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[SOLVED] All Modes not visible in MSR 21337 from Hubitat

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    Try "Night" (capital N)... case matters to Hubitat

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      Try "Night" (capital N)... case matters to Hubitat

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      @toggledbits When it is time for the house to go into night there is an Alexa routine that flips a virtual switch. This is the sole trigger and the result is the running of a Reaction.

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      This has been unchanged.

      At the end of the reaction is a :10 delay and the virtual switch flips back off again (for next time.) That's it. Nothing fancy. All of these steps are working except for the mode actually changing to night.

      This has worked for MONTHS untouched. I'm literally watching it step thru here:

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      *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

      *HASS 2025.6.0
      w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
      MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
      MQTTController: 25139
      ZWave Controller: 25139

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        @toggledbits When it is time for the house to go into night there is an Alexa routine that flips a virtual switch. This is the sole trigger and the result is the running of a Reaction.

        3f86e866-4a46-485e-9644-1aa84f67f559-image.png

        This has been unchanged.

        At the end of the reaction is a :10 delay and the virtual switch flips back off again (for next time.) That's it. Nothing fancy. All of these steps are working except for the mode actually changing to night.

        This has worked for MONTHS untouched. I'm literally watching it step thru here:

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        @gwp1 Ok, this is very odd. I can change the mode in this reaction to any other mode but night and it works. Put it back to night as the outcome and nada.

        *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

        *HASS 2025.6.0
        w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
        MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
        MQTTController: 25139
        ZWave Controller: 25139

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            @gwp1 Ok, this is very odd. I can change the mode in this reaction to any other mode but night and it works. Put it back to night as the outcome and nada.

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            @gwp1 Please show the entity detail for the "Mode" entity (Entities list).

            Also, try setting "Night" from the Entities list actions. And grab logs for the action if it doesn't change.

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              @gwp1 Please show the entity detail for the "Mode" entity (Entities list).

              Also, try setting "Night" from the Entities list actions. And grab logs for the action if it doesn't change.

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              @toggledbits This is odd. Wouldn't I expect to see all the modes listed under x_hubitat_sys_mode.modes={"Day":1}?

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              Tried setting Night from the Entities list actions. Nada.

              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.111Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:793> Rule#rule-kphozuch Upstairs bulb requesting eval; entity-changed from Entity#hubitat>55
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.112Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:793> Rule#rule-komaz8fr Upstairs motion requesting eval; entity-changed from Entity#hubitat>55
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.113Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1005> Rule#rule-kphozuch (Upstairs bulb) evaluate() acquiring mutex
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.114Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1005> Rule#rule-komaz8fr (Upstairs motion) evaluate() acquiring mutex
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.120Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1009> Rule#rule-kphozuch._evaluate() mutex acquired, evaluating
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.121Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1013> Rule#rule-kphozuch update rate is 0/min limit 60/min
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.122Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:936> Rule#rule-kphozuch evaluateExpressions() with 0 expressions
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.124Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1033> Rule#rule-kphozuch._evaluate() trigger state now false (was false)
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.125Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1035> Rule#rule-kphozuch._evaluate() constraints state true
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.127Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1044> Rule#rule-kphozuch rule state now false, changed no
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.131Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1009> Rule#rule-komaz8fr._evaluate() mutex acquired, evaluating
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.133Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1013> Rule#rule-komaz8fr update rate is 0/min limit 60/min
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.134Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:936> Rule#rule-komaz8fr evaluateExpressions() with 0 expressions
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.136Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1033> Rule#rule-komaz8fr._evaluate() trigger state now false (was false)
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.137Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1035> Rule#rule-komaz8fr._evaluate() constraints state true
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:03.139Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1044> Rule#rule-komaz8fr rule state now false, changed no
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:46.427Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:793> Rule#rule-grpoix7c2a Office On/Off requesting eval; entity-changed from Entity#hubitat>51
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:46.429Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1005> Rule#rule-grpoix7c2a (Office On/Off) evaluate() acquiring mutex
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:46.431Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1009> Rule#rule-grpoix7c2a._evaluate() mutex acquired, evaluating
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:46.432Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1013> Rule#rule-grpoix7c2a update rate is 2/min limit 60/min
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:46.433Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:936> Rule#rule-grpoix7c2a evaluateExpressions() with 0 expressions
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:46.436Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1033> Rule#rule-grpoix7c2a._evaluate() trigger state now false (was false)
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:46.437Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1035> Rule#rule-grpoix7c2a._evaluate() constraints state true
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:46.439Z <Rule:5:Rule.js:1044> Rule#rule-grpoix7c2a rule state now false, changed no
              [latest-21337]2021-12-04T16:45:46.673Z <HubitatController:null> HubitatController#hubitat final action path for x_hubitat_sys_mode.set on Entity#hubitat>sys_mode: http://192.168.1.214/apps/api/14/modes/Night

              *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
              *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

              *HASS 2025.6.0
              w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

              *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
              MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
              MQTTController: 25139
              ZWave Controller: 25139

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                According to the entity, the only mode that exists on the hub is Day. Log in to your hub and check the Modes screen. If that agrees, something happened to your hub (firmware upgrade to latest new version recently?).

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                  According to the entity, the only mode that exists on the hub is Day. Log in to your hub and check the Modes screen. If that agrees, something happened to your hub (firmware upgrade to latest new version recently?).

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                  @toggledbits d5562d84-24e6-4aa8-bc58-65555ab8caff-image.png

                  Latest release to 2.3.0.115 on Hubitat. Rolling back to .113 to see what happens.

                  *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
                  *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                  *HASS 2025.6.0
                  w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                  *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                  MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
                  MQTTController: 25139
                  ZWave Controller: 25139

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                    @toggledbits d5562d84-24e6-4aa8-bc58-65555ab8caff-image.png

                    Latest release to 2.3.0.115 on Hubitat. Rolling back to .113 to see what happens.

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                    @gwp1 Rolled back to .113, saw this:

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                    When the restore was done it was in Evening because that's where it was when the release was deployed and backup taken.

                    Did a Tools > Restart on MSR to ensure everything was synced and now I see this again:

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                    *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
                    *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                    *HASS 2025.6.0
                    w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                    *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                    MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
                    MQTTController: 25139
                    ZWave Controller: 25139

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                      Are you on their latest firmware?

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                        Are you on their latest firmware?

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                        @toggledbits Well I was until apparently an hour ago lol Seems there's .116 out now. Also, rolling back apparently doesn't restore the old firmware to .113 like I thought it would. I'm still on .115. Guess I'll fail forward to .116.

                        *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
                        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                        *HASS 2025.6.0
                        w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                        MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
                        MQTTController: 25139
                        ZWave Controller: 25139

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                          @toggledbits Well I was until apparently an hour ago lol Seems there's .116 out now. Also, rolling back apparently doesn't restore the old firmware to .113 like I thought it would. I'm still on .115. Guess I'll fail forward to .116.

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                          @gwp1 On Hubitat's latest, .116. No change.

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                          Following my Rule#1 of troubleshooting, "what changed?" I rolled back MSR to 21332 (because I'd just updated to 21337) just in case and now I see this:

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                          Things are behaving as they should. Using the Entities menu I triggered mode night and it flipped over (only to flip back to day as it should because it's day time - but I watched it three times visibly flip to the correct mode.)

                          *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
                          *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                          *HASS 2025.6.0
                          w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                          *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                          MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
                          MQTTController: 25139
                          ZWave Controller: 25139

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                            Yup, and I think I see the issue... stay tuned...

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                              OK. 21338

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                                OK. 21338

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                                @toggledbits Yep - all good! Thanks Patrick, I'll mark this as solved. Appreciate it.

                                *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
                                *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                                *HASS 2025.6.0
                                w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                                *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                                MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
                                MQTTController: 25139
                                ZWave Controller: 25139

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                                  Thanks for doing the footwork, being the hands and eyes! Sorry for the trouble. Onward!

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