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Hello all.. been a minute! I recently rebuilt my Z wave network and migrated to a new z wave stick. In order to prevent any downtime I kept my original z wave network up and ran a docker version of Z Wave JS UI with my new controller. This way I could add device by device without having any devices down. I finally moved all the devices over to my new stick today. The final step was to migrate everything from my Docker instance of Z Wave JS UI to the HA add-on of Z Wave JS UI. However during this migration some of the names didn't populate correctly which I later managed to import back into Z Wave JS UI. The issue was in Reactor it is stuck on the default names and the entities are not updating. I removed the controller from Reactor, restarted, hard refreshed, and added the controller back however the new entity names have not updated. Also it seems like the old entities from my previous instance of Z Wave JS UI are lingering and not being marked as dead (I believe a certain amount of time needs to lapse before they're marked as dead in Reactor). My goal is to basically purge all the entities for the 'ZWaveJS' controller in Reactor so it can pull all the updated entity names and only the entities that exist in Z Wave JS UI. I cannot find a quick way to do this, I know entities can be deleted one by one, but with over 100 entities this would take long I am guessing that if I added the controller with a new name in in the Reactor config it would pull the updated entities and names but I think that would break my rules since the entity IDs would change (I made sure to name all the entities the exact same as they were previously to prevent this issue).
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[MSR] reactor-mqtt-contrib package for additional MQTT templates
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I'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only). Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package: https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go. I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them. The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression. Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests
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Tangentially did I miss 2025.9.4 getting blessed in MSR? I've been holding off Cheers C
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The reaction stopped working (Google Nest max playing a video)
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[Reactor] Copy&Paste of Rules
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I don't know if I'm the only one, but managing more than one Reactor installs, the need to have some sort of copy&paste for rules has grown on me. While I understand the technical challenges, I'm wondering if a "god mode" where I could copy the raw JSON rule and paste it into another rule could be an advanced, flag only feature that could benefit power users. I know I can copy the JSON file and proceed, but I must stop Reactor and when doing maintenance, it's more clicks to do. Just an idea
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[Reactor] Help with screne controller cycling logic
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I’ve added a couple of Shelly Wave i4 as scene controllers and I’m planning to add more, since I can just use standard buttons instead of battery-powered scene controllers, which also looks better aesthetically. That said, I’m struggling to figure out how to write a simple rule that cycles between states every time I press a button. Example: Light 1 ON → OFF, then Light 2 ON → OFF. The part I can’t get right is handling the case where Light 1 or Light 2 might already be ON independently of the rule. Maybe it’s just too much sun and relaxation clouding my brain, but any hint would be appreciated.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
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Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Expose MSR entities
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Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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Comment in Globa Expressions
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I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
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As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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  • CatmanV2C CatmanV2

    OK so this is mostly good. There is less functionality than iPhone locator (i.e. ETA isn't trrivial to get out) but still not 100% reliable. I was travelling from Friday to yesterday. I failed to get an update that I'd 'got home' yesterday PM. Mrs C was at home all that time, going to work and back, and reported perfectly so I have to assume it's a configuration / implementation on my phone.

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    @catmanv2 Same here, it works but not 100% reliable. A few misses that seem to correlate to if I am on the phone or not. I really miss the reliability iPhone locator.

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      It's 100% reliable for me and my Wifi routers are doing the 0,001% of the edge cases.
      I'm using my WIFI routers to confirm I'm home (when it's not triggering directlty) and I'll soon add ESPresence to the mix (mainly for cars, but we'll see).

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        It's 100% reliable for me and my Wifi routers are doing the 0,001% of the edge cases.
        I'm using my WIFI routers to confirm I'm home (when it's not triggering directlty) and I'll soon add ESPresence to the mix (mainly for cars, but we'll see).

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        @therealdb are you EU or US? I suspect there's some data 'protection' witchery going on. Or at least some phone based config that is not directly in the app itself. (I mean my phone is always asking me if I want such and such an app to continue to access my location. I imagine missing one of those notifications is going to break stuff....)

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          @therealdb are you EU or US? I suspect there's some data 'protection' witchery going on. Or at least some phone based config that is not directly in the app itself. (I mean my phone is always asking me if I want such and such an app to continue to access my location. I imagine missing one of those notifications is going to break stuff....)

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          @catmanv2 I'm based in Italy, so that makes me under GDPR. I'm even the CISO for our company, so I know how hard it is. But given OwnTracks is totally self-hosted, I don't think GDPR is the culprit - well, not in this case.

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            Hmm interesting. Perhaps it's just UK 😄

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              So came home tonight. My phone says 'entering home'. MSR doesn't. Not had a dig yet

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              OK that's interesting. Owntracks was reporting that the network was down. I have a. VPN to my home system, which doesn't respond if you're on the network (if that make sense).

              As soon as I disconnected from the VPN, bingo. Soooooo need to either sort out the VPN from local (which seems daft) or get some automatic disconnect.

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                So came home tonight. My phone says 'entering home'. MSR doesn't. Not had a dig yet

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                OK that's interesting. Owntracks was reporting that the network was down. I have a. VPN to my home system, which doesn't respond if you're on the network (if that make sense).

                As soon as I disconnected from the VPN, bingo. Soooooo need to either sort out the VPN from local (which seems daft) or get some automatic disconnect.

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                @catmanv2 that's why I'm publishing to an http endpoint that's relaying the message inside my mqtt server (internal). Maybe a public mqtt broker linked to your internal one is easier.

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                • therealdbT therealdb

                  @catmanv2 that's why I'm publishing to an http endpoint that's relaying the message inside my mqtt server (internal). Maybe a public mqtt broker linked to your internal one is easier.

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                  @therealdb thing is I know from other apps that when the phone transitions from 4(5)G to WiFi and is connected on the VPN it loses connectivity. I knew this intellectually but now I know it in my bones as it were.

                  So it won't talk to the HTTP endpoint either...... It won't talk to anything.

                  I've seen it often enough with mail and Slack but never really added two and two

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                    It’s funny, back in August there was an issue with iPhoneLocator. It was an add-on integration that I couldn’t live without. It fixed itself magically after 3 or 4 days, but it put me on the road to looking for a Vera alternative.

                    Ezlo kept making promises, but I felt like I was going to be kept being strung along if I switched to Ezlo. It felt like they were stringing users along with basic functionality, like geofencing.

                    In September I switched to Home Assistant, and I haven’t looked back. Everything works so much better. The built in geofencing of the companion app works flawlessly. I have four users, that just needed an account on my instance, and I know if they are home or not, and I can depend on it for my automation.

                    Integrations that stopped working or worked unreliably on Vera years ago work perfectly. My Nest thermostat works again with my home automation. I can use Google Calendar with ease.

                    Not to disparage Vera for the innovation they did years ago, but for anyone still on the platform, run! Vera has essentially been abandoned

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                      It’s funny, back in August there was an issue with iPhoneLocator. It was an add-on integration that I couldn’t live without. It fixed itself magically after 3 or 4 days, but it put me on the road to looking for a Vera alternative.

                      Ezlo kept making promises, but I felt like I was going to be kept being strung along if I switched to Ezlo. It felt like they were stringing users along with basic functionality, like geofencing.

                      In September I switched to Home Assistant, and I haven’t looked back. Everything works so much better. The built in geofencing of the companion app works flawlessly. I have four users, that just needed an account on my instance, and I know if they are home or not, and I can depend on it for my automation.

                      Integrations that stopped working or worked unreliably on Vera years ago work perfectly. My Nest thermostat works again with my home automation. I can use Google Calendar with ease.

                      Not to disparage Vera for the innovation they did years ago, but for anyone still on the platform, run! Vera has essentially been abandoned

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                      @tamorgen If you're using Home Assistant look into iCloud3. It replaces the native iCloud integration and is much, much more reliable. You can find it in HACS.

                      Oh - and the level of detail you can pull into MSR is wonderful.

                      *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.123
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                      MSR: latest-25264-2fbe9217
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                        @tamorgen If you're using Home Assistant look into iCloud3. It replaces the native iCloud integration and is much, much more reliable. You can find it in HACS.

                        Oh - and the level of detail you can pull into MSR is wonderful.

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                        @gwp1 said in iPhone location or alternative.:

                        @tamorgen If you're using Home Assistant look into iCloud3. It replaces the native iCloud integration and is much, much more reliable. You can find it in HACS.

                        Oh - and the level of detail you can pull into MSR is wonderful.

                        I did try it for a while, but I kept getting annoying emails from Apple that my iCloud account was signed into. There is a ton of detail on it, but frankly, all I needed to know was whether a particular user was at my home or not. The companion app works perfectly well for that simple task

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                          @gwp1 said in iPhone location or alternative.:

                          @tamorgen If you're using Home Assistant look into iCloud3. It replaces the native iCloud integration and is much, much more reliable. You can find it in HACS.

                          Oh - and the level of detail you can pull into MSR is wonderful.

                          I did try it for a while, but I kept getting annoying emails from Apple that my iCloud account was signed into. There is a ton of detail on it, but frankly, all I needed to know was whether a particular user was at my home or not. The companion app works perfectly well for that simple task

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                          @tamorgen I found the trick of triggering from iC3's zone_name within MSR virtually eliminates false GPS drift from suddenly shutting my house down around me only to open it back up again when it course-corrects.

                          I don't get those emails - I think I did initially and don't recall what I did to stop them. iCloud does, now and then, force a reconfirmation dialogue but that's easy 2FA stuff.

                          *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.123
                          *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                          *HASS 2025.9.4
                          w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                          *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                          MSR: latest-25264-2fbe9217
                          MQTTController: 25139
                          ZWave Controller: 25139

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                            It’s funny, back in August there was an issue with iPhoneLocator. It was an add-on integration that I couldn’t live without. It fixed itself magically after 3 or 4 days, but it put me on the road to looking for a Vera alternative.

                            Ezlo kept making promises, but I felt like I was going to be kept being strung along if I switched to Ezlo. It felt like they were stringing users along with basic functionality, like geofencing.

                            In September I switched to Home Assistant, and I haven’t looked back. Everything works so much better. The built in geofencing of the companion app works flawlessly. I have four users, that just needed an account on my instance, and I know if they are home or not, and I can depend on it for my automation.

                            Integrations that stopped working or worked unreliably on Vera years ago work perfectly. My Nest thermostat works again with my home automation. I can use Google Calendar with ease.

                            Not to disparage Vera for the innovation they did years ago, but for anyone still on the platform, run! Vera has essentially been abandoned

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                            @tamorgen said in iPhone location or alternative.:

                            It’s funny, back in August there was an issue with iPhoneLocator. It was an add-on integration that I couldn’t live without. It fixed itself magically after 3 or 4 days, but it put me on the road to looking for a Vera alternative.

                            Ezlo kept making promises, but I felt like I was going to be kept being strung along if I switched to Ezlo. It felt like they were stringing users along with basic functionality, like geofencing.

                            In September I switched to Home Assistant, and I haven’t looked back. Everything works so much better. The built in geofencing of the companion app works flawlessly. I have four users, that just needed an account on my instance, and I know if they are home or not, and I can depend on it for my automation.

                            Integrations that stopped working or worked unreliably on Vera years ago work perfectly. My Nest thermostat works again with my home automation. I can use Google Calendar with ease.

                            Not to disparage Vera for the innovation they did years ago, but for anyone still on the platform, run! Vera has essentially been abandoned

                            Thread merge! 🙂

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                              @tamorgen I found the trick of triggering from iC3's zone_name within MSR virtually eliminates false GPS drift from suddenly shutting my house down around me only to open it back up again when it course-corrects.

                              I don't get those emails - I think I did initially and don't recall what I did to stop them. iCloud does, now and then, force a reconfirmation dialogue but that's easy 2FA stuff.

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                              @gwp1 said in iPhone location or alternative.:

                              @tamorgen I found the trick of triggering from iC3's zone_name within MSR virtually eliminates false GPS drift from suddenly shutting my house down around me only to open it back up again when it course-corrects.

                              I don't get those emails - I think I did initially and don't recall what I did to stop them. iCloud does, now and then, force a reconfirmation dialogue but that's easy 2FA stuff.

                              You know, looking back, I don’t think I was using IC3. I think I was using the Apple ICloud integration native to HA, not HACS. I’ll take a look at a closer look at IC3. Might give me some added functionality I don’t know I need 🙂

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