Hi guys,
Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular.
Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets.
I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.
I have installed MSR on a RP5 bare metal and then copied the config and store files. Everything seems to be on the RP5 but I am missing all global expression and I don't see the controller time.
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My browser is Microsoft Edge Version 135.0.3179.54 (Official build) (64-bit)
I have probably done something stupid or missed a step but I am stuck.
Thanks for any help.
Hi,
It seems that the widget deletion does not work. I tried to drag the widget to the left (as explained in here https://smarthome.community/topic/1071/deleting-widgets?_=1744037333660)
but it does not delete it. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?
Also the landing page after login is empty and seems be have some JS issues on the dev console:
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Using dockerized version of Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25082-3c348de6 on Chromium 135.0.7049.52 (Official Build) snap (64-bit)
br,
mgvra
Good day all,
I have an notification set up for my washing machine to let me know when it's complete. I have a templete sensor set up in HAAS to let me know if it's Washing, in Standby, or off, based upon the power consumption (Shelly 1PM on outlets)
The MSR code is relatively simple. I have a built in false positive attribute for if MSR gets rebooted, because I would suddenly get tons of notifications when I upgraded MSR.
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What I'm trying to introduce, is a way to verify that I just didn't bump the knob on the washing machine when transferring loads from the washer to the dryer, which turns on the display and brings the power above the Standby threshold.
The power goes up to 3.7W for about 4 minutes if the selector knob is bumped/turned.
What would the best way to do this be? I have most of my MSR code set up for a couple of years now, and my coding logic is struggling a bit.
I think I need a power threshold to be substained for a minimum time period (say 2 or 3 minutes, above 10W), before the other triggers can act. What would the best way to do that be?
Running: latest-25082-3c348de6
Fedora 41 Server
HAAS:
Core
2025.3.4
Supervisor
2025.03.4
Operating System
15.1
Frontend
20250306.0
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.
Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file
x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }'While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?
Hi!
I get this message when I'm on the status tab:
System Configuration Check
The time on this system and on the Reactor host are significantly different. This may be due to incorrect system configuration on either or both. Please check the configuration of both systems. The host reports 2025-04-01T15:29:29.252Z; browser reports 2025-04-01T15:29:40.528Z; difference 11.276 seconds.
I have MSR installed as a docker on my Home Assistant Blue / Hardkernel ODROID-N2/N2+. MSR version is latest-25082-3c348de6.
HA versions are:
Core 2025.3.4
Supervisor 2025.03.4
Operating System 15.1
I have restarted HA as well as MSR multiple times. This message didn´t show two weeks ago. Don´t know if it have anything to do with the latest MSR version.
Do anyone know what I can try?
Thanks in advance!
Let's Be Careful Out There (Hill Street reference...) 🙂
/Fanan
I have a very strange situation, where if InfluxDB restarts, other containers may fail when restarting at the same time (under not easy to understand circumstances), and InfluxDB remains unreachable (and these containers crashes). I need to reboot these containers in an exact order, after rebooting InfluxDB.
While I understand what's going on, I need a way to reliable determine that InfluxDB is not reachable and these containers are not reachable, in order to identify this situation and manually check what's going on - and, maybe, in the future, automatically restart them if needed.
So, I was looking at HTTP Request action, but I need to capture the HTTP response code, instead of the response (becase if ping is OK, InfluxDB will reply with a 204), and, potentially, a way to programmatically detect that it's failing to get the response.
While I could write a custom HTTP controller for this or a custom HTTP virtual device, I was wondering if this is somewhat on you roadmap @toggledbits
Thanks!
Hi ,
I'm on
-Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25067-62e21a2d
-Docker on Synology NAS
-ZWaveJSUI 9.31.0.6c80945
Problem with ZwaveJSUI:
When I try to change color to a bulb RGBWW, it doesn't change to the RGB color and the bulb remains warm or cold white.
I tryed with Zipato RGBW Bulb V2 RGBWE2, Hank Bulb HKZW-RGB01, Aentec 6 A-ZWA002, so seems that it happens with all RGBWW bulb with reactor/zwavejsui.
I'm using from reator the entity action: "rgb_color.set" and "rgb_color.set_rgb".
After I send the reactor command, It changes in zwavejsui the rgb settings but doesn't put the white channel to "0", so the prevalent channel remains warm/cold White and the bulb doesn't change into the rgb color.
This is the status of the bulb in zwavejsui after "rgb_color.set" (235,33,33,) and the bulb is still warmWhite.
x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor={"warmWhite":204,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}The "cold white" and "warm white" settings interfer with the rgb color settings.
Reactor can change bulb colors with rgb_color set — (value, ui8, 0x000000 to 0xffffff) or rgb_color set_rgb — (red, green, blue, all ui1, 0 to 255) but if warm or cold white
are not to "0", zwavejsui doesn't change them and I can't find a way to change into rgb or from rgb back to warm white.
So if I use from reactor: rgb_color set_rgb — (235,33,33) in zwavejsui I have
x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: targetColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: targetColor 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: currentColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: currentColorIn zwavejsui, the bulb changes rgb set but warm White remains to "204" and the bulb remais on warm White channel bacause is prevalent on rgb set.
x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_0=204 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_1=0 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_2=235 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_3=33 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_4=33Is it possible to targetColor also for "warmWhite" and "coldWhite" and have something similar to this?
x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"warmWhite":0,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}Thanks in advance.
Good day all,
I have a reaction set up, that I use for both troubleshooting and changing home modes when one of my family members either arrive or are leaving. I use the companion app for HAAS on our iPhones, and HAAS reports if the person associated with the iPhone enters or leaves the geofenced area around my home. I'm sure most MSR and HAAS users are familiar with this.
I use this rule set mainly as a condition for other rules, however, as part of troubleshooting, a notification is sent through HAAS to the companion app when the rule becomes true. The problem is that I'm getting notifications now for both arriving and departing simultaneously.
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36903cdd-a87f-473b-82ef-af9ef96d3c44-image.png It used to work fine as intended. I'm not sure exactly when it changed, but now I'm getting two notifications when either of these conditions change.
Any idea what could be happening?
Edit:
Running: latest-25082-3c348de6, bare-metal Linux
ZWaveJSControllerr [0.1.25082]
MSR had been running fine, but I decided to follow the message to upgrade to 25067. Since the upgrade, I have received the message "Controller "<name>" (HubitatController hubitat2) could not be loaded at startup. Its ID is not unique." MSR throws the message on every restart. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
I am running MSR on a Raspberry Pi4 connecting to two Hubitat units over an OpenVPN tunnel. One C8 and a C8 Pro. Both are up-to-date. It appears that despite the error message that MSR may be operating properly.
Similarly as for local expressions, global expressions evaluate and update fine when getEntity(...) structure is used. However, at least when certain functions are in use, expressions do not update.
Consider the following test case:
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Even though auto-evaluation is active, value does not change (it changes only if that expression is manually run). MSR restarts do not help.
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Note: Tested using build 25067 on Docker. I have also a PR open (but couldn't now get details or PR number as my Mantis account was somehow expired?).
Trying to understand what cause a local expresssion to be evaluated. I have read the manual but I am still not clear about it. Using the test rule below, I can see in the log that the rule is being automatically evaluated every time the temperature entity is changing. That is great...
What I am trying to understand is why the expression is not evaluated based on time as well since the "case" statement has time dependencies.
Any help would be appreciated
I have the following test rule:
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Here is the expressioncode:
vFrom1 = "09:25:00", vFrom2 = "09:30:00", vFrom3 = "09:41:00", vTo = "10:55:00", # Get current time (format HH:MM:SS) vToDay = strftime("%H:%M:%S"), #Get current house temperature CurrentHouseTemp = getEntity( "hass>Thermostat2 " ).attributes.temperature_sensor.value, case when CurrentHouseTemp <= 19 and vToDay >= vFrom1 && vToDay <= vTo: "true1" # From1 when CurrentHouseTemp <= 20 and vToDay >= vFrom2 && vToDay <= vTo: "true2" # From2 when CurrentHouseTemp < 26 and vToDay >= vFrom3 && vToDay <= vTo: "true3" # From3 else "false" endI am getting a Runtime error on different browsers when I click exit when editing an existing or creating a new global reaction containing a group. If the global reaction does not have a group I don't get an error. I see a similar post on the forum about a Runtime Error when creating reactions but started a new thread as that appears to be solved.
The Runtime Error is different in the two browsers
Safari v18.3
Google Chrome 133.0.6943.142
TypeError: self.editor.isModified is not a function at HTMLButtonElement.<anonymous> (http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:34) You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.Steps to reproduce:
Click the pencil to edit a global reaction with a group.
Click the Exit button.
Runtime error appears.
or
Click Create Reaction
Click Add Action
Select Group
Add Condition such as Entity Attribute.
Add an Action.
Click Save
Click Exit
Runtime error appears.
I don’t know how long the error has been there as I haven’t edited the global reaction in a long time.
Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25060-f32eaa46
Docker
Mac OS: 15.3.1
Thanks
I am trying to delete a global expression (gLightDelay) but for some strange reason, it comes back despite clicking the Delete this expression and Save Changes buttons.
I have not created a global expression for some times and just noticed this while doing some clean-up.
I have upgraded Reactor to 25067 from 25060 and the behaviour is still there. I have restarted Reactor (as well as restarting its container) and cleared the browser's cache several times without success.
Here's what the log shows.
[latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:22.690Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:26.254Z <GlobalExpression:NOTICE> Deleting global expression gLightDelay [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:27.887Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" }Reactor latest-25067-62e21a2d
Docker on Synology NAS
Morning, experts. Hard on learning about the internet check script in MSR tools, I was wondering what suggestions anyone has about a local (i.e. non-internet dependent) notification method.
This was prompted by yesterday's fun and games with my ISP.
I've got the script Cronned and working properly but short of flashing a light on and off, I'm struggling to think of a way of alerting me (ideally to my phone)
I guess I could set up a Discord server at home, but that feels like overkill for a rare occasion. Any other suggestions?
TIA
C
Hi,
I'm trying to integrate the sonos-mqtt (https://sonos2mqtt.svrooij.io/) with the MSR and it's coming along nicely so far.
But cannot wrap my head around how to define custom capabilities in MQTT templates. I need this for the TTS announcements and similarly for the notification sounds where I would pass the sound file as parameter.
So this is what I have in the local_mqtt_devices.yaml
capabilities: x_sonos_announcement: attributes: actions: speak: arguments: text: type: string volume: type: int delay: type: intAnd this is the template:
templates: sonos-announcement: capabilities: - x_sonos_announcement actions: x_sonos_announcement: speak: topic: "sonos/cmd/speak" payload: expr: > { "text": parameters.text, "volume": parameters.volume, "delayMs": parameters.delay, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" } type: jsonSo the speak action should send something like this to topic sonos/cmd/speak
{ "text": "message goes here", "volume": 50, "delayMs": 100, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" }At startup the MSR seems to be quite unhappy with my configuration:
reactor | [latest-25016]2025-02-09T08:19:59.029Z <MQTTController:WARN> MQTTController#mqtt entity Entity#mqtt>sonos-announcement unable to configure capabilities [Array][ "x_sonos_announcement" ] reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} has unrecognized capability {1:q} in actions reactor | Trace: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:611:28) reactor | at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:125:25) reactor | at MQTTController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:627:30) reactor | at MQTTController.start (/var/reactor/ext/MQTTController/MQTTController.js:268:26) reactor | at async Promise.allSettled (index 0) Configuration for "sonos-announcement" has unrecognized capability "x_sonos_announcement" in actions Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM Configuration for "sonos-announcement" is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: x_sonos_announcement Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AMThis is probably a pretty stupid question and the approach may not even work at all, but maybe someone or @toggledbits for sure, could point me to the right direction.
Basically the idea is to be able to send TTS messages from reactions using entity actions. I've previously used HTTP requests to Sonos HTTP API (https://hub.docker.com/r/chrisns/docker-node-sonos-http-api/) for the same functionality, but since moving to sonos-mqtt, I need a way to send the TTS notifications using MQTTController. Along with the actual message, volume and delay must also be parameterizable.
br,
mgvra
MSR latest-25016-d47fea38 / MQTTController [0.2.24293]
Hi, @toggledbits
I just noticed that following a reboot of my raspberry pi, some of the rules, that I was expecting to recover, are not catching up following a reboot. I have made a simple test rule (rule-m6rz6ol1) with only "after Date/time" as trigger and "turn on a lamp" as a set reaction. All my infrastructure is on the same board so Reactor, Hass, Zwavejs, ... are all rebooting.
Here is the sequence of the test case (All time converted to Zulu to match logs):
Rule "after Date/Time" set to 14:05:00z Shutdown on Raspberry Pi at 14:04:00z Power back up at 14:08:00z Rule overview shows true as of 14:08:14z waiting for 00:00:00 in GUIFrom the log I can see that MSR is picking up the rule and knows that the state of the rule has changed from false to true and tries to send the update to HASS but failed with websocket error.
Here is what I see from the log:
14:04:04z shutdown complete 14:08:08z Power up 14:08:13.111z websocket connection 14:08:15:323z Reaction to the light failed, Websocket not opened After there is a series of websocket connection attempt until 14:08:51z where it seemed to be really ready.Back in 2021 we had a discussion (https://smarthome.community/topic/700/solved-start-up?_=1738766986566) and you proposed to add a startup_delay:xxxx and startup_wait:xxxx parameter in the engine section of "reactor.yaml". When I try the startup_delay (this used to be a hard delay), the engine failed to start (I think). I then try the startup_wait:xxxx without any success. Since it wait for the connection status to be up to cancel the delay, it does not do anyting since Hass is reporting the socket up without really being up ( I think...).
Questions:
Did I figured it all wrong? should the startup_delay:xxxxx have worked? Any ideas?Here is the log:
OK now I am stuck. I did add the log but when I submit the editor complained saying that I am limited to 32767 characters. The log from the shutdown to the time the websocket is stable is about 300000 character long. What are my options?
Not a big issue simply a request if easily doable.
The MSR logs files inside the container are owned by root witch is fine however, the permissions are very restrictive. I do not know if there is something wrong with my installation but the logs permission are set to 222 (write only). Even if the docker volume is set for Read/Write the log files are retaining these values.
I go around the problem by doing a chmod 777 on all reactor logs but every time there is an MSR log rotation the permissions are set back to 222. So unless the permission are implemented in the container there is no permanent solution to this (that I know of).
I do not know much about Docker container so I do not know what is involved here.
Can the logfiles permission be simply chaged in the container to at least allow "other" read permission?
Could the MSR log rotation routine implement a chmod to set the permission?
Just a small anoyance
Thanks
[Solved] Big change in my system - How to update MSR as best as possible?
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I just gave up waiting for the HASS Z-wave.me integration to finish, and set up Zwave JS UI instead. In the same operation, all zigbee and 433 devices was moved from openluup to HASS as well, so all devices now have a new address.
I thought I saw some "replace device" function in MSR earlier, but now I didnt find it?
I've done a lot of the changes manually now, and removed openluup as a system, but at every restart I still get the warning/errors about the old units. I assume it's because rules ask for them? This is where that "replace this with this" would come in handy..
Right now, my problem is that the rules i did update doesn't pull any levers in HASS. If I go in and run the action line in the rule manually, it works, but only with the arrow button on the actual action, not the common arrow button in "set reaction".
Any tips/hints on making this transition easier is much appreciated.
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Posting guidelines, please.
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Sorry about that, I just had a slight hope for a "you just forgot to push that button" kind of answer..
In any case, I cleaned out my rules over the board and updated the MSR image, and now it's running like a charm..
For future reference, is there in fact a "this entity is now gone from the system, choose a replacement" function, or did i just dream that one? If not, it would be a great addition!
Again, a big thankyou to @toggledbits for sharing this great machine!
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I've found that this odd behavior if reactions won't run with triggers, nor the button above the reaction, but will with the button to the right of each individual action,..... Then it needs updating.
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@cadwizzard I have notised that myself. Probably by design, and the reason I left MSR.
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@matohl
My biggest concern is that this happens without me knowing in future and all sorts of things break if i'm away and I have guests looking after the house (including my heating system which is entirely smart home controlled with logic in MSR!)And how to build MSR logic to alert if the triggers don't run?
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@matohl said in [Solved] Big change in my system - How to update MSR as best as possible?:
@cadwizzard I have notised that myself. Probably by design, and the reason I left MSR.
Which exactly is by design?
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@Matohl - If you're thinking about when the only way to make actions happen is the "play" button next to each individual action, I really doubt that its by design, nor being an automated way to say that an update is available. My system had a cascade of dead entities, and I suspect that had something to do with it.
The proper thing to do in that case is to save logs/setup files and open a mantis ticket, just like I didn't here.
That how bugs disappear. -
@PerH
I think MSR is great (came from many years of reactor in Vera), but we never saw this behaviour there. I actually miss the easy way to check for and install updates from the UI in Vera a lot, it has an easy way to pull new databases, and hopefully this will come to MSR. I've seen someone ask for it already. Even a check & warning that there is an update needed would be a great step. MSR checks for HA version compatibility ready, so should be possible)
When this happened to me, it was from an install that i'd done a while ago setting up HASS, but had never added any Zwave devices (or any other integrations). I added a first device onto the zwave network (simple double boiler switch) and began testing the automations and that MSR worked before getting into a huge amount of logic work. It was then I first saw the issue, before there was hardly anything system wise that could have gone wrong or dead etc. -
@cadwizzard Set this thread to send you notifications. That's where @toggledbits posts all release announcements.
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Next build will have update notices. It's already done.
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Which exactly is by design?
For me ”by design” is a behavior that is intended by the creator witch means it’s in the design.
Well, suddenly one day all automations didin’t work anymore. I was way behind updating the MSR updates (I guess +150 days or something) because everything was working as it should and I didn’t se the need for updating. I realised that I was not alone but the thread is lost for me now.
So, I had the impression that after a certain time the automations in MSR, if not updated, it will stop to function ”by design” . My guess was that (I could be wrong, that happens) that is probably ”by design” in the code by the creator to force the user to upgrade and not have to deal with questions about old versions. I’m fine with that, it is the creators code, but I can not have something at in my home that suddenly stops working for this reason.
This got me thinking about my options and I went in an another direction. Don’t get me wrong I really like MSR but I’m not there anymore. -
@matohl This is my opinion only, let me say that.
I believe it is unrealistic to expect a piece of software to NOT change and grow and improve as new technologies and approaches for coding are discovered and implemented - and as that happens legacy functionality would be deprecated and replaced by something else.
The only way "one day all automations didn't work" happens is if something is changed. If I'm reading the OP correctly, other elements were changed that weren't in place when the older version of MSR was installed thus creating an incompatibility. That's not the fault of MSR. To believe that "after a certain time the automations in MSR, if not updated, will stop to function" if nothing else in the chain has changed (ie dependencies) is woefully inaccurate.
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@matohl said in [Solved] Big change in my system - How to update MSR as best as possible?:
So, I had the impression that after a certain time the automations in MSR, if not updated, it will stop to function ”by design” . My guess was that (I could be wrong, that happens) that is probably ”by design” in the code by the creator to force the user to upgrade and not have to deal with questions about old versions. I’m fine with that, it is the creators code, but I can not have something at in my home that suddenly stops working for this reason.
I am absolutely, 100% sure that is NOT the case. But as you say, you've moved on.
C
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@perh said in [Solved] Big change in my system - How to update MSR as best as possible?:
this entity is now gone from the system, choose a replacemen
If an entity or ruleset is gone that was used in other rulesets, the remaining ruleset will have a yellow triangle next to it and the field for the missing element has
missing?(or something similar to that wording) in it. I don't have any examples atm or I'd shared a screenshot. -
@gwp1 : Yes, I've seen (100s!) of those, no problem there!
I just had this notion that there was some other function in place, where if a device was gone, it would prompt you "This entity is gone, select replacement here", and that this would do replacement of all uses of that entity/device.
To the other discussion:
My problems started when I moved ALL devices to a new system, as in all entity addresses changed.
I have previously been on the same MSR version for long periods of time without any issues, so I very much doubt any "planned obsolesence". -
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