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Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
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@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
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Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
tunnusT
I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Advice reqeusted to migrate MSR from Bare Metal to Container
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Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Can´t restart or upgrade/deploy MSR
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[Solved] Limit HA Entity in MSR
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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
R
Hi guys, Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular. Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets. I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.
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Moving MSR from a QNAP container to RP 5 - some issues
Tom_DT
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Widget deletion does not work and landing page (status) is empy
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Need help reducing false positive notifications
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Deleting widgets
tunnusT
Hopefully a trivial question, but how do you delete widgets in a status page? Using build 22266
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MQTT configuration question
tunnusT
I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }' While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?
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    It might be nice for global reactions to get a timestamp so that we know the last time one was run. Right now I have rules that run the set reaction of other rules directly, and I am unable to know precisely when those executed because the target rule is never technically set.

    But having at least a last-run time for global reactions makes sense.

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      Also, could a very slight (500ms?) delay or "fade away" be added to "Set Rules" and "Running Reactions" so that one gets a glimpse of "What just happened?" MSR is so fleetingly fast that even knowing what rule or reaction is about to execute, my eyes never see more than a blip, then blankness.

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        I suppose this won't be a high priority, but wishing is free 😉

        It would be awesome if MSR natively could be installed as a windows service.

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          #40

          Suggestion for MSR version 2 or 3.

          In Tiggers and Reactions could have an Action by Category/Sub-Category, i.e., instead of having to select all door sensors one by one, if all are in the same group the action would be for all.

          I believe there should be a panel similar to Enteries that would list all the devices based on the existing list (http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/Luup_Device_Categories). The list would have this division and would show the name of all the devices, and it should be possible to select which device would be part of the action. I.e., I can have for example 10 window sensors, but I want only 5 to be part of the group action, I would deselect the other 5 for an independent control.

          In Trigger and Reaction the selection would be as suggested Entety Group Action > a Category selector > and a Subcategory selector > binary_sensor.state (primary) TRUE or FALSE.

          My suggestion is not to have to create an action like the one below.

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            This horse may have been ridden already above and I just missed it but here goes: Is it possible to make Current Alerts click-thru to the offending Ruleset? I had to scramble to do some renaming just so I could figure out what ruleset was having the issue when it got flagged there.

            *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
            *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

            *HASS 2025.6.0
            w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

            *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
            MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
            MQTTController: 25139
            ZWave Controller: 25139

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              Another suggestion for upcoming versions is to have some of the most common Expressions easy configurable and available by default. Many of us, including myself, who chooses MSR instead of coding in luup or yaml or even use Node red - do that mainly because of our lack of coding experience. Therefor we would really appriciate all the help we could get, and if I'm correct, it would even be more accessible for a broader audience - just like Vera is more accessible for the common person than HA. An example that I think of is the difference in temperature (or other values) between a sensor indoors and a senor outdoors, would be neat to have as a choice by default. There must be a lot of similair examples . Don't know if this is possible to achive or worthwile, but I thought it was worth to throw it up in the air and see if anyone or anything catches. By the way - have a great weekend!

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                Perhaps your example (which is basically just subtractions of two numbers) is too trivial. But my current thinking in response is that (a) if you want to use expressions, learn how to use expressions, and (b) each expression is the... uh... expression of a lot of local knowledge applied to the problem (what the devices are, why you want to do it, how it will be used, etc.). There isn't enough "common" there to make it worth including in the system itself. It's not a problem requiring a feature solution; documentation would likely be sufficient, including prior Q&A in forum posts.

                But to reiterate, this is going to be a hard and fast rule for me: if you want to use a tool, invest the time to learn how to use the tool. You cannot build a reliable and supportable environment for yourself by assembling parts you don't understand. If a problem is important enough for you to want to solve, it's important enough for you to learn how to solve it.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  Point taken. Thanks for your swift reply. I totally agree with you. It's important, not to say crucial, to understand the tools you're using. It was a longshoot, born out of lazyness, combined with a very limited portion of time - and so much to learn in home automation, especially for us with no coding skills. But as they say; every journey starts with a single step...

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                    I plan to contribute examples of expressions that have worked for me with hopes that the most basic ones might get incorporated into the official documentation. Yet I agree with Patrick that it could be unwieldy to include those templates in the body of MSR itself.

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                      I plan to contribute examples of expressions that have worked for me with hopes that the most basic ones might get incorporated into the official documentation. Yet I agree with Patrick that it could be unwieldy to include those templates in the body of MSR itself.

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                      I was just going to reply to @Fanan about reading examples on the forum can really help point you in the right direction. @LibraSun posted some examples of some things I was struggling with, and that made all the difference. Carefully dissect the examples, refer back to the docs, and the dots will start to connect.

                      One thing that I think helped me a whole bunch was an Amazon Prime "The Great Courses" course on programing called "How to Program: Computer Science Concepts and Python Exercises." (only $7.99 a month for access) While it is not an MSR programing language course, it helped give me some foundational knowledge that sort of transfers. An example of this would be the principle of "lists" in Python to help you understand the basics of "arrays" in MSR.

                      Small steps and little victories will keep you going.

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