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Advice reqeusted to migrate MSR from Bare Metal to Container
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Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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[Solved] Limit HA Entity in MSR
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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
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Hi guys, Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular. Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets. I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.
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Deleting widgets
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Hopefully a trivial question, but how do you delete widgets in a status page? Using build 22266
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MQTT configuration question
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I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }' While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?
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System Configuration Check - time is offset
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Hi! I get this message when I'm on the status tab: System Configuration Check The time on this system and on the Reactor host are significantly different. This may be due to incorrect system configuration on either or both. Please check the configuration of both systems. The host reports 2025-04-01T15:29:29.252Z; browser reports 2025-04-01T15:29:40.528Z; difference 11.276 seconds. I have MSR installed as a docker on my Home Assistant Blue / Hardkernel ODROID-N2/N2+. MSR version is latest-25082-3c348de6. HA versions are: Core 2025.3.4 Supervisor 2025.03.4 Operating System 15.1 I have restarted HA as well as MSR multiple times. This message didn´t show two weeks ago. Don´t know if it have anything to do with the latest MSR version. Do anyone know what I can try? Thanks in advance! Let's Be Careful Out There (Hill Street reference...) /Fanan
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Programmatically capture HTTP Request action status code or error
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I have a very strange situation, where if InfluxDB restarts, other containers may fail when restarting at the same time (under not easy to understand circumstances), and InfluxDB remains unreachable (and these containers crashes). I need to reboot these containers in an exact order, after rebooting InfluxDB. While I understand what's going on, I need a way to reliable determine that InfluxDB is not reachable and these containers are not reachable, in order to identify this situation and manually check what's going on - and, maybe, in the future, automatically restart them if needed. So, I was looking at HTTP Request action, but I need to capture the HTTP response code, instead of the response (becase if ping is OK, InfluxDB will reply with a 204), and, potentially, a way to programmatically detect that it's failing to get the response. While I could write a custom HTTP controller for this or a custom HTTP virtual device, I was wondering if this is somewhat on you roadmap @toggledbits Thanks!
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ZwaveJSUI - RGBWW BULB - Warm/Cold White interfered with RGB settings - Bulb doesn't change color if in WarmWhite state.
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Hi , I'm on -Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25067-62e21a2d -Docker on Synology NAS -ZWaveJSUI 9.31.0.6c80945 Problem with ZwaveJSUI: When I try to change color to a bulb RGBWW, it doesn't change to the RGB color and the bulb remains warm or cold white. I tryed with Zipato RGBW Bulb V2 RGBWE2, Hank Bulb HKZW-RGB01, Aentec 6 A-ZWA002, so seems that it happens with all RGBWW bulb with reactor/zwavejsui. I'm using from reator the entity action: "rgb_color.set" and "rgb_color.set_rgb". After I send the reactor command, It changes in zwavejsui the rgb settings but doesn't put the white channel to "0", so the prevalent channel remains warm/cold White and the bulb doesn't change into the rgb color. This is the status of the bulb in zwavejsui after "rgb_color.set" (235,33,33,) and the bulb is still warmWhite. x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor={"warmWhite":204,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} The "cold white" and "warm white" settings interfer with the rgb color settings. Reactor can change bulb colors with rgb_color set — (value, ui8, 0x000000 to 0xffffff) or rgb_color set_rgb — (red, green, blue, all ui1, 0 to 255) but if warm or cold white are not to "0", zwavejsui doesn't change them and I can't find a way to change into rgb or from rgb back to warm white. So if I use from reactor: rgb_color set_rgb — (235,33,33) in zwavejsui I have x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: targetColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: targetColor 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: currentColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: currentColor In zwavejsui, the bulb changes rgb set but warm White remains to "204" and the bulb remais on warm White channel bacause is prevalent on rgb set. x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_0=204 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_1=0 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_2=235 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_3=33 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_4=33 Is it possible to targetColor also for "warmWhite" and "coldWhite" and have something similar to this? x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"warmWhite":0,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} Thanks in advance.
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Problem with simultaneous notifications.
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Problem after upgrading to 25067
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MSR had been running fine, but I decided to follow the message to upgrade to 25067. Since the upgrade, I have received the message "Controller "<name>" (HubitatController hubitat2) could not be loaded at startup. Its ID is not unique." MSR throws the message on every restart. Has anyone else encountered this problem? I am running MSR on a Raspberry Pi4 connecting to two Hubitat units over an OpenVPN tunnel. One C8 and a C8 Pro. Both are up-to-date. It appears that despite the error message that MSR may be operating properly.
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Global expressions not always evaluated
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[Solved] Local expression evaluation
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[Solved] Runtime error when exiting global reaction that contains a group
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I am getting a Runtime error on different browsers when I click exit when editing an existing or creating a new global reaction containing a group. If the global reaction does not have a group I don't get an error. I see a similar post on the forum about a Runtime Error when creating reactions but started a new thread as that appears to be solved. The Runtime Error is different in the two browsers Safari v18.3 @http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:44 You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community. Google Chrome 133.0.6943.142 TypeError: self.editor.isModified is not a function at HTMLButtonElement.<anonymous> (http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:34) You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community. Steps to reproduce: Click the pencil to edit a global reaction with a group. Click the Exit button. Runtime error appears. or Click Create Reaction Click Add Action Select Group Add Condition such as Entity Attribute. Add an Action. Click Save Click Exit Runtime error appears. I don’t know how long the error has been there as I haven’t edited the global reaction in a long time. Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25060-f32eaa46 Docker Mac OS: 15.3.1 Thanks
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Cannot delete Global Expressions
SnowmanS
I am trying to delete a global expression (gLightDelay) but for some strange reason, it comes back despite clicking the Delete this expression and Save Changes buttons. I have not created a global expression for some times and just noticed this while doing some clean-up. I have upgraded Reactor to 25067 from 25060 and the behaviour is still there. I have restarted Reactor (as well as restarting its container) and cleared the browser's cache several times without success. Here's what the log shows. [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:22.690Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:26.254Z <GlobalExpression:NOTICE> Deleting global expression gLightDelay [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:27.887Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } Reactor latest-25067-62e21a2d Docker on Synology NAS
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Local notification methods?
CatmanV2C
Morning, experts. Hard on learning about the internet check script in MSR tools, I was wondering what suggestions anyone has about a local (i.e. non-internet dependent) notification method. This was prompted by yesterday's fun and games with my ISP. I've got the script Cronned and working properly but short of flashing a light on and off, I'm struggling to think of a way of alerting me (ideally to my phone) I guess I could set up a Discord server at home, but that feels like overkill for a rare occasion. Any other suggestions? TIA C
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    #19

    Dang, I just jetted back here to declare my idea #1 as "dumb" but thankfully you beat me to it. Individual Rules already have their own (manual) enable/disable anyway. Dunno what I was talking about. 🙂

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      USER NOTE: Whereas in MFL I followed your prescribed paradigm of naming Reactors after individual Rooms (e.g. "DINING ROOM", "PORCH", etc.), with MSR I'm leaning toward naming Rulesets after their meta-function (e.g. "LIGHTING", "SECURITY", "ENVIRONMENT", etc.) instead.

      Dunno if you've made a conscious decision to promote one naming schema over another, but wanted to toss this idea in the ring.

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        Dang, I just jetted back here to declare my idea #1 as "dumb" but thankfully you beat me to it. Individual Rules already have their own (manual) enable/disable anyway. Dunno what I was talking about. 🙂

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        @librasun said in Preview of Multi-System Reactor:

        Dang, I just jetted back here to declare my idea #1 as "dumb" but thankfully you beat me to it.

        I don't think that's at all dumb, and it makes a lot of sense, depending upon, as you said in your follow-on post, what schema you choose for your rules. So far, I've gone with one rule set per room, just leaving the mapping established by the importer. Particularly when getting the rules moved from RFL to MSR, I often had to disable an entire room's (rule set's) rules until I got something fixed.

        It's not a bad idea at all.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          May I also just add that I appreciate how a Reaction can "Stop" itself? Could be a powerful debugging tool when needed.

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            #23

            LEARNED SOMETHING TODAY

            1. You can click-and-drag Rules to reorganize them in Rulesets. Who knew?
            2. You cannot, however, click-to-highlight the Rule ID of an expanded rule, in order to copy that text.
            3. Setting an Expression := away is entirely different from := "away". The first evaluates to (null) if no such named Global exists; the second evaluates to the string "away".

            #2 would be hugely helpful for times when you need to troubleshoot the Reactor.log. (I understand CSS and HTML, but don't know the correct term for "object not swipable" -- is this a side-effect of, say, a very high z-index on that block element?).

            As for #3, I foolishly thought MSR's expression parser, lexpjs, was meant to typecast unknown objects (away ► "away") but that was a n00b miscalculation.

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              Looks like #2 is a limitation of "sortable" objects in jQuery UI. The sortable takes over all clicks and drags. I'll keep poking for workarounds, but don't get your hopes up.

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                re: #2 it might then be helpful to replicate the Rule ID within the Edit view of each Rule?

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                • LibraSunL LibraSun

                  LEARNED SOMETHING TODAY

                  1. You can click-and-drag Rules to reorganize them in Rulesets. Who knew?
                  2. You cannot, however, click-to-highlight the Rule ID of an expanded rule, in order to copy that text.
                  3. Setting an Expression := away is entirely different from := "away". The first evaluates to (null) if no such named Global exists; the second evaluates to the string "away".

                  #2 would be hugely helpful for times when you need to troubleshoot the Reactor.log. (I understand CSS and HTML, but don't know the correct term for "object not swipable" -- is this a side-effect of, say, a very high z-index on that block element?).

                  As for #3, I foolishly thought MSR's expression parser, lexpjs, was meant to typecast unknown objects (away ► "away") but that was a n00b miscalculation.

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                  @librasun said in Preview of Multi-System Reactor:

                  You can click-and-drag Rules to reorganize them in Rulesets. Who knew?

                  You can do the same with Rule Sets... organize them in any order you wish.

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    re: #2 it might then be helpful to replicate the Rule ID within the Edit view of each Rule?

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                    @librasun said in Preview of Multi-System Reactor:

                    re: #2 it might then be helpful to replicate the Rule ID within the Edit view of each Rule?

                    Why do you need the rule ID?

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      Armed with the unique Rule ID, one can (somewhat more) quickly do a "FIND" in Notepad while looking at REACTOR.LOG

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                        Got it. Name is also logged, although not as frequently in the debug levels.

                        It looks like the only way I can avoid the complete takeover of mousedown by the draggable/sortable is to use a drag handle, e.g. an icon on which you click and drag to move the row. That's done elsewhere, so it would be consistent. I can see other reasons in future to want to interact with the detail card, so I'm leaning towards it right now.

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                          FEATURE REQUEST(?)

                          Place a warning in Global Expressions area that "These are not to be used as stand-alone Triggers. Will not be evaluated unless called from another resource (e.g. Rule-based expressions)."

                          And if this assumption is accurate (I could be misinterpreting? Rules just didn't seem to fire unless they have another in-house Trigger or local copy of said Variable), then also warn in Rules for which there is only a Global Expression and nothing else Trigger'ing it.

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                            MSR USAGE QUESTION

                            Is there a (straightforward) way to do Dev# substitution into the new way (e.g. getEntity( "vera>device_216" ).attributes.battery_power.level) that attribute values get referenced in MSR?
                            Back on Reactor for Vera, I used to iterate over getstate( DeviceNum, "urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1", "BatteryLevel" ) to derive the current battery levels on various devices. And I'd somewhat hate to have to hard-code or write out all of them by hand if I don't have to in MSR.

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                              @toggledbits
                              Could you share a rule for one Room so we can see how it could look like with multipel reactions that has different conditions.
                              I Don’t really understand how multipel reactions on diffrent conditions should look like. In Reactor it was easy to understand but in msr i Don’t get it..

                              I really Wanja make more complicated automations but Iam stuck with one reaction...
                              / Mattias

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                                @toggledbits
                                Could you share a rule for one Room so we can see how it could look like with multipel reactions that has different conditions.
                                I Don’t really understand how multipel reactions on diffrent conditions should look like. In Reactor it was easy to understand but in msr i Don’t get it..

                                I really Wanja make more complicated automations but Iam stuck with one reaction...
                                / Mattias

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                                @matteburk Did you do an import of your Vera reactor sensors? It is different in MSR but I compared the MSR imported rules vs Vera reactors and it helped me figure out what was going on.

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                                  There are no reactions on groups in MSR. Reactor for Vera allowed you to create activities (its equivalent to reactions) on any group in your ReactorSensor.

                                  So, if you are creating a rule with subgroups in MSR, and you decide that the subgroup needs to perform some actions, you have export that subgroup to a Rule of its own. There is a button for that. If you click that button on a group (to the right of the group name), it will export the group to a Rule, and replace the group with a "Rule" condition for the new rule so the logic remains intact in the current rule.

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                                    There are no reactions on groups in MSR. Reactor for Vera allowed you to create activities (its equivalent to reactions) on any group in your ReactorSensor.

                                    So, if you are creating a rule with subgroups in MSR, and you decide that the subgroup needs to perform some actions, you have export that subgroup to a Rule of its own. There is a button for that. If you click that button on a group (to the right of the group name), it will export the group to a Rule, and replace the group with a "Rule" condition for the new rule so the logic remains intact in the current rule.

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                                    @toggledbits@toggledbits Ok Then I understand but I cant find the button... I have Button,rename and collapse and then som shaded row...
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                                      Are you on 21075? Version number in the upper-right corner.

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                                        @matteburk Did you do an import of your Vera reactor sensors? It is different in MSR but I compared the MSR imported rules vs Vera reactors and it helped me figure out what was going on.

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                                        @tarkus I dont use reactor anymore on my Vera Plus... I Jumped the ship a year ago to hubitat..

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                                          Are you on 21075? Version number in the upper-right corner.

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                                          @toggledbits yes... Sorry... will update asap My bad!

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