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DynamicGroupController and attributes
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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Edit: Solved in latest-26221. Bare-metal latest-26193 I have this group: "OKforLarm": name: OK för Larm select: - include_controller: vera - include_capability: door_sensor filter_expression: entity.attributes.door_sensor.state It contains the entities I expect but behaves a bit odd. When I open vera>device_10097 the entity attribute door_sensor.state changes to true but it won't show up as member in the group, when I also open vera>device_10095 they both shows as members and when I close vera>device_10095 it disappear from the group but when I close vera>device_10097 it lingers in the group until I restart Reactor.
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
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Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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I'm currently on version 26011. I understand that the aarch64 image is no longer supported. So, I therefore need to update to the ARM64 image. Can anyone possibly suggest how I update my docker compose.yaml file (see below). Ideally I'd like to keep my existing reactions etc. rather than start from scratch. # Multi-System Reactor template docker-compose.yml (version 22160) # # Change the lines indicated by "DO"... # services: reactor: container_name: reactor environment: # DO change the TZ: line to set your local time zone. # See valid TZ list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones TZ: GB # # DO NOT change this path. Your directory location is in "source" below. REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX: /var/reactor # DO change the image below to the one you are using (e.g. armv7l or aarch64 for RPi 4) image: toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64 restart: "always" expose: - 8111 ports: - 8111:8111 volumes: # DO change the /home/username/reactor below to the directory you created for # your local data; DO NOT change the /var/reactor part - /home/pi/docker/reactor:/var/reactor - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro tmpfs: /tmp
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MSR: run for two hours based on a condition, then wait 4 hours after the reset evaluating again

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    I'm on vacation and finally moving a couple of scenes from Vera luup to MSR. So far, so good, even if I'll need more time to practice.

    One thing that I'm actually doing is to run a dehumidifier with this logic:

    • run between 7 and 23 only
    • and if the temperature is below 10 C and humidity is >= 70

    This is the easy part. The other thing I do is to run the dehum for 2 hours and then wait 4 hours before running it again. I'm too newbie to this and can't figure it out how to properly build this condition, without messing or overcomplicating things.

    Any hint is appreciated 🙂 Thanks.

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    • therealdbT therealdb

      I'm on vacation and finally moving a couple of scenes from Vera luup to MSR. So far, so good, even if I'll need more time to practice.

      One thing that I'm actually doing is to run a dehumidifier with this logic:

      • run between 7 and 23 only
      • and if the temperature is below 10 C and humidity is >= 70

      This is the easy part. The other thing I do is to run the dehum for 2 hours and then wait 4 hours before running it again. I'm too newbie to this and can't figure it out how to properly build this condition, without messing or overcomplicating things.

      Any hint is appreciated 🙂 Thanks.

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      @therealdb I find the easiest way to do runs of fixed cycles is to use "pulse" output mode with a repeat. You can do that on an individual condition, but most often I seem to have several conditions at work, so I'll put the pulse output on a group that contains the other conditions. You set the pulse for the length of time that you want a run, and when you choose "repeat" it will ask for the break length (time between pulses). These are in seconds, so your 2h-on-4h-off example would be a pulse of 7200 seconds with a break of 14400 seconds.

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        @therealdb I find the easiest way to do runs of fixed cycles is to use "pulse" output mode with a repeat. You can do that on an individual condition, but most often I seem to have several conditions at work, so I'll put the pulse output on a group that contains the other conditions. You set the pulse for the length of time that you want a run, and when you choose "repeat" it will ask for the break length (time between pulses). These are in seconds, so your 2h-on-4h-off example would be a pulse of 7200 seconds with a break of 14400 seconds.

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        @toggledbits When using pulse does it do a re-eval of the triggers to see if the reaction should be run again or will it simply rerun the reaction again?

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          @therealdb I find the easiest way to do runs of fixed cycles is to use "pulse" output mode with a repeat. You can do that on an individual condition, but most often I seem to have several conditions at work, so I'll put the pulse output on a group that contains the other conditions. You set the pulse for the length of time that you want a run, and when you choose "repeat" it will ask for the break length (time between pulses). These are in seconds, so your 2h-on-4h-off example would be a pulse of 7200 seconds with a break of 14400 seconds.

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          @toggledbits that seems to do the trick. thanks for the help!

          I'll probably have more questions in the coming days, since I'm slowly moving all the logic not involving too much code to MSR.
          If I may suggest something for newcomers, blueprints could be a great start. I'm sure it's in your roadmap anyway.

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            @toggledbits When using pulse does it do a re-eval of the triggers to see if the reaction should be run again or will it simply rerun the reaction again?

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            @gwp1 said in MSR: run for two hours based on a condition, then wait 4 hours after the reset evaluating again:

            @toggledbits When using pulse does it do a re-eval of the triggers to see if the reaction should be run again or will it simply rerun the reaction again?

            Well, in a manner of speaking. You're thinking about it backwards, I think. It doesn't need to re-evaluate conditions at the pulse time because the condition state is always up to date, being updated when events within them occur. But I think it works as you would expect: as long as the underlying condition is true, the pulses continue; when the condition is no longer true, no more pulses.

            Whether the reactions run depends on the other logic involved, but if we take the simplest case with the only condition in the rule being a repeating pulsed condition, then the rule will set at the start of the pulse (and run the Set reaction), reset at the end of the pulse (and run the Reset reaction), and repeat those reactions for each pulse.

            Ref: https://reactor.toggledbits.com/docs/Condition-Options/#output-control-options

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