Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Unsolved
Collapse
Discussion Forum to share and further the development of home control and automation, independent of platforms.
  1. Home
  2. Software
  3. Multi-System Reactor
  4. SMTP Gmail issue
How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
Multi-System Reactor
Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
Multi-System Reactor
VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
S
I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
Multi-System Reactor
Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
Multi-System Reactor
Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
G
Topic thumbnail image
Multi-System Reactor
[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
CrilleC
Topic thumbnail image
Multi-System Reactor
[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
therealdbT
Topic thumbnail image
Multi-System Reactor
Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
Multi-System Reactor
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
Multi-System Reactor
Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
Multi-System Reactor
[Reactor] Bug when sending MQTT boolean payloads
therealdbT
Topic thumbnail image
Multi-System Reactor
Difficulty defining repeating annual period
R
I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
Multi-System Reactor
Need help with sequence
T
Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
Multi-System Reactor
Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
Multi-System Reactor
Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
PablaP
Topic thumbnail image
Multi-System Reactor
Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
Multi-System Reactor
MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
CatmanV2C
Topic thumbnail image
Multi-System Reactor
Reset a delay
CatmanV2C
I'm sure this has been asked, and answered, but damned if I can figure it out Use case: I have a rear garden with lights. A door from the kitchen into the garden and a door from the garage. Currently if I open the kitchen door the lights come on (yay) and a 3 minute delay starts. After 3 minutes, no matter what else happens, the lights go off (Boo! But also yay!) What I would like is for the 3 minute delay until the lights go off to start from the latest door open event. That is, if I'm going from kitchen to garage, and back again, the lights stay on until there's three minutes of no activity. I've tried 'hacking' with a virtual switch, but can't seem to stop the delay. Any pointers? TIA C
Multi-System Reactor
Reactor Loading Screen Safari
S
Topic thumbnail image
Multi-System Reactor
Constraints states visually do not match actual
S
Topic thumbnail image
Multi-System Reactor

SMTP Gmail issue

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Multi-System Reactor
14 Posts 5 Posters 1.8k Views 4 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • ElcidE Offline
    ElcidE Offline
    Elcid
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Having issues with gmail. This was working 3 days ago. I updated to nodejs14 and for some reason had to reinstall MSR I did not have backup of notification.yaml, so re-entered the settings. The log is showing the smtp call is timing out. Any Ideas. I turn logging to 6 but no aditional info.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • CatmanV2C Offline
      CatmanV2C Offline
      CatmanV2
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Have you tried connecting to the configured server direct from a command line? What options are you passing in the yaml file?

      C

      The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

      ElcidE 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • CatmanV2C CatmanV2

        Have you tried connecting to the configured server direct from a command line? What options are you passing in the yaml file?

        C

        ElcidE Offline
        ElcidE Offline
        Elcid
        wrote on last edited by
        #3
        notification:
          # Alert is the system-default notification method that displays an alert
          # in the Status tab of the UI. It has no options.
          Alert: {}
        
          # SMTP (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol, for sending email)
          SMTP:
            profiles:
              default:
                # description - A friendly description of this profile (for menus)
                description: main email
                #
                # host - Hostname or IP address of SMTP server. Default: localhost
                host: "smtp.gmail.com"
                #
                # port - Port on which to make connection. The typical values are 25,
                #        465, and 587. Port 25 is usually only usable for local (LAN)
                #        servers, as some ISPs block it for SPAM control. Port 465 is
                #        usually for SSL/TLS-originated connections to the MTA, and
                #        port 587 is for STARTTLS to the MTA. If you're not sure, it's
                #        usually best to start with 587. Default is 25.
                port: 465
                #
                # allow_invalid_cert - if true, self-signed certificates are accepted
                #                      on secure connections; otherwise, they are not
                #                      verified.
                #allow_invalid_cert: true
                #
                # sender - email address to be used in "from" field of messages. The
                #          default is "username+reactor@hostname" where username is
                #          the user under which the Reactor service is running.
                sender: "********@gmail.com"
                #
                # default_recipient - email address to use when no recipients are spec-
                #                     ified in the Notify action. This can be a list of
                #                     comma-separated values. Default: sender address.
                default_recipient: "*******@gmail.com"
                #
                # default_subject - default subject if the notification does not provide
                #                   one.
                default_subject: "Notification from Reactor"
                #
                # username and password - for authentication with the MTA. If not given,
                #                         no login/auth is attempted (often acceptable
                #                         for connections to local/LAN servers).
                username: "*****@gmail.com"
                password: "dddjdyyyddkfuyydysb"
                #
                # auth_method - Future. Don't uncomment or modify the line below.
                #auth_method: "PLAIN"
                #
                # secure: if true, an SSL/TLS connection is established to the specified
                #         port. If false, STARTTLS is attempted after connecting. It is
                #         usually NOT necessary to uncomment and use this value; please
                #         not uncomment it unless advised to do so.
                #secure: false
                #
                # ignore_tls - if true, STARTTLS is not used even if the server
                #              advertises its support. This is sometimes useful for MTA
                #              connections to servers on trusted/local/LAN networks.
                #ignore_tls: false
        
        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • ElcidE Offline
          ElcidE Offline
          Elcid
          wrote on last edited by Elcid
          #4

          I get no response from
          openssl s_client -connect smtp.gmail.com:465

          if i leave it a minute i get

          4024960164:error:0200206E:system library:connect:Connection timed out:crypto/bio/b_sock2.c:110:
          4024960164:error:2008A067:BIO routines:BIO_connect:connect error:crypto/bio/b_sock2.c:111:
          connect:errno=110
          

          I have googled error and it suggests the wrong port or server is refusing secure connections on that port.
          465 is the standard gmail smtp port that i use in reactor.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • toggledbitsT Offline
            toggledbitsT Offline
            toggledbits
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            I can connect to smtp.gmail.com on 465 fine from where I am (using openssl as you gave it), so it suggests either a temporary routing failure of your upstream or maybe incorrect network configuration on your network (incorrect netmask, firewall/filtering, etc.).

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • ElcidE Offline
              ElcidE Offline
              Elcid
              wrote on last edited by Elcid
              #6

              Ok, that got me thinking, turns out app password is being blocked when vpn is on, this hasbeen working for over a year. They really are making vpn's more difficult

              seems google is blocking ipvanish maidenhead servers, I have moved back to london as they are still working.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • CatmanV2C Offline
                CatmanV2C Offline
                CatmanV2
                wrote on last edited by CatmanV2
                #7

                That would do it. Glad you're sorted, although why do you want to use a VPN to connect to them?

                C

                The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • ElcidE Offline
                  ElcidE Offline
                  Elcid
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  So my ISP does not get a record of my internet interactions, also it stops them throttling my connection my upload speed goes from 1.3 to 5 when connected to a VPN all for $39 a year unlimited with 500gb cloud storage

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  1
                  • parkercP Offline
                    parkercP Offline
                    parkerc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    Hi @Elcid do you recommend IPVanish?

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • ElcidE Offline
                      ElcidE Offline
                      Elcid
                      wrote on last edited by Elcid
                      #10

                      Yes the connection is very stable my 35 mb /10mb connection gets 30/1.2 normally from my ISP
                      when connected to VPN I get 20-28 /5mb. and connection is stable very rarely do I get VPN connection issues.
                      There help desk response time is pretty good to. The VPN is unlimited downloads and devices.
                      I have also got 80mb when downloading multiple files simultaneously
                      They also have split tunneling so you can bypass VPN for certain apps, and you can allow local lan access without VPN

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • G Offline
                        G Offline
                        gwp1
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        I've been using IPVanish for a couple three years now. I have had success with it. Little pricey but seemingly more stable than others.

                        *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                        *HAOS
                        Core 2026.1.1
                        w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                        FW: v1.1
                        SDK: v7.23.1

                        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                        MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                        MQTTController: 25139
                        ZWave Controller: 25139

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • ElcidE Offline
                          ElcidE Offline
                          Elcid
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          How is $39 a year pricey?

                          G 1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • ElcidE Elcid

                            How is $39 a year pricey?

                            G Offline
                            G Offline
                            gwp1
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @elcid You should review their pricing. $39 for the first year... future years it's ~$80. I've been with them a couple three years now.

                            *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                            *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                            *HAOS
                            Core 2026.1.1
                            w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                            FW: v1.1
                            SDK: v7.23.1

                            *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                            MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                            MQTTController: 25139
                            ZWave Controller: 25139

                            ElcidE 1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • G gwp1

                              @elcid You should review their pricing. $39 for the first year... future years it's ~$80. I've been with them a couple three years now.

                              ElcidE Offline
                              ElcidE Offline
                              Elcid
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @gwp1 I have been with them for 3 -4 years and never paid more than $4 a month. I have haggle every year and I get an offer every year, but this year I just used a different email address.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • toggledbitsT toggledbits locked this topic on
                              Reply
                              • Reply as topic
                              Log in to reply
                              • Oldest to Newest
                              • Newest to Oldest
                              • Most Votes


                              Recent Topics

                              • HA and AI
                                CatmanV2C
                                CatmanV2
                                0
                                1
                                23

                              • How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
                                CatmanV2C
                                CatmanV2
                                0
                                6
                                85

                              • Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
                                toggledbitsT
                                toggledbits
                                0
                                2
                                85

                              • VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
                                S
                                SweetGenius
                                1
                                1
                                58

                              • Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
                                toggledbitsT
                                toggledbits
                                3
                                1
                                55

                              • Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
                                G
                                gwp1
                                0
                                1
                                74

                              • [Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
                                CrilleC
                                Crille
                                0
                                4
                                134

                              • [Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
                                therealdbT
                                therealdb
                                0
                                3
                                139

                              • Possible feature request 2?
                                CatmanV2C
                                CatmanV2
                                0
                                3
                                113

                              • Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
                                toggledbitsT
                                toggledbits
                                5
                                133
                                81.5k

                              • Genuinely impressed with Zigbee and HA / Reactor
                                CatmanV2C
                                CatmanV2
                                1
                                9
                                416

                              • Copying a global reaction
                                toggledbitsT
                                toggledbits
                                0
                                3
                                136
                              Powered by NodeBB | Contributors
                              Hosted freely by 10RUPTiV - Solutions Technologiques | Contact us
                              • Login

                              • Don't have an account? Register

                              • Login or register to search.
                              • First post
                                Last post
                              0
                              • Categories
                              • Recent
                              • Tags
                              • Popular
                              • Unsolved