Rulesets with multiple groups in Set Reaction not working post-26116
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Again, if you're not posting 20 or more lines of logs around what you think is interesting, it's not enough. You're also not showing the conditions for this Rule (a Ruleset is a collection of Rules).
It's suspicious to me that you have both Set and Reset reactions here... do you remember contra-reactions? If the rule is Set, the Set reaction starts running. While it's running, if the rule Resets and the Reset reaction is not empty, the Set reaction will be stopped (pre-empted) before the Reset reaction is started. The same is true the other way... the Reset reaction can be pre-empted by the rule Setting while the Reset reaction is running.
This very much comes into play when the rule's conditions look at an entity that is also controlled by either reaction (i.e. condition to see if the light is off with a reaction that turns it on), and any condition that produces pulse output (i.e. by using pulse output in condition options, or using the changes operator in a condition). The former instantly changes the rule conditions and possibly the rule state. The latter (pulse) happens very fast when no reset delay is configured, and can easily pre-empt the Set reaction before it even has a chance to start.
@toggledbits That's why I uploaded the full
reactor.logto your Dropbox.These are two different rules. Here they are in full:
Porch lights (logs provided last night)
Bedroom lamp (no logs yet)
I'll try to grab logs on the second one today and put in the same Dropbox folder.
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Enable logging at level 5 just for that rule. Anything else is going to generate too much information/distraction.
Edit: I'm not finding any issues yet in focused testing on this. I obvious don't know what the dependent rules do in your conditions (what conditions they have), but basic functional tests of groups with true and false constraints are working fine for me.
Since you have delays in your groups (or can easily add them), that's one way to slow things down so you can watch the "Running Reactions" status widget, which also may give us a clue why it's not working the way you expect.
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Enable logging at level 5 just for that rule. Anything else is going to generate too much information/distraction.
Edit: I'm not finding any issues yet in focused testing on this. I obvious don't know what the dependent rules do in your conditions (what conditions they have), but basic functional tests of groups with true and false constraints are working fine for me.
Since you have delays in your groups (or can easily add them), that's one way to slow things down so you can watch the "Running Reactions" status widget, which also may give us a clue why it's not working the way you expect.
@toggledbits logging enabled for both rules.
The deep rules are simply presence rules. When I isolate each group into it's own rule and change nothing else, they work fine.
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Enable logging at level 5 just for that rule. Anything else is going to generate too much information/distraction.
Edit: I'm not finding any issues yet in focused testing on this. I obvious don't know what the dependent rules do in your conditions (what conditions they have), but basic functional tests of groups with true and false constraints are working fine for me.
Since you have delays in your groups (or can easily add them), that's one way to slow things down so you can watch the "Running Reactions" status widget, which also may give us a clue why it's not working the way you expect.
@toggledbits Is this not correct?
"Rule#rule-lnict0lq": level: 5 streams: - type: file # filename is derived from rule ID keep: 2 level: 999 "Rule#rule-grpvl9oypg": level: 5 streams: - type: file # filename is derived from rule ID keep: 2 level: 999 recycle: true# recycle: true(It is in line...)
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Looks OK. Check your IDs if you are not getting logs. The files will be named
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Looks OK. Check your IDs if you are not getting logs. The files will be named
Logger#Rule#<ruleid>.log.
I copy-pasted the ruleID... restarted MSR. I know this worked previously, I had older rule-specific logs in my
logsdirectory that I've since deleted and in fairness to me, I'd just commented out the prior entry from logging.yaml and reused it lol
What obvious thing am I missing here?
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At this point I would need to see the entire config file. You could also run it through yamllint.com to make sure it's all OK (and remember, no tabs -- always spaces for indenting -- that's a common trap with some editors that "help" you during copy/paste).
Build 26127 has a change that may be responsible for the misbehavior, as well as additional logging in case that's not the problem. Please upgrade to that when able and see how it behaves.
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At this point I would need to see the entire config file. You could also run it through yamllint.com to make sure it's all OK (and remember, no tabs -- always spaces for indenting -- that's a common trap with some editors that "help" you during copy/paste).
Build 26127 has a change that may be responsible for the misbehavior, as well as additional logging in case that's not the problem. Please upgrade to that when able and see how it behaves.
@toggledbits this did not do the trick but I grabbed logs (didn't even have a chance to review them, sorry) and put them in the 26016 folder.
The rules in question:
rule-grpvl9oypg
rule-lnict0lqReal world names:
Porch lights: brighten for guests
MBR Lamp ON/OFF (via Motion and ESP)Note: I apparently did not complete the download from MSR of
reactor.logso I reran the tests and pulled it again (hence why it is newer than the includedreactor.log1.It's been a day... week...
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I dropped you a DM. Whatever folder you are uploading to has expired and I no longer have access to it.
That may be moot at this point, since info from @therealdb is likely leading to the same conclusion. I have a fix build coming soon that I'm at least 50% sure will address your problem as well as his.
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it fixed a couple for me, so definitely working! thanks!
PS: is it safe to delete the json files in the folder?
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it fixed a couple for me, so definitely working! thanks!
PS: is it safe to delete the json files in the folder?
@therealdb I saw the rules I saw having the issues go by along with many others. Most of my noted impacted rules are after hours so we'll see what happens this evening. Your response is encouraging!
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it fixed a couple for me, so definitely working! thanks!
PS: is it safe to delete the json files in the folder?
@therealdb said in Rulesets with multiple groups in Set Reaction not working post-26116:
PS: is it safe to delete the json files in the folder?
Which folder?
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@toggledbits the one with the rules.
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@toggledbits the one with the rules.
@therealdb Yes!
