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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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MSR Not Recognizing Old HASS on New VM

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  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

    The log snippet shows the ws:// result but no wss:// result. I'd like to see that, because it's probably a different message and maybe more useful. The messages you are showing clearly indicate it wants you to use wss://.

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    @toggledbits logs attached using wss://

    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:38:34.723Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass websocket error during open/negotation: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:38:34.723Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass websocket to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket closed during open/negotiation
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:38:34.723Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass failed to connect/initialize communication: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:38:39.737Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass connecting to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:38:54.745Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass websocket error during open/negotation: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:38:54.745Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass websocket to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket closed during open/negotiation
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:38:54.746Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass failed to connect/initialize communication: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:38:59.748Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass connecting to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:14.751Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass websocket error during open/negotation: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:14.752Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass websocket to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket closed during open/negotiation
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:14.752Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass failed to connect/initialize communication: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:19.759Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass connecting to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:28.763Z <VeraController:INFO> VeraController#vera 0 dead entities older than 86400000s purged
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:34.765Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass websocket error during open/negotation: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:34.765Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass websocket to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket closed during open/negotiation
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:34.765Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass failed to connect/initialize communication: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:39.771Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass connecting to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:54.776Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass websocket error during open/negotation: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:54.777Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass websocket to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket closed during open/negotiation
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:39:54.777Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass failed to connect/initialize communication: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:40:04.779Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass connecting to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:40:19.786Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass websocket error during open/negotation: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:40:19.787Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass websocket to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket closed during open/negotiation
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:40:19.788Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass failed to connect/initialize communication: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:40:34.791Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass connecting to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:40:49.796Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass websocket error during open/negotation: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:40:49.797Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass websocket to wss://192.168.8.113:8123/api/websocket closed during open/negotiation
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:40:49.798Z <HassController:WARN> HassController#hass failed to connect/initialize communication: [Error]Error: Opening handshake has timed out
    [latest-22258]2022-09-21T02:41:00.728Z <Rule:INFO> Inside Light Polling (Rule#rule-grpqlebtkk) starting evaluation; because timer-trigger Timer#rule-grpqlebtkk
    
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      And that's also with ignore_cert: true, correct?

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        And that's also with ignore_cert: true, correct?

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        @toggledbits correct

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          OK. All I can suggest at this point is that maybe you have the old IP address of the previous system in Hass' configuration somewhere and it's messing things up. Beyond that, I'm out of ideas. Maybe shut down that VM, create a new one, install Hass fresh and clean without restoring the prior configuration, just use a default configuration, and see if you can connect to it. If you can, it's definitely something in the old config/restored install. If you can't, maybe something in the VM configuration... I don't know. This usually isn't much of a challenge, and HassController isn't doing anything tricky, it uses a standard Websocket library in wide use for its connections, so I'm doubtful there's suddenly some bug or incompatibility there.

          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          • toggledbitsT toggledbits

            OK. All I can suggest at this point is that maybe you have the old IP address of the previous system in Hass' configuration somewhere and it's messing things up. Beyond that, I'm out of ideas. Maybe shut down that VM, create a new one, install Hass fresh and clean without restoring the prior configuration, just use a default configuration, and see if you can connect to it. If you can, it's definitely something in the old config/restored install. If you can't, maybe something in the VM configuration... I don't know. This usually isn't much of a challenge, and HassController isn't doing anything tricky, it uses a standard Websocket library in wide use for its connections, so I'm doubtful there's suddenly some bug or incompatibility there.

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            @toggledbits Will try creating a new Hass install and see if I can get MSR to work. In terms of the existing config, none of the entities will get auto deleted since the controller is offline right? Also if I clear out he Hass config completely from MSR, restart MSR then reconfigure as if its the first time entering a Hass config in will this overwrite all my existing Hass entities?

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              Just use a different ID for the new HassController instance... so if you had id: hass in the first config, use hass2 in the second.

              It probably won't matter anyway, as the IDs should be stable... the new entities would have the same IDs as the old, be of the same type, etc.

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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              • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                Just use a different ID for the new HassController instance... so if you had id: hass in the first config, use hass2 in the second.

                It probably won't matter anyway, as the IDs should be stable... the new entities would have the same IDs as the old, be of the same type, etc.

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                @toggledbits Just quickly set up a new Hass VM and am seeing the same errors. Tried with both ignore_cert: true and false no luck. This seems to be a VMware issue, I did do look through settings but couldn't really see anything that would stop MSR from connecting.

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                  To be specific, you need to try ws:// (ignore_cert does not matter for this case), and wss:// with ignore_cert: true. Both cases.

                  Beyond that, I'm at a loss. Are you running Hass in docker? Are you running Reactor in docker? I'd look at all of that, too...

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                    To be specific, you need to try ws:// (ignore_cert does not matter for this case), and wss:// with ignore_cert: true. Both cases.

                    Beyond that, I'm at a loss. Are you running Hass in docker? Are you running Reactor in docker? I'd look at all of that, too...

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                    @toggledbits Neither are running in docker, both run on their own VM on the same host. Just the difference now is Reactor is running on a VirutalBox VM and MSR is on a VMware VM

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                      @toggledbits Neither are running in docker, both run on their own VM on the same host. Just the difference now is Reactor is running on a VirutalBox VM and MSR is on a VMware VM

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                      @pabla said in MSR Not Recognizing Old HASS on New VM:

                      Just the difference now is Reactor is running on a VirutalBox VM and MSR is on a VMware VM

                      Huh?

                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                        @pabla said in MSR Not Recognizing Old HASS on New VM:

                        Just the difference now is Reactor is running on a VirutalBox VM and MSR is on a VMware VM

                        Huh?

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                        @toggledbit Lol whoops meant to say MSR is running on a VirtualBox VM and Hass is running on a WMware VM

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                          So did a little research and it looks like Websocket is not supported in VMware workstation 16.. I just bought an ODROID cause I am tired of tinkering with all these issues I have had with VMs

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                            Just to close this thread up, it was a VMware issue as stated above. Moved over to an ODROID and MSR connected no problem.

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