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I've seen many of you using Dynamic Group Controller. I'm using it myself for monitoring device battery levels. I've read and re-read the Dynamic Group Controller docs and still cannot come to an answer for my question so let me paint my scenario: I've migrated from EchoSpeaks in Hubitat ('cause borked and seemingly unmaintained) to Alexa Devices in Home Assistant ('cause not borked in 2026.11.0) to be able to send TTS to my Echo devices. In EchoSpeaks I could create groups. Sweet. In Alexa Devices I don't seem to be able to do so. As such, my thought was "wait - isn't there a way in MSR?" Is this an effective scenario that Dynamic Group Controller can be used for?
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I'm trying to allow anonymous access from a local network to /api/v1/log, but the problem now with the reverse proxy configuration is that this access is open via proxy to the internet. At least I wasn't able to configure ACL so that only an access from a local network would be permitted. reactor.yaml: baseurl: "http://192.168.1.12:8111" proxy_baseurl: "https://external.com:30000" trusted_proxy: "192.168.1.12" Local traffic would originate from 192.168.1.0/24 network. Synology is acting as a reverse proxy and hosting MSR as a docker container (which has its own network and IP 172.18.0.5). MSR build is latest-26298-fbb75fb8 users.yaml: - url: "/api/v1/log" method: "GET" source_ip: 172.18.0.0/24 allow: true Using the above ACL works, but it enables access via proxy also. If I use source_ip: 192.168.1.0/24, then it doesn't work either locally or remotely. So I'm kinda lost what should I use as source_ip in this case?
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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MSR with reverse proxy
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I'm trying to use MSR via reserve proxy in Synology DSM, but MSR page does not load https://<public ip>:30000/reactor/en-US/ At the same time logging page loads normally https://<public ip>:30000/api/v1/log I thought maybe authentication was messing it up, but there was no deny entries in the log, and also disabling authentication did not make any difference. For this use case VPN is not an option (that works, but as said not an option for this particular use case). Any ideas what could cause this? MSR build latest-26242-28d69aa8, Chrome browser
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[MSR] Native fan capabilty
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Nothing more to add. I see we have hvac_blower, but, anyway, maybe a native fan on the same assumptions of the fan from HASS could be reasonable. I have a couple of them. ie, this is from ESPHome via HASS. x_hass.domain="fan" x_hass.entity_id="fan.kitchen_seashell_hood_ventilation_fan" x_hass.floor_id=null x_hass.services=["fan","esphome"] x_hass.source="esphome" x_hass.state="off" x_hass_attr.friendly_name="Seashell Hood Ventilation Fan" x_hass_attr.percentage=50 x_hass_attr.percentage_step=25 x_hass_attr.preset_mode="" x_hass_attr.preset_modes=[] x_hass_attr.supported_features=49 Thanks.
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[MSR] Rule do not fire
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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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DynamicGroupController and attributes
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
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As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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I accidentally deleted Reactor Ex Machina II (REM II) from my Reactor rules. I tried to recover it by deleting the .json and .dval in the Rules subdirectory and then recreating it from Togglebits original posting, but that did not work. Does anyone know how to recover REM ll ?
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[Solved] DynamicGroupController updating members issue
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Edit: Solved in latest-26221. Bare-metal latest-26193 I have this group: "OKforLarm": name: OK för Larm select: - include_controller: vera - include_capability: door_sensor filter_expression: entity.attributes.door_sensor.state It contains the entities I expect but behaves a bit odd. When I open vera>device_10097 the entity attribute door_sensor.state changes to true but it won't show up as member in the group, when I also open vera>device_10095 they both shows as members and when I close vera>device_10095 it disappear from the group but when I close vera>device_10097 it lingers in the group until I restart Reactor.
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Expressions and LuaXP Functions

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      I honestly can't wrap my head around what you are telling me. It sounds as if you think the values home, away, etc. are different from the strings "home", "away", etc. and somehow that's a problem, but all parameters in Vera are strings, even the numbers. There is no such construct as a "keyword" and no non-string special values for home or away etc. If you want to send away to the Ecobee thermostat on the Vera, the only way to do it is by sending it a string.

      It sounds to me like you need to (a) look at the MSR log to see what MSR is sending to the Vera, and (b) look at the Vera LuaUPnP log to see what is being received and what it's doing with it.

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            Eesh, suddenly it is all working fine!! Please let's DELETE this convo and I promise never to mention it again. Something must've been wrong before the lunch break that was mucking up the workflow. SORRY!!

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              No problem at all... but please, do look at the log file on MSR to see what it is sending, because right now, I have ALL actions being logged on all platforms, regardless of log level settings, for just this very reason. If what's being sent makes sense, then just look on the Vera side to see what it is getting, which is hopefully the same, but that is literally looking at one side and the other of one function call (to do the HTTP request), so there should be parity. But, there can always be a case where something about the value isn't kosher... an extra space before or after? Something sneaking in that doesn't immediately jump out. Logs. Always the logs.

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                WILCO, just bear with me while I endure the "two steps back" phase of debugging my workflow, and get back to you.
                For the moment, I suspect the problem is me, not MSR. 😉

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                  @toggledbits I'm noticing that in MSR the following boolean test expressions are equating to FALSE when I naively expect TRUE (at least for the array version): 1 in {one:1} and 1 in [1,2,3]

                  Also FALSE for: "one" in keys(testobj) where testobj := {one:1,two:2,three:3} which MSR sees internally as {"one":1, "two":2, "three":3}

                  More importantly, despite in being declared a reserved keyword in lexpjs, it is not (yet) explicitly included in your docs among the array operations. Should I submit a request for that?

                  Thanks for your insights, as always.

                  EDIT: Think I found the answer to where "in" belongs in the lexpjs docs... it's intended for the each..<item>..in..<array> construct, whereas the docs currently describe each..<item>..OF..<array> so please accept this typo submission.

                  I believe this means I should not be attempting to use in as I described above, then? And always use indexOf() instead?

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                    @toggledbits I'm noticing that in MSR the following boolean test expressions are equating to FALSE when I naively expect TRUE (at least for the array version): 1 in {one:1} and 1 in [1,2,3]

                    Also FALSE for: "one" in keys(testobj) where testobj := {one:1,two:2,three:3} which MSR sees internally as {"one":1, "two":2, "three":3}

                    More importantly, despite in being declared a reserved keyword in lexpjs, it is not (yet) explicitly included in your docs among the array operations. Should I submit a request for that?

                    Thanks for your insights, as always.

                    EDIT: Think I found the answer to where "in" belongs in the lexpjs docs... it's intended for the each..<item>..in..<array> construct, whereas the docs currently describe each..<item>..OF..<array> so please accept this typo submission.

                    I believe this means I should not be attempting to use in as I described above, then? And always use indexOf() instead?

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                    @librasun said in Expressions and LuaXP Functions:

                    1 in {one:1}

                    This is false because 1 is not a key of the object.

                    1 in [1,2,3]

                    Is actually true (just tested in lexpjs) because 1 is a key in the object (i.e. the element at array index 1 exists). This is JavaScript semantics.

                    Also FALSE for: "one" in keys(testobj)

                    That would be correct because, following those JavaScript semantics, keys() returns an array, and one is not a valid index for any array.

                    Now, we can talk about whether or not the array behavior is expected. The smart folks that came up with JavaScript think so, but that doesn't mean it's the right answer for Reactor. It never occurred to me to use in on array in JavaScript, so I've never seen this effect; the "correct" way is (among several) Array.find() or Array.indexOf(). There is an indexOf() function in MSR/lexpjs.

                    On the 1 in { 'one': 1 } being false, though, this is defensibly correct in both Reactor and JavaScript. If we change the behavior of in for arrays, then test (and true result) you want here would be written as 1 in values( { 'one': 1 } )

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      I see. I hadn't considered the .find method only because it wasn't explicitly mentioned in lexpjs docs, but should have assumed it present from JS by extension.

                      Furthermore, I stand corrected about 1 in [1,2,3] which I swore (should not!) MSR returned as FALSE on first run of test. My bad.

                      Lastly, where do you stand on [1,2,3] || [3,4,5] and [1,2,3] && [3,4,5]? Former is returning TRUE (sorta expected) and latter is returning [3,4,5] which I kinda get, but don't? 🙂

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                        I see. I hadn't considered the .find method only because it wasn't explicitly mentioned in lexpjs docs, but should have assumed it present from JS by extension.

                        Furthermore, I stand corrected about 1 in [1,2,3] which I swore (should not!) MSR returned as FALSE on first run of test. My bad.

                        Lastly, where do you stand on [1,2,3] || [3,4,5] and [1,2,3] && [3,4,5]? Former is returning TRUE (sorta expected) and latter is returning [3,4,5] which I kinda get, but don't? 🙂

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                        @librasun said in Expressions and LuaXP Functions:

                        I see. I hadn't considered the .find method only because it wasn't explicitly mentioned in lexpjs docs, but should have assumed it present from JS by extension.

                        [referring to Array.find()] That's not a lexpjs function, it's how you do what you are trying to do in JavaScript (find a value in an array). Your Reactor/lexpjs solution is indexOf(). Also note that dot-function notation is not supported by Reactor/lexpjs -- you can't say somearrayname.indexOf( lookingfor ), you have to write indexof( somearrayname, lookingfor ).

                        I'm tempted to just leave in as-is for arrays, but well-documented, simply because it follows a common-use language pattern, and there is a defined replacement, which happens to be (almost) the same for both.

                        Lastly, where do you stand on [1,2,3] || [3,4,5] and [1,2,3] && [3,4,5]?

                        That's a bug. The answer for the former should be [1,2,3] and for the latter [4,5,6]. Fixing now.

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                          MSR SAMPLE EXPRESSIONS: Timestamp

                          If you want to display a timestamp in a stored variable or an outbound message from MSR, that looks like "14:24:43 Wed 2021-Mar-17", allow me to save you some typing. Just include this Expression in your Reaction, and reference ${{timeStamp}} in your workflow.

                          daysList = ["Sun","Mon","Tue","Wed","Thu","Fri","Sat"],
                          monthsList = ["","Jan","Feb","Mar","Apr","Jun","Jul","Aug","Sep","Oct","Nov","Dec"],
                          timeNow = dateparts(time()),
                          timeStamp = timeNow.hour + ':' + substr('0' + timeNow.minute,-2,2) + ':' + substr('0' + timeNow.second,-2,2) + '  ' + daysList[timeNow.weekday] + ' ' + timeNow.year + '-' + monthsList[timeNow.month] + '-' + substr('0' + timeNow.day,-2,2)
                          

                          This construct takes advantage of the multi-statement feature built into MSR, which permits you to string together a series of declarations and evaluations within a single Expression. I've also sprinkled in a little formatting spice, so that single-digit day, minute and second fields display with a leading 0.

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                            lexpjs is missing some functions that LuaXP had and range from convenience to vital. Seems that date/time formatting is among them, as this should be a simpler operation, and we can take advantage of all the localization that the system itself offers in the process.

                            Among the functions I know are missing, or I'm pondering, are:

                            format( template, ...args ) - A C-style formatter for strings (like sprintf())
                            strftime( template, time ) - Also C-style, formatting specifically for date parts.
                            dateadd( time, yy, mm, dd, hh, MM, ss ) - Modify a timestamp; e.g. dateadd( time(), null, null, 1 ) would add one day to the current time (so the result time would have the same hour, minute, second just a day forward)
                            dateset( time, yy, mm, dd, hh, MM, ss ) - Another way to modify a timestamp, e.g. dateset( time(), null, null, null, 0, 0, 0 ) would result in midnight for the current date, while dateset( time(), null, null, null, 24, 0, 0 ) would be exactly midnight tomorrow.
                            push, pop, shift and unshift - Array functions to move an element in or out.
                            concat - Concatenate two arrays; function, or overload + ( e.g. [1,2,3] + [4,5,6] => [1,2,3,4,5,6] )
                            slice - Return a portion of arrray; pondering whether this should be done as a function, or with python-style array[start:end] syntax (into the whole brevity thing);
                            splice - Remove elements from, and insert into, and array; splice() is the JavaScript function, and it's very powerful but not particularly user-friendly. Maybe better to have separate remove() and insert() ?

                            The HubitatController also extends lexpjs with its own private hsltorgb() and rgbtohsl() functions to convert between RGB and HS(L) as part of its entity mappings. I'm considering making these available everywhere (could be useful in some actions in particular on any platform).

                            You may note that map/reduce functions are missing, but they are covered by the each operator (e.g. each val in numbers: val**2 produces a new array of the square of the values in numbers, the map() function, while t=0, each val in squares: t=t+val is a reduce that produces the sum of the squares); the select() function from LuaXP is covered by the first option (e.g. first element in array-or-object with match-expression). And filtering can also be done with each because any null result during iteration isn't added to the result array.

                            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                              Wonderful!

                              COMMENTS:

                              • Yes, brevity counts.
                              • Did not know LuaXP (much less lexpjs) has exponentiation with **, only knew pow( )
                              • Hadn't used some of the older syntax much like pop or concat, but other power users sure did
                              • YES to HSL◄►RGB conversion
                              • I'm new to each, first and do but gosh are they powerful!

                              Guess you'll have your hands full deciding which to implement and then fleshing out the lexpjs docs!
                              Looking forward to it. Thanks again.

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                                Does MSR have an equivalent of Reactor's...?

                                getattribute( DeviceNum ,'name')
                                

                                Cannot find such an attribute in Expression Builder.

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                                  No equivalent function, but the name is available as getEntity( .... ).name

                                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                    I'll try that, and encourage you to add that to drop-down.

                                    Also, meanwhile, I'm getting a (null) response with:
                                    getEntity( "vera>device_337" ).attributes.x_vera_device.device_number
                                    which IMHO ought to be (number) 337, no?

                                    EDIT: Solved with a hard refresh of browser! Weird.

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                                      Is there a way to modify the following such that ALL whitespace gets replaced with the underscore (i.e. make the RegExp a 'global')??

                                      replace(msgText, "\s", "_")

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                                        I'm going to enhance the following functions to work like this. I use the "old school" *nix notation for optional parameters by enclosing in square brackets, so where you see that below, those parameters are optional.

                                        • match( string, pattern [ , num [ , flags ] ] ) - Find pattern in string. If num is given and the pattern contains regexp groups, the function will return the numth matched group (e.g. match( "The rain in Spain", "r(ai)n", 1 ) returns "ai"; zero is always the full match, and thus the default). If flags is given as "i", a case-insensitive match will be performed.
                                        • find( string, pattern [ , flags ] ) - Returns the position (0-based) of the matched pattern in string. Returns -1 if the pattern is not matched. The flags have the same meaning as in match().
                                        • replace( string, pattern, replacement [ , flags ] ) - Replaces the first occurrence (by default) of pattern in string with replacement. If specified, flags have the same meaning as in match(), plus the additional flag "g" (for global) modifies the behavior to replace all instances of the pattern in string (if needed, multiple flags can simply be concatenated, as in "ig" for case-insensitive + global). The replacement string uses $ as a special pattern lead-in, so $` yields the portion of string before the matched pattern, $' yields the portion of string after the matched pattern, $& is the entire matched substring, $n inserts the match of the nth group in pattern, and $$ yields "$" (self-escape).

                                        Basically, all of this follows JavaScript semantics, which provides the underlying implementation.

                                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                          Will MSR still interpret the literal \n as a line break (equivalent of <br> in HTML) in text strings? Or is it going to be escaped differently (if used at all)?

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