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Nothing more to add. I see we have hvac_blower, but, anyway, maybe a native fan on the same assumptions of the fan from HASS could be reasonable. I have a couple of them. ie, this is from ESPHome via HASS. x_hass.domain="fan" x_hass.entity_id="fan.kitchen_seashell_hood_ventilation_fan" x_hass.floor_id=null x_hass.services=["fan","esphome"] x_hass.source="esphome" x_hass.state="off" x_hass_attr.friendly_name="Seashell Hood Ventilation Fan" x_hass_attr.percentage=50 x_hass_attr.percentage_step=25 x_hass_attr.preset_mode="" x_hass_attr.preset_modes=[] x_hass_attr.supported_features=49 Thanks.
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[MSR] Rule do not fire
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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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I accidentally deleted Reactor Ex Machina II (REM II) from my Reactor rules. I tried to recover it by deleting the .json and .dval in the Rules subdirectory and then recreating it from Togglebits original posting, but that did not work. Does anyone know how to recover REM ll ?
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[Solved] DynamicGroupController updating members issue
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Which user to install nodejs as ? Debian Linux

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  • cw-kidC cw-kid

    @toggledbits said in Which user to install nodejs as ? Debian Linux:

    When backing up and restoring, the entire storage folder should always go as a unit. No cherry-picking

    Understood now thanks.

    I uploaded the file to your dropbox. Cheers for the help!

    Btw I formatted everything and started again earlier, no longer using NVM to install node.js I installed it globally instead with apt via the command from this webpage here. That seems to have fixed my Node-Red service file issues anyways. Both MSR and Node-Red are auto starting at boot now.

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    toggledbits
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    #11

    @cw-kid said in Which user to install nodejs as ? Debian Linux:

    I installed it globally instead with apt via the command from this webpage here.

    Sigh. OK. Unfortunately, that version (20) is already out of development, but at least it's LTS and will hold until 2026. Or maybe the header on the page is wrong and it's been updated to install the latest LTS. Either way, Reactor will support it as long as it's under maintenance with the authors.

    There's nothing wrong with your expressions.json file. I'm guessing it's a permissions problem after you copy it from whatever source you copied it from (it's keeping the user and group IDs on the file from whatever source, and the user ID has changed between the two systems).

    As I said, you should copy the entire storage directory, don't cherry pick, because there are other important files in there that align with your installation. Once you've copied everything, run the following commands in a shell from the Reactor install directory (where Reactor's app.js is located), substituting <user> and <group> with the user and group names, respectively:

    sudo chown -R <user>:<group> .
    sudo chmod -R ug=rwX,o= .
    

    This should fix all file permissions. Then start Reactor.

    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      @cw-kid said in Which user to install nodejs as ? Debian Linux:

      I installed it globally instead with apt via the command from this webpage here.

      Sigh. OK. Unfortunately, that version (20) is already out of development, but at least it's LTS and will hold until 2026. Or maybe the header on the page is wrong and it's been updated to install the latest LTS. Either way, Reactor will support it as long as it's under maintenance with the authors.

      There's nothing wrong with your expressions.json file. I'm guessing it's a permissions problem after you copy it from whatever source you copied it from (it's keeping the user and group IDs on the file from whatever source, and the user ID has changed between the two systems).

      As I said, you should copy the entire storage directory, don't cherry pick, because there are other important files in there that align with your installation. Once you've copied everything, run the following commands in a shell from the Reactor install directory (where Reactor's app.js is located), substituting <user> and <group> with the user and group names, respectively:

      sudo chown -R <user>:<group> .
      sudo chmod -R ug=rwX,o= .
      

      This should fix all file permissions. Then start Reactor.

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      cw-kid
      wrote on last edited by cw-kid
      #12

      @toggledbits

      I used WINSCP to copy the file from my Windows PC to the Linux box.

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      It says rw-r--r-- next to the expressions file and has me as the owner of the file.

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      Regarding nodejs installed via apt it says its version v20.18.1 I think version 22.x is the latest. Maybe I can upgrade it somehow later.

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        #13

        Yeah, but I can see in that screen shot that there are other broken permissions that are going to cause problems. For example, look at the reactions folder. It's owned by root, with no write permission for group or other users, so that's going to prevent you from saving new reactions, at least, and depending on individual file permissions within that folder, editing and saving any existing reactions. So I suspect the parent folder storage, and maybe even the Reactor install directory itself, have gotten broken permissions/ownership along the way of your efforts.

        You need to fix the entire directory tree to be safe, using the commands I gave you.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          #14

          OK I ran these commands in the home/stuart/reactor folder where the app.js file is located. That appears to have worked and changed some of the folders and files from root to my name now.

          Also after restarting MSR the expressions.json file is no longer changing from 9k to 1k in size and I can open the file from the Linux machine and see its contents are still all intact. It wasn't doing that before.

          However in the MSR GUI in Expressions its still empty.

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          Edit I seem to have ballsed something up, i have a path now of /home/stuart/reactor/reactor hang on let me try and fix that.

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            #15

            Not sure how I ended up with a reactor folder in the reactor folder. I deleted it.
            It now looks correct and I ran the commands again for the permssions.

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            However every time I copy the expression file from the PC to the Linux box its 9k in file size. But when I restart MSR it changes that file to be 1k and wipes out all its contents.

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              wrote on last edited by cw-kid
              #16

              Think I have got it working now!
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              I ran these commands again logged in as me.

              cd /home/stuart
              pkill -QUIT node
              tar xzvf /home/stuart/reactor-latest-24302-751a06b6.tar.gz
              sudo systemctl start reactor

              cd /home/stuart/reactor
              npm i --no-save --omit dev

              Will try and figure out how to update nodejs now from 20.x to 22.x.

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                It seems nodesource is just out of date and does not have the latest versions of nodejs

                I tried this command instead and it still only wants to get version v20.18.1 as the latest one.

                curl -fsSL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_current.x | -E bash -

                apt-get install -y nodejs

                And when I run a "Which node" command its put it in this directory which I don't think is ideal?

                /usr/bin/node

                So now sure now the best way to update nodejs.

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                  #18

                  Frankly, I wouldn't update. The amount of changes you've made are making your entire system a moving target. You're good until 2026. Leave it alone for now. Get everything else working, and get it stable.

                  In the meanwhile, grab yourself a Pi or something else cheap that can run Linux, and practice. Install versions and get to know where things go and how they are connected together. Upgrade it. Blow it up, wipe it, and do it again until you understand why it blows up. The time you invest will pay you back later when you deal with your "production" system. Sandboxes are a lovely thing. Go play!

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    Ah this point, if I was you @cw-kid , I’ll start taking a look at docker. That’s exactly why they built it: to easily install and manage applications. Just backup your docker file and settings and you’ll move in seconds. I have a backup installation always ready on my synology and ready to run in minutes in case of problems.

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                      Ah this point, if I was you @cw-kid , I’ll start taking a look at docker. That’s exactly why they built it: to easily install and manage applications. Just backup your docker file and settings and you’ll move in seconds. I have a backup installation always ready on my synology and ready to run in minutes in case of problems.

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                      @therealdb I have the hardware, just haven't had the time yet, to do exactly this.

                      *Hubitat C-7 2.5.1.142
                      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                      *HAOS
                      Core 2026.7.4
                      w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                      FW: v1.1
                      SDK: v7.23.1

                      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                      MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
                      MQTTController: 25139
                      ZWave Controller: 25139

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