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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
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Sunset with offset didn't run

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    Actually any time I manually turn off the lounge lamps via my Harmony remote it's now firing the MSR rule and turning them back on.

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      @toggledbits as I said your welcome to connect to my laptop and edit the rules for yourself and press a save button to see what happens.

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        I was also the one who had issues saving PLEG changes many years ago and Richard eventually got to the bottom of it and managed to sort out the issue.

        Maybe I have bad luck, but I cannot currently save any MSR rules I modify by adding new triggers or deleting them.

        I am only reporting what I am seeing.

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          It's 2 29 am here now this rule just fired and turned on my lounge lamps.

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          @cw-kid said in Sunset with offset didn't run:

          It's 2 29 am here now this rule just fired and turned on my lounge lamps.

          I think there might be something going on with sunrise/sunset too. Im pretty sure sunset was 90 minutes late triggering for me. Im doing some more testing on that though to confirm.

          @cw-kid said in Sunset with offset didn't run:

          Actually any time I manually turn off the lounge lamps via my Harmony remote it's now firing the MSR rule and turning them back on.

          If your rule is the same as posted above, this is because you have a condition in the rule for the lamp being false, meaning the rule will be false when the lamp is on and then when it goes off, it becomes true again.

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            I'm not saying my rule is correct.

            It most likely isn't

            I wanted to include a check that the turn on lamps rule is only run if the lamps are off in the first place.

            If the lamps are already on then there's no need to have the rule action run.

            So if I've set it up wrong what is the best way to handle this

            I am a Reactor newbie..

            Thanks.

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            • cw-kidC cw-kid

              I'm not saying my rule is correct.

              It most likely isn't

              I wanted to include a check that the turn on lamps rule is only run if the lamps are off in the first place.

              If the lamps are already on then there's no need to have the rule action run.

              So if I've set it up wrong what is the best way to handle this

              I am a Reactor newbie..

              Thanks.

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              @cw-kid said in Sunset with offset didn't run:

              I'm not saying my rule is correct.

              It most likely isn't

              I wanted to include a check that the turn on lamps rule is only run if the lamps are off in the first place.

              If the lamps are already on then there's no need to have the rule action run.

              So if I've set it up wrong what is the best way to handle this

              I am a Reactor newbie..

              Thanks.

              You need to use the constraints. These are new and Im not exactly positive on the answer at this time but I think you would check if the lights are off in the constraint.

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                OK thanks. I was advised not to use Contraints whilst learning MSR.

                Seems I have a learning curve to get over and I apologise for being a pain in the arse for the next few months to everyone in this forum.. 😁

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                  Stop thinking PLEG......It will only frustrate you especially if you are trying to test the status of a device.
                  I'm not sure if you can actually do it as you would in PLEG, yes, I know it's frustrating but to move forward you need to unlearn what you already know.

                  aka Zedrally

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                    Make sure you upgrade to 21050 if you haven't already.

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      #19

                      I have the same issue using a different web browser Microsoft Edge. I added a new trigger to an existing rule and the save buttons aren't clickable.

                      Are there any instructions on how to upgrade to the new version of Reactor for Raspberry Pi ?

                      Thank you

                      I've found the update instructions trying it now.

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                      • cw-kidC cw-kid

                        I have the same issue using a different web browser Microsoft Edge. I added a new trigger to an existing rule and the save buttons aren't clickable.

                        Are there any instructions on how to upgrade to the new version of Reactor for Raspberry Pi ?

                        Thank you

                        I've found the update instructions trying it now.

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                          I'm stuck on the part that says restart reactor. How do I do that ?

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                            #22

                            "node app.js" - if still in trial mode
                            or
                            "nohup ./app.sh &" - if running under script

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                              #23

                              I've messed it up, looks like I have the new reactor installation within the old one, as I now have two reactor folders.

                              32aaf382-ecff-4c3a-b6fe-d83df0dfeb4d-image.png

                              I guess I'll delete the reactor sub-folder and try it again.

                              The date stamps are yesterday though.

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                                Yes you want to be in the folder that holds the reactor folder (documents), when you tar xzvf.... . I found the instructions confusing to.

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                                  Is this command wrong then ? The tar.gz file is located in the /Documents folder.

                                  cd /home/pi/Documents/reactor
                                  tar xzvf /home/pi/Documents/reactor-0.1-21050-f5e9257.tar.gz

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                                    Like that then

                                    cd /home/pi/Documents/
                                    tar xzvf /home/pi/Documents/reactor-0.1-21050-f5e9257.tar.gz

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                                      Yes, that's correct

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                                        OK I am now on version 0.1.21050

                                        Thanks

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                                          OK I just added two new triggers to an existing rule and I can now save OK. So looks like Patrick has fixed it, many thanks.

                                          Now I need to figure out why this sunset rule to turn on my lounge lamps isn't working any tips ?

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