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DynamicGroupController and attributes
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Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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Reactor Version 25310 : Office Light control via rule in reactor no longer working since last update.

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    toggledbits
    wrote on last edited by toggledbits
    #8

    I need to see device attributes for those devices (from the Entities list -- use Copy Attributes and paste as fenced code block, no screenshots please). Also would be helpful to see the hass_states.json and hass_services.json from the logs directory, but these are larger. If any of you are willing to upload them, let me know and I will provide you a link.

    Edit: it looks like HA 2025.11.0 breaks the homeassistant domain commands (turn_on, turn_off). I'm digging more into that, to see if it's a change to their required parameter structure, or just brokeness, but HA does not reply with an error when those services are attempted, and that's usually what happens when parameters/service definition changes.

    Edit 2: ...and a little more info. The service data published by the API in 2025.11.0 now omits the target data detail. That's odd. Maybe they are assuming that when target data is empty, just supply an entity? I need to dig through the release notes. But, easy to work around.

    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      I need to see device attributes for those devices (from the Entities list -- use Copy Attributes and paste as fenced code block, no screenshots please). Also would be helpful to see the hass_states.json and hass_services.json from the logs directory, but these are larger. If any of you are willing to upload them, let me know and I will provide you a link.

      Edit: it looks like HA 2025.11.0 breaks the homeassistant domain commands (turn_on, turn_off). I'm digging more into that, to see if it's a change to their required parameter structure, or just brokeness, but HA does not reply with an error when those services are attempted, and that's usually what happens when parameters/service definition changes.

      Edit 2: ...and a little more info. The service data published by the API in 2025.11.0 now omits the target data detail. That's odd. Maybe they are assuming that when target data is empty, just supply an entity? I need to dig through the release notes. But, easy to work around.

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      gwp1
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      #9

      @toggledbits I was able to grab this between meetings lol

      dimming.maximum=1
      dimming.minimum=0
      dimming.step=0.03
      light_effect.current=null
      light_effect.speed=null
      power_switch.state=false
      x_hass.domain="light"
      x_hass.entity_id="light.master_br_lamp_lamp_2"
      x_hass.services=["light","lifx"]
      x_hass.source="lifx"
      x_hass.state="off"
      x_hass_attr.brightness=null
      x_hass_attr.color_mode=null
      x_hass_attr.effect=null
      x_hass_attr.effect_list=["effect_pulse","effect_stop"]
      x_hass_attr.friendly_name="Master BR Lamp"
      x_hass_attr.supported_color_modes=["brightness"]
      x_hass_attr.supported_features=36

      *Hubitat C-7 2.5.1.142
      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

      *HAOS
      Core 2026.7.4
      w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
      FW: v1.1
      SDK: v7.23.1

      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
      MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
      MQTTController: 25139
      ZWave Controller: 25139

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        toggledbits
        wrote on last edited by toggledbits
        #10

        OK. I'm on this. See my previous post above yours. HA changes the way the definition of some services is published -- there's now no data/detail where there used to be data/detail. I'm not sure if that's an error they'll correct later, or if that's a new way of saying "just use the default behavior" (which in this case is pretty easy to guess). I will have a workaround update published shortly.

        FWIW, specifically, from 2025.10.4:

                "homeassistant": {
                    "save_persistent_states": {
                        "name": "Save persistent states",
                        "description": "Saves the persistent states immediately. Maintains the normal periodic saving interval.",
                        "fields": {}
                    },
                    "turn_off": {
                        "name": "Generic turn off",
                        "description": "Generic action to turn devices off under any domain.",
                        "fields": {},
                        "target": {
                            "entity": [
                                {}
                            ]
                        }
                    },
                    "turn_on": {
                        "name": "Generic turn on",
                        "description": "Generic action to turn devices on under any domain.",
                        "fields": {},
                        "target": {
                            "entity": [
                                {}
                            ]
                        }
                    },
                    "toggle": {
                        "name": "Generic toggle",
                        "description": "Generic action to toggle devices on/off under any domain.",
                        "fields": {},
                        "target": {
                            "entity": [
                                {}
                            ]
                        }
                    },
        

        Compare this to 2025.11.0:

                "homeassistant": {
                    "save_persistent_states": {
                        "fields": {}
                    },
                    "turn_off": {
                        "fields": {},
                        "target": {}    # <--- where did the detail go???
                    },
                    "turn_on": {
                        "fields": {},
                        "target": {}    # <--- where did the detail go???
                    },
                    "toggle": {
                        "fields": {},
                        "target": {}    # <--- where did the detail go???
                    },
        

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          @toggledbits I was able to grab this between meetings lol

          dimming.maximum=1
          dimming.minimum=0
          dimming.step=0.03
          light_effect.current=null
          light_effect.speed=null
          power_switch.state=false
          x_hass.domain="light"
          x_hass.entity_id="light.master_br_lamp_lamp_2"
          x_hass.services=["light","lifx"]
          x_hass.source="lifx"
          x_hass.state="off"
          x_hass_attr.brightness=null
          x_hass_attr.color_mode=null
          x_hass_attr.effect=null
          x_hass_attr.effect_list=["effect_pulse","effect_stop"]
          x_hass_attr.friendly_name="Master BR Lamp"
          x_hass_attr.supported_color_modes=["brightness"]
          x_hass_attr.supported_features=36
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          gwp1
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          #11

          @toggledbits I've uploaded the two log files to folder HASS 11.0 for you.

          *Hubitat C-7 2.5.1.142
          *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

          *HAOS
          Core 2026.7.4
          w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
          FW: v1.1
          SDK: v7.23.1

          *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
          MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
          MQTTController: 25139
          ZWave Controller: 25139

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            toggledbits
            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            OK... I found the PR in HA's code and the reasoning behind it. They are trying to make their data/responses more compact (performance reasons). I will have an updated build shortly for this change.

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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              Pmccraw
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              #13

              thanks all for the quick action on this issue!

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                toggledbits
                wrote on last edited by
                #14

                OK. Please pull 25310 (aka latest) again. I've patched HassController for this change.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  OK. Please pull 25310 (aka latest) again. I've patched HassController for this change.

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                  #15

                  @toggledbits would this be latest-25310-dc2bb580?

                  *Hubitat C-7 2.5.1.142
                  *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                  *HAOS
                  Core 2026.7.4
                  w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                  FW: v1.1
                  SDK: v7.23.1

                  *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                  MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
                  MQTTController: 25139
                  ZWave Controller: 25139

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                    @toggledbits would this be latest-25310-dc2bb580?

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                    #16

                    @gwp1 yes!

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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