latest-25328-b2ed1365 starting on v24.11.1 /usr/local/bin/node [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> Process ID 1 user/group 0/0; docker; platform linux/x64 #161-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 22 14:25:40 UTC 2025; locale (undefined) [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> Basedir /opt/reactor; data in /var/reactor/storage [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.844Z <app:null> NODE_PATH=/opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.865Z <app:null> Resolved timezone=America/New_York, environment TZ=America/New_York; offset minutes from UTC=-300 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.867Z <default:null> Module i18n v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.867Z <app:null> Configured locale (undefined); selected locale(s) en-US.UTF-8 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.879Z <app:null> Loaded locale en-US for en-US [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.879Z <app:null> Local date/time using configured timezone and locale formatting is "11/30/2025, 3:01:53 PM" [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.889Z <Structure:null> Module Structure v25326 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.890Z <Capabilities:null> Module Capabilities v24312 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.904Z <Plugin:null> Module Plugin v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.923Z <Timer:null> Module Timer v25279 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.924Z <TimerBroker:null> Module TimerBroker v25314 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.927Z <Entity:null> Module Entity v25251 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.929Z <Controller:null> Module Controller v25253 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.930Z <AlertManager:null> Module AlertManager v25318 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.937Z <default:null> Module Ruleset v25283 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.937Z <default:null> Module Rulesets v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.942Z <GlobalExpression:null> Module GlobalExpression v25258 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.953Z <Predicate:null> Module Predicate v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.956Z <Rule:null> Module Rule v25323 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.958Z <GlobalReaction:null> Module GlobalReaction v25292 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.959Z <Engine:null> Module Engine v25325 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.964Z <httpapi:null> Module httpapi v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.972Z <wsapi:null> Module wsapi v25328 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.994Z <TaskQueue:null> Module TaskQueue 24138 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:53.994Z <VeraController:null> Module VeraController v25141 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:01:54.179Z <HassController:null> Module HassController v25325 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.797Z <OWMWeatherController:null> Module OWMWeatherController v25268 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.800Z <SystemController:null> Module SystemController v25323 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:13.807Z <MQTTController:null> Module MQTTController v22092 [latest-25328]2025-11-30T20:02:20.630Z <OWMWeatherController:CRIT> FetchError: request to https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather?lat=xxxxxxxxxx&lon=-xxxxxxxxx&appid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&units=standard&_r=1xxxxxxxxxxxxxxfailed, reason: [-] FetchError: request to https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather?lat=xxxxxxxxxxx&lon=-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&appid=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&units=standard&_r=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxfailed, reason: at ClientRequest.<anonymous> (/opt/reactor/node_modules/node-fetch/lib/index.js:1501:11) at ClientRequest.emit (node:events:508:28) at ClientRequest.emit (node:domain:489:12) at emitErrorEvent (node:_http_client:108:11) at TLSSocket.socketErrorListener (node:_http_client:575:5) at TLSSocket.emit (node:events:508:28) at TLSSocket.emit (node:domain:489:12) at emitErrorNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:170:8) at emitErrorCloseNT (node:internal/streams/destroy:129:3) at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:89:21
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Date/time condition
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Device log?
G
@toggledbits is there a log that will show me what rule is turning on a specific device? I've got a switch that has been kicking on at 2200 ET for several nights now and the reactor.log doesn't have a thing in it that I can see on a device level (it being more rules-based).
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Midnight crossing not working in date/time condition (build 25325)
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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[Solved] Local expression in Rule does not evaluate as they used to do
CrilleC
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Home Assistant 2025.11.2 and latest-25315
CrilleC
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  • CatmanV2C Online
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    CatmanV2
    wrote on last edited by CatmanV2
    #18

    Trying to follow the posting guidelines.....

      - id: mqqt
        enabled: true
        implementation: MQTTController
        name: Mosquito
        config:
          source: "mqtt://192.168.70.249:8883/"
          username: xxxxx 
          password: xxxxx
          entities:
            catman_iphone:
              name: "Catman Phone"
              topic: FFCEB043-B975-490E-B051-198473F6A504
              uses_template: owntracks_in_region
    

    Claims to be valid YAML in https://yamlchecker.com/

    But when I add the last 4 lines to my reactor.yaml msr will not start:

    Reactor log stops:

    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.316Z <Engine:NOTICE> [Engine]Engine#1 has shut down.
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.316Z <app:NOTICE> Closing Structure...
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.317Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 Stopping controllers...
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.317Z <VeraController:NOTICE> VeraController#vera stopping
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.321Z <VeraController:ERR> Controller VeraController#vera is off-line!
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.366Z <MQTTController:NOTICE> MQTTController#mqqt stopping, sending LWT
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.366Z <DynamicGroupController:NOTICE> DynamicGroupController#groups stopping
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.369Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> Controller DynamicGroupController#groups is off-line!
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.369Z <SystemController:NOTICE> SystemController#reactor_system stopping
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.371Z <SystemController:ERR> Controller SystemController#reactor_system is off-line!
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.372Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 Final data sync...
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.379Z <Structure:NOTICE> Structure Structure#1 stopped
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.379Z <app:NOTICE> Stopping timers...
    [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.380Z <app:NOTICE> Shutdown complete, process ID 27723
    

    As soon as I replace the original version of reactor.yaml

      - id: mqqt
        enabled: true
        implementation: MQTTController
        name: Mosquito
        config:
          source: "mqtt://192.168.70.249:8883/"
          username: xxxx 
          password: xxxx
    

    Everything springs to life.

    I can't see an error in my syntax. Do I need to have the region in there (although I've tried both with and without)

    It's going to be something obvious / stupid but hopefully I'm learning at least a little

    TIA

    C

    The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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    • CatmanV2C CatmanV2

      Trying to follow the posting guidelines.....

        - id: mqqt
          enabled: true
          implementation: MQTTController
          name: Mosquito
          config:
            source: "mqtt://192.168.70.249:8883/"
            username: xxxxx 
            password: xxxxx
            entities:
              catman_iphone:
                name: "Catman Phone"
                topic: FFCEB043-B975-490E-B051-198473F6A504
                uses_template: owntracks_in_region
      

      Claims to be valid YAML in https://yamlchecker.com/

      But when I add the last 4 lines to my reactor.yaml msr will not start:

      Reactor log stops:

      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.316Z <Engine:NOTICE> [Engine]Engine#1 has shut down.
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.316Z <app:NOTICE> Closing Structure...
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.317Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 Stopping controllers...
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.317Z <VeraController:NOTICE> VeraController#vera stopping
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.321Z <VeraController:ERR> Controller VeraController#vera is off-line!
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.366Z <MQTTController:NOTICE> MQTTController#mqqt stopping, sending LWT
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.366Z <DynamicGroupController:NOTICE> DynamicGroupController#groups stopping
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.369Z <DynamicGroupController:ERR> Controller DynamicGroupController#groups is off-line!
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.369Z <SystemController:NOTICE> SystemController#reactor_system stopping
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.371Z <SystemController:ERR> Controller SystemController#reactor_system is off-line!
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.372Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 Final data sync...
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.379Z <Structure:NOTICE> Structure Structure#1 stopped
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.379Z <app:NOTICE> Stopping timers...
      [latest-22274]2022-10-08T17:32:39.380Z <app:NOTICE> Shutdown complete, process ID 27723
      

      As soon as I replace the original version of reactor.yaml

        - id: mqqt
          enabled: true
          implementation: MQTTController
          name: Mosquito
          config:
            source: "mqtt://192.168.70.249:8883/"
            username: xxxx 
            password: xxxx
      

      Everything springs to life.

      I can't see an error in my syntax. Do I need to have the region in there (although I've tried both with and without)

      It's going to be something obvious / stupid but hopefully I'm learning at least a little

      TIA

      C

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      therealdb
      wrote on last edited by
      #19

      @catmanv2 the logs are not complaining, so maybe the error was written before.

      values are escaped with " in the docs, give it a try (ie: "catman_iphone" and topic: "FFCEB043-B975-490E-B051-198473F6A504")

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      • CatmanV2C Online
        CatmanV2C Online
        CatmanV2
        wrote on last edited by
        #20

        Thanks

        Tried

          entities:
                catman_iphone:
                  name: "Catman Phone"
                  topic: "FFCEB043-B975-490E-B051-198473F6A504"
                  uses_template: owntracks_in_region
                  regionName: Home
        

        and

          entities:
                "catman_iphone":
                  name: "Catman Phone"
                  topic: "FFCEB043-B975-490E-B051-198473F6A504"
                  uses_template: owntracks_in_region
                  regionName: Home
        

        With no discernible difference

        C

        The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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        • CatmanV2C CatmanV2

          Thanks

          Tried

            entities:
                  catman_iphone:
                    name: "Catman Phone"
                    topic: "FFCEB043-B975-490E-B051-198473F6A504"
                    uses_template: owntracks_in_region
                    regionName: Home
          

          and

            entities:
                  "catman_iphone":
                    name: "Catman Phone"
                    topic: "FFCEB043-B975-490E-B051-198473F6A504"
                    uses_template: owntracks_in_region
                    regionName: Home
          

          With no discernible difference

          C

          toggledbitsT Online
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          toggledbits
          wrote on last edited by
          #21

          @catmanv2 Topics for me are not UUIDs, but rather the content of the Device ID field in the Identification section of the configuration. This is a value you set, not a value determined by OwnTracks. That's Android. I no longer have an Apple device I can use for this.

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                  owntracks_patrick_home_template:
                    name: "Patrick Home Template"
                    uses_template: owntracks_in_region
                    topic: phrs21
                    regionName: Home
          

          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          • MikeReadingtonM Offline
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            MikeReadington
            wrote on last edited by
            #22

            Thanks for all of the input.

            For whatever reason I am having the same spotty relationship with OwnTracks that @CatmanV2 has. One minute I think it's solved, the next minute it's missed a trigger.

            With the success others have had, including @gwp1 with the same method of deployment, I must have something wrong. I'll keep working on it as time permits.

            Thanks again

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            • MikeReadingtonM MikeReadington

              Thanks for all of the input.

              For whatever reason I am having the same spotty relationship with OwnTracks that @CatmanV2 has. One minute I think it's solved, the next minute it's missed a trigger.

              With the success others have had, including @gwp1 with the same method of deployment, I must have something wrong. I'll keep working on it as time permits.

              Thanks again

              CatmanV2C Online
              CatmanV2C Online
              CatmanV2
              wrote on last edited by
              #23

              @mikereadington iPhone or Android?

              C

              The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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              • CatmanV2C CatmanV2

                @mikereadington iPhone or Android?

                C

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                MikeReadington
                wrote on last edited by
                #24

                @catmanv2 iPhone. I just returned home and it got a location trigger, but it was far from an instant trigger. The phone was in sleep for at least 30 minutes before I crossed the perimeter, and I would say the delay was in the area of 45 seconds.

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                • CatmanV2C Online
                  CatmanV2C Online
                  CatmanV2
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #25

                  45 seconds I can live with, personally but might not be right for your use case. (My fence is about 5km out)

                  The thing I'm struggling with right now is testing it. I think I need to cross the fence. Logically I make the region much smaller for testing purposes but other issues at work today.

                  C

                  The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                  • CatmanV2C CatmanV2

                    45 seconds I can live with, personally but might not be right for your use case. (My fence is about 5km out)

                    The thing I'm struggling with right now is testing it. I think I need to cross the fence. Logically I make the region much smaller for testing purposes but other issues at work today.

                    C

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                    gwp1
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #26

                    @catmanv2 testing OwnTracks can be accomplished by changing from substantial to move in the app and then, well, moving.

                    *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.173
                    *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                    *HASS 2025.12.4, Core 2025.12.3
                    w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                    FW: v1.1
                    SDK: v7.23.1

                    *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                    MSR: latest-25328-b2ed1365
                    MQTTController: 25139
                    ZWave Controller: 25139

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                    • G gwp1

                      @catmanv2 testing OwnTracks can be accomplished by changing from substantial to move in the app and then, well, moving.

                      CatmanV2C Online
                      CatmanV2C Online
                      CatmanV2
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #27

                      @gwp1 said in iPhone location or alternative.:

                      @catmanv2 testing OwnTracks can be accomplished by changing from substantial to move in the app and then, well, moving.

                      Thanks, I can see the data arriving from Owntracks in Mosquitto (if you hit publish, for example) but what I can't do is get the MQQT entity to have anything but 'null' as its primary value. I can see MQQT is publishing to reactor as well, so confidence is reasonably high....

                      My "logic" is that MSR is looking for the 'Enter' or 'Leave' payload which you only get when you transition into / out of a region.

                      I was expecting to go somewhere today but the optician was ill and I've been tied up on calls and meetings all day so not had a chance to set a small region and wander up the road.

                      Of course my logic could be utterly wrong, but wanted to test it before asking for more help.

                      Because then I can save what little credibility I have and use it asking for help as to why the second phone (Mrs C's) doesn't have primary value. I found an error in the logs though which I'll dig at later

                      Cheers

                      C

                      The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                      • CatmanV2C CatmanV2

                        45 seconds I can live with, personally but might not be right for your use case. (My fence is about 5km out)

                        The thing I'm struggling with right now is testing it. I think I need to cross the fence. Logically I make the region much smaller for testing purposes but other issues at work today.

                        C

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                        MikeReadington
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #28

                        @catmanv2 Yeah, my use case is a little more particular. I don't have an issue with never getting notification changes, they are just more delayed than I would like. I think once you get MQTT and MSR talking a 5km is going be more than relievable enough.

                        I had iPhone locator poll/force location refresh when I came in my driveway and triggered the magnetic sensor. I needed the location to be accurate and updated by the time I reached either my house or my building on property. The driveway is about 300m long as the crow flies for region radius purposes, and traversal to either location is much less than 45 seconds.

                        For what it is worth, I do see instant (and I mean instant instant) location changes like @therealdb and @gwp1 reported when the app is open or recently accessed. The delay seems to come from the app being backgrounded and the phone idle for a long period.

                        @gwp1 with HASS iCloud3, can you remote request a location refresh of the phone? Meaning, could I have polling suspended until I ask for an update? I think I could get exactly what I am looking for with a combination of the two and some MSR logic.

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                        • MikeReadingtonM MikeReadington

                          @catmanv2 Yeah, my use case is a little more particular. I don't have an issue with never getting notification changes, they are just more delayed than I would like. I think once you get MQTT and MSR talking a 5km is going be more than relievable enough.

                          I had iPhone locator poll/force location refresh when I came in my driveway and triggered the magnetic sensor. I needed the location to be accurate and updated by the time I reached either my house or my building on property. The driveway is about 300m long as the crow flies for region radius purposes, and traversal to either location is much less than 45 seconds.

                          For what it is worth, I do see instant (and I mean instant instant) location changes like @therealdb and @gwp1 reported when the app is open or recently accessed. The delay seems to come from the app being backgrounded and the phone idle for a long period.

                          @gwp1 with HASS iCloud3, can you remote request a location refresh of the phone? Meaning, could I have polling suspended until I ask for an update? I think I could get exactly what I am looking for with a combination of the two and some MSR logic.

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                          @mikereadington said in iPhone location or alternative.:

                          I had iPhone locator poll/force location refresh when I came in my driveway and triggered the magnetic sensor. I needed the location to be accurate and updated by the time I reached either my house or my building on property. The driveway is about 300m long as the crow flies for region radius purposes, and traversal to either location is much less than 45 seconds.

                          Given my thermostat has a 5 minute update. 45 seconds is just dandy.

                          The lights and so on are never going to be an issue.

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                            @catmanv2 Yeah, my use case is a little more particular. I don't have an issue with never getting notification changes, they are just more delayed than I would like. I think once you get MQTT and MSR talking a 5km is going be more than relievable enough.

                            I had iPhone locator poll/force location refresh when I came in my driveway and triggered the magnetic sensor. I needed the location to be accurate and updated by the time I reached either my house or my building on property. The driveway is about 300m long as the crow flies for region radius purposes, and traversal to either location is much less than 45 seconds.

                            For what it is worth, I do see instant (and I mean instant instant) location changes like @therealdb and @gwp1 reported when the app is open or recently accessed. The delay seems to come from the app being backgrounded and the phone idle for a long period.

                            @gwp1 with HASS iCloud3, can you remote request a location refresh of the phone? Meaning, could I have polling suspended until I ask for an update? I think I could get exactly what I am looking for with a combination of the two and some MSR logic.

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                            @mikereadington not an issue for me and my wife. Both set to significant, and I rarely open the app and I can say my wife is never opening it.

                            I’ll soon add beacons to my cars/motorcycle because home assistant has btle relay and I’ll go with esphome. It’s capable of moving btle messages to the central location and update corresponding device. Maybe it’s achievable for you too. My use case is to open/close my car gate automatically, but my driveway is short and I can place the gateway inside the house.

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                              @mikereadington not an issue for me and my wife. Both set to significant, and I rarely open the app and I can say my wife is never opening it.

                              I’ll soon add beacons to my cars/motorcycle because home assistant has btle relay and I’ll go with esphome. It’s capable of moving btle messages to the central location and update corresponding device. Maybe it’s achievable for you too. My use case is to open/close my car gate automatically, but my driveway is short and I can place the gateway inside the house.

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                              @therealdb wow, that is what I was just looking at beacons. Looks promising if they are reliable.

                              I don't have gates, but I would not mind a few automated defensive turrets.

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                                @therealdb wow, that is what I was just looking at beacons. Looks promising if they are reliable.

                                I don't have gates, but I would not mind a few automated defensive turrets.

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                                @mikereadington I tried beacons; was not successful.

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                                  The issue with IPhoneLocator happened to me a few months ago. @amg0 was away on vacation, and did comment that Apple may have changed the API, and it wasn’t well documented. A few days later, it started working again.

                                  The geofencing issues in Vera, along with Ezlo’s lack of geofencing, pushed me over the edge with Vera/Ezlo. I moved over to Home Assistant a few weeks ago, along with MSR, and overall it’s been much more stable. I’m also just using Home Assistant’s built in geofencing, and it’s working well.

                                  I still have Vera running, as I’m not 100% migrated, but I’m close.

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                                    Not sure if @gwp1 was trying the new support in HASS, but I'm leaning a link anyway https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/ibeacon

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                                      So I now have two phones that appear to be working just fine in terms of the Owntracks notifications. Clearly it's early days but I wonder if some of the issues that I have perceived are that although Owntracks is reporting to MQQT almost instantly, the screen notifications are not...

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                                        Not sure if @gwp1 was trying the new support in HASS, but I'm leaning a link anyway https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/ibeacon

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                                        @therealdb I was not - I will look into this.

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                                          I may have spoken too soon. Mrs C's phone still claims to not be home. I suspect a config error on the phone however given it triggered correctly when she left the region

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                                          I managed to pry her phone away and check the settings. Her region had vanished. I've seen this once on mine and assumed it was because we had the same RegionName (hence mine being Home2) but clearly not.

                                          Having re-created the region and published, the entity changed state as expected.

                                          The region was clearly there when she exited this morning (as the entity changed from 'null' to 'false') so this will need to be watched.

                                          Maybe it's just 'Home' it does not like as a region name <shrug>

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