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Can you run MSR on Home Assistant OS ?
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Looking at using Home Assistant for the first time, either on a Home Assistant Green, their own hardware or buying a cheap second hand mini PC. Sounds like Home Assistant OS is linux based using Docker for HA etc. Would I also be able to install things like MSR as well on their OS ? On the same box? Thanks.
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How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
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This trigger no longer working - complaining about the operator needing changing
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Self test
CatmanV2C
Having been messing around with some stuff I worked a way to self trigger some tests that I wanted to do on the HA <> MSR integration This got me wondering if there's an entity that changes state / is exposed when a configured controller goes off line? I can't see one but thought it might be hidden or something? Cheers C
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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
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Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
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TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Need help with sequence
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Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
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Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
CatmanV2C
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How to shutdown a Windows 10 PC ?

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    #10

    OK turns out it's comparatively trivial to do it from Linux (was pretty sure it was. So you should be able to execute this. Bit of a faff for set up but...

    Shutdown Windows machine from linux terminal

    Shutdown Windows machine from linux terminal

    I am running an application on linux machine. By giving the ip address of a windows machine as input, the application must shutdown the windows machine. If the machines run the same OS it is very e...

    Actually reading further, looks like there's some simpler options installing Cygwin or an SSH server and just SSHing in

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      OK thanks I will take a read and report back.

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        #12

        I updated this PC to Windows 11 and installed OpenSSH Server on it. I was then able to login to it directly via Putty on my other Windows 10 laptop, I was prompted for the username and password and I could then issue a shutdown /p command and it did then shutdown the Mini-PC.

        I then tried to add my Vera Plus public key on to the Windows 11 PC so that Vera can ssh directly to it with no username and password prompt etc. However its not working I get this error every time.

        ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 host key mismatch for 192.168.1.47 !

        192.168.1.47 being the Windows 11 OpenSSH Server

        I created an authorized_keys file on the Windows 11 PC in this location:

        C:\Users\myusername\.ssh

        And in the authorised_keys file I pasted in the Vera Plus pubic key.

        I also followed the instructions on this article here to enable "Public key authentication" on the OpenSSH Server on the Windows 11 PC.

        Then reading this Microsoft article it suggested if my windows user is in the administrators group I need to instead create a administrators_authorized_keys file in C:\ProgramData\ssh\

        So I tried that but I still get the host key mismatch error when I connect to the Vera Plus via putty and then tried to ssh to the Windows 11 PC.

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          #13

          I think you need your public key stored on the Vera. Or possibly a public key that matches the username you're using.

          There's also an sshd-copy-id command which I found way more reliable than trying to edit authorised keys files. I'd probably use that, then rename the file if needed.

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            #14

            If the Windows PC was previously known to the Vera before your upgrade, it's likely that the SSH key was regenerated on the Windows PC side when you did the upgrade, so the Vera SSH has the old host key. You can remove it from the known_hosts file on the Vera side.

            That may not be the only problem you run into, though. Of late, many newer SSH clients have removed weaker host key algorithms and key exchange algorithms, so connecting to the ancient, rotting carcasses of these old Veras presents the SSH peer with a set of options it doesn't want to use, and the key exchange fails. That's a bit more complicated to fix...

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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              I think you need your public key stored on the Vera. Or possibly a public key that matches the username you're using.

              There's also an sshd-copy-id command which I found way more reliable than trying to edit authorised keys files. I'd probably use that, then rename the file if needed.

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              @catmanv2

              I always struggle with this type of stuff. Patrick helped me in the past on this Vera forum thread here.

              On that old post I wanted my Vera Plus to be able to ssh into my Raspberry Pi with no password prompt.

              I could then create MSR rules that instruct Vera to run a command like this to say reboot the Raspberry Pi etc.

              os.execute("ssh pi@192.168.1.101 sudo reboot")

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                If the Windows PC was previously known to the Vera before your upgrade, it's likely that the SSH key was regenerated on the Windows PC side when you did the upgrade, so the Vera SSH has the old host key. You can remove it from the known_hosts file on the Vera side.

                That may not be the only problem you run into, though. Of late, many newer SSH clients have removed weaker host key algorithms and key exchange algorithms, so connecting to the ancient, rotting carcasses of these old Veras presents the SSH peer with a set of options it doesn't want to use, and the key exchange fails. That's a bit more complicated to fix...

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                @toggledbits said in How to shutdown a Windows 10 PC ?:

                If the Windows PC was previously known to the Vera before your upgrade, it's likely that the SSH key was regenerated on the Windows PC side when you did the upgrade, so the Vera SSH has the old host key. You can remove it from the known_hosts file on the Vera side.

                The Mini-PC was not known to the Vera before. I updated to Windows 11 and then install OpenSSH on the Windows 11 PC.

                Before that I did nothing with Vera and the Mini-PC running Windows.

                Oh I think I see what might be happening now. Looking in the known_hosts I already have an entry for the static LAN IP address of the Mini-PC but that is for Linux Debian on the Mini-PC.

                Before when I was messing about with Ezlo Softhub I setup a dual boot on the Mini-PC for Windows 10 and Debian Linux.

                Guess I can't have two known hosts for the same IP address but different OS's.

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                  Well the keys won't match so no. Edit known-hosts on the Vera and delete the entry for that IP

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                    OK let me try that then.

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                      Its working now !

                      In Putty connected to my Vera Plus I ran a shutdown command to the Windows 11 PC it then said:

                      Host '192.168.1.47' is not in the trusted hosts file.

                      I hit Y to continue and Vera has just shutdown the Windows 11 Mini-PC via SSH.

                      Thanks.

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                        OK just setup the rest of my MSR rule now with a Reset reaction, that gets the Vera Plus to run a LUA / os.execute shutdown command sent to the Windows 11 PC.

                        So now when I start my Logitech Harmony activity for the Windows Games PC, MSR triggers the rule and gets Vera to send a WOL packet to the PC to wake it up.

                        And when I end the Harmony activity the reset reaction in the MSR rule gets Vera to shutdown the PC.

                        I even managed to get my Harmony Elite remote to launch RetroArch or Steam via buttons on the LCD screen and I also added a ALT+F4 button to exit the Windows apps.

                        Next thing to figure out is how to split out the HDMI audio to a pair of PC speakers.

                        Thanks.

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                          Neat!

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