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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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[Reactor] Help with screne controller cycling logic
therealdbT
I’ve added a couple of Shelly Wave i4 as scene controllers and I’m planning to add more, since I can just use standard buttons instead of battery-powered scene controllers, which also looks better aesthetically. That said, I’m struggling to figure out how to write a simple rule that cycles between states every time I press a button. Example: Light 1 ON → OFF, then Light 2 ON → OFF. The part I can’t get right is handling the case where Light 1 or Light 2 might already be ON independently of the rule. Maybe it’s just too much sun and relaxation clouding my brain, but any hint would be appreciated.
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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
therealdbT
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Expose MSR entities
CatmanV2C
Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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Comment in Globa Expressions
Tom_DT
I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API.
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Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Can't customize home page
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I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page. Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones. Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025) What have I done?! Will check other browsers on my M1. UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour. I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
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@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
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Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
tunnusT
I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Advice reqeusted to migrate MSR from Bare Metal to Container
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Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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[Solved] Limit HA Entity in MSR
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Stumbling toward a working MSR...

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    Trying to decode... did you not just use the pre-built generic amd64 container? You probably should not be building an OS container and then trying to run Reactor within it.

    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      There is an import button with the QNAP Container Station but it only imports from the NAS or the local computer and I could not figure out how to get the toggledbits/reactor:latest-generic-amd64 file to my local computer so I tried the Bare-Metal build on containers running various Linux versions.

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        I'm not a QNAP user/owner but from what I was able to see in some searching, where you search for packages in Container Station (at Create Container), if you do a search for "Reactor" it should give you a list of QNAP-recommended results, which will be nothing of course because they nothing about MSR, but there should be a "Docker Hub" tab you can click, and it should be listed there as toggledbits/reactor.

        Ref: https://youtu.be/yblN8XabE1M?t=201 (watch from marked start to 3:57)

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          After that, your next challenge is to get all the container settings right. For the container to work, it needs:

          1. Network operating mode
          2. Environment variables
          3. Volumes mounted

          Working from the Create Container dialog, leave Auto Start on and most of the other defaults; it doesn't appear like anything needs to be changed (we'll find out if that's right or not)... click Advanced Settings to get to the good stuff.

          In Advanced Settings, go to Network and select "Bridge" "Host".

          On the Environment tab, you will need to set TZ to your timezone, selecting from this list (try not to use the red ones). You may find some other environment variables already set up (e.g. REACTOR_HOME=/opt/reactor, REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX=/var/reactor) -- DO NOT change these (ever). The only one you should set/change is TZ.

          On the Shared Folder tab, you will need to map the container's /var/reactor directory to a subdirectory on the NAS (which you must create) to store MSR's configuration and data files. So the "Volume from host" is the directory you create, and the "Mount Point" must be exactly /var/reactor, and both read and write must be enabled.

          You should then be able to start the container. You should immediately observe that the directory you created for config and data is populated with some folders and files. You should then be able to access the UI by going to http://assigned-ip-address:8111/

          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            It is a good thing containers don't cost anything.
            I tried TZ=-800 and TZ=America/Los_Angeles and neither worked so I checked the QNAP box time and it was off by a bit and not updating so I fixed that and the Reactor status error is gone.
            The network setting for the container is Host. NAT and Bridge did not work.
            The top file share line did not work but the second one did.
            All seems to be working now so I can start learning MSR.
            Thanks for the help.

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              It is a good thing containers don't cost anything.
              I tried TZ=-800 and TZ=America/Los_Angeles and neither worked so I checked the QNAP box time and it was off by a bit and not updating so I fixed that and the Reactor status error is gone.
              The network setting for the container is Host. NAT and Bridge did not work.
              The top file share line did not work but the second one did.
              All seems to be working now so I can start learning MSR.
              Thanks for the help.

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              @tom_d said in Stumbling toward a working MSR...:

              The top file share line did not work but the second one did.

              Not sure what you mean here. I think you are seeing things that I cannot (no QNAP, just working from docs and YT vids).

              Can you screen shot and post all of your "Advanced Settings"? I'll use that info to update the docs.

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                @tom_d said in Stumbling toward a working MSR...:

                The top file share line did not work but the second one did.

                Not sure what you mean here. I think you are seeing things that I cannot (no QNAP, just working from docs and YT vids).

                Can you screen shot and post all of your "Advanced Settings"? I'll use that info to update the docs.

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                @toggledbits
                2-Reactor  Pick the correct reactor.png 3-amd64  Get this version.png 4-noliability.png 1-Create Search for reactor.png 2-Reactor  Pick the correct reactor.png 3-amd64  Get this version.png 4-noliability.png Step1-Create shared folder.png

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                  @tom_d said in Stumbling toward a working MSR...:

                  The top file share line did not work but the second one did.

                  Not sure what you mean here. I think you are seeing things that I cannot (no QNAP, just working from docs and YT vids).

                  Can you screen shot and post all of your "Advanced Settings"? I'll use that info to update the docs.

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                  @toggledbits 5b-create  Select Advanced settings before hitting create.png 6-ENV Add TZ.png 7-Device No changes..png 5a-create  Select Advanced settings before hitting create.png 5b-create  Select Advanced settings before hitting create.png 6-ENV Add TZ.png 7-Device No changes..png 8-Share  Create shared folder before starting container creation.  See Step1.png

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                    @tom_d said in Stumbling toward a working MSR...:

                    The top file share line did not work but the second one did.

                    Not sure what you mean here. I think you are seeing things that I cannot (no QNAP, just working from docs and YT vids).

                    Can you screen shot and post all of your "Advanced Settings"? I'll use that info to update the docs.

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                    @toggledbits OK. I think all the images are here. They are numbered with comments as part of the names. I can send you a zip file if that helps at all.
                    10-Summary - hit OK.png 11-Overview.png 9-Share  hit the create button.png 10-Summary - hit OK.png 11-Overview.png 12-container.png

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                      Updating MSR in a QNAP container is a bit of a process. The container needs to be stopped and then the image deleted in GUI. Create a new container will all the same settings as the original and you should get the new image.

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                        Yes, seems to be a limitation of the QNAP GUI. On Synology, for example, one can re-download the image, "clear" the existing container, and then restart it, and the container starts from the updated image. The QNAP limitation seems to be widely discussed (lots of search results), but little in terms of solutions other than what you are doing. There is one reference I found to the GUI creating a docker-compose file in a special location on the NAS, which would theoretically make it possible to do command line update using docker pull and some other (unknown) commands, but not having a QNAP NAS, it's not something I can dig into. A later part of the discussion suggested this compose file is no longer created/used, but again, I can't verify any of that.

                        Ref: https://github.com/qnap-dev/container-apps/issues/53

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                          Once you have been through the process a few times it goes pretty fast. I'll get more practice as versions of MSR are released.

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