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Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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[Solved] Limit HA Entity in MSR
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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
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Hi guys, Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular. Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets. I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.
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Widget deletion does not work and landing page (status) is empy
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Need help reducing false positive notifications
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Deleting widgets
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Hopefully a trivial question, but how do you delete widgets in a status page? Using build 22266
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MQTT configuration question
tunnusT
I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }' While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?
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System Configuration Check - time is offset
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Hi! I get this message when I'm on the status tab: System Configuration Check The time on this system and on the Reactor host are significantly different. This may be due to incorrect system configuration on either or both. Please check the configuration of both systems. The host reports 2025-04-01T15:29:29.252Z; browser reports 2025-04-01T15:29:40.528Z; difference 11.276 seconds. I have MSR installed as a docker on my Home Assistant Blue / Hardkernel ODROID-N2/N2+. MSR version is latest-25082-3c348de6. HA versions are: Core 2025.3.4 Supervisor 2025.03.4 Operating System 15.1 I have restarted HA as well as MSR multiple times. This message didn´t show two weeks ago. Don´t know if it have anything to do with the latest MSR version. Do anyone know what I can try? Thanks in advance! Let's Be Careful Out There (Hill Street reference...) /Fanan
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Programmatically capture HTTP Request action status code or error
therealdbT
I have a very strange situation, where if InfluxDB restarts, other containers may fail when restarting at the same time (under not easy to understand circumstances), and InfluxDB remains unreachable (and these containers crashes). I need to reboot these containers in an exact order, after rebooting InfluxDB. While I understand what's going on, I need a way to reliable determine that InfluxDB is not reachable and these containers are not reachable, in order to identify this situation and manually check what's going on - and, maybe, in the future, automatically restart them if needed. So, I was looking at HTTP Request action, but I need to capture the HTTP response code, instead of the response (becase if ping is OK, InfluxDB will reply with a 204), and, potentially, a way to programmatically detect that it's failing to get the response. While I could write a custom HTTP controller for this or a custom HTTP virtual device, I was wondering if this is somewhat on you roadmap @toggledbits Thanks!
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ZwaveJSUI - RGBWW BULB - Warm/Cold White interfered with RGB settings - Bulb doesn't change color if in WarmWhite state.
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Hi , I'm on -Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25067-62e21a2d -Docker on Synology NAS -ZWaveJSUI 9.31.0.6c80945 Problem with ZwaveJSUI: When I try to change color to a bulb RGBWW, it doesn't change to the RGB color and the bulb remains warm or cold white. I tryed with Zipato RGBW Bulb V2 RGBWE2, Hank Bulb HKZW-RGB01, Aentec 6 A-ZWA002, so seems that it happens with all RGBWW bulb with reactor/zwavejsui. I'm using from reator the entity action: "rgb_color.set" and "rgb_color.set_rgb". After I send the reactor command, It changes in zwavejsui the rgb settings but doesn't put the white channel to "0", so the prevalent channel remains warm/cold White and the bulb doesn't change into the rgb color. This is the status of the bulb in zwavejsui after "rgb_color.set" (235,33,33,) and the bulb is still warmWhite. x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor={"warmWhite":204,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} The "cold white" and "warm white" settings interfer with the rgb color settings. Reactor can change bulb colors with rgb_color set — (value, ui8, 0x000000 to 0xffffff) or rgb_color set_rgb — (red, green, blue, all ui1, 0 to 255) but if warm or cold white are not to "0", zwavejsui doesn't change them and I can't find a way to change into rgb or from rgb back to warm white. So if I use from reactor: rgb_color set_rgb — (235,33,33) in zwavejsui I have x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: targetColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: targetColor 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: currentColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: currentColor In zwavejsui, the bulb changes rgb set but warm White remains to "204" and the bulb remais on warm White channel bacause is prevalent on rgb set. x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_0=204 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_1=0 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_2=235 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_3=33 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_4=33 Is it possible to targetColor also for "warmWhite" and "coldWhite" and have something similar to this? x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"warmWhite":0,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} Thanks in advance.
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Problem after upgrading to 25067
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MSR had been running fine, but I decided to follow the message to upgrade to 25067. Since the upgrade, I have received the message "Controller "<name>" (HubitatController hubitat2) could not be loaded at startup. Its ID is not unique." MSR throws the message on every restart. Has anyone else encountered this problem? I am running MSR on a Raspberry Pi4 connecting to two Hubitat units over an OpenVPN tunnel. One C8 and a C8 Pro. Both are up-to-date. It appears that despite the error message that MSR may be operating properly.
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Global expressions not always evaluated
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[Solved] Local expression evaluation
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[Solved] Runtime error when exiting global reaction that contains a group
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I am getting a Runtime error on different browsers when I click exit when editing an existing or creating a new global reaction containing a group. If the global reaction does not have a group I don't get an error. I see a similar post on the forum about a Runtime Error when creating reactions but started a new thread as that appears to be solved. The Runtime Error is different in the two browsers Safari v18.3 @http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:44 You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community. Google Chrome 133.0.6943.142 TypeError: self.editor.isModified is not a function at HTMLButtonElement.<anonymous> (http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:34) You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community. Steps to reproduce: Click the pencil to edit a global reaction with a group. Click the Exit button. Runtime error appears. or Click Create Reaction Click Add Action Select Group Add Condition such as Entity Attribute. Add an Action. Click Save Click Exit Runtime error appears. I don’t know how long the error has been there as I haven’t edited the global reaction in a long time. Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25060-f32eaa46 Docker Mac OS: 15.3.1 Thanks
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Cannot delete Global Expressions
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I am trying to delete a global expression (gLightDelay) but for some strange reason, it comes back despite clicking the Delete this expression and Save Changes buttons. I have not created a global expression for some times and just noticed this while doing some clean-up. I have upgraded Reactor to 25067 from 25060 and the behaviour is still there. I have restarted Reactor (as well as restarting its container) and cleared the browser's cache several times without success. Here's what the log shows. [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:22.690Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:26.254Z <GlobalExpression:NOTICE> Deleting global expression gLightDelay [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:27.887Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } Reactor latest-25067-62e21a2d Docker on Synology NAS
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Local notification methods?
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Morning, experts. Hard on learning about the internet check script in MSR tools, I was wondering what suggestions anyone has about a local (i.e. non-internet dependent) notification method. This was prompted by yesterday's fun and games with my ISP. I've got the script Cronned and working properly but short of flashing a light on and off, I'm struggling to think of a way of alerting me (ideally to my phone) I guess I could set up a Discord server at home, but that feels like overkill for a rare occasion. Any other suggestions? TIA C
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    Since my MSR-installation is growing I have started to take manual backups. I'am quite sure you @rigpapa have backup in app on your roadmap for the future? Which are the essential files to have back-up of until then?

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      Absolutely on the roadmap. Backup of MSR is easy. All you need to archive is your configuration in config, and the storage directory. There may in future be additional directories for locally installed code, but we're not there yet.

      Quick and easy:

      tar -C /path/to/reactor -c -z -f msr-backup-file.taz config/ storage/
      

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        Great, I wrote a script for it giving the filename the date of the backup also. Thanks!

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          I've transcoded about 60% of my old RFV (Reactor for Vera) routines over to MSR -- BY HAND (since no backup/restore facility yet present for us Synology NAS / Docker users) -- and it's going swimmingly. As I've encountered any surprises, Patrick has been swift to educate me (and I, in turn, hopefully many others) on usage as well as iron out any kinks.

          Naturally, I look forward to testing out the Backup/Restore feature, but for now, I've found it infinitely more gratifying to steadily DISABLE old RFV Reactors (of which I had 8 running) one-by-one. I'd like to believe this will not only offload some of the burden on poor ol' Vera's processor, but also lessen the chances of her rebooting (holding steady now at around 1-2 unanticipated Luup reboots daily), down from a guaranteed 3-4 per day last month. Most reboots were associated with multi-step reactions involving 10-20 steps, no matter how many 1- or 2-second delays I sprinkled throughout..

          We shall see with MSR! High hopes!!

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          • LibraSunL LibraSun

            I've transcoded about 60% of my old RFV (Reactor for Vera) routines over to MSR -- BY HAND (since no backup/restore facility yet present for us Synology NAS / Docker users) -- and it's going swimmingly. As I've encountered any surprises, Patrick has been swift to educate me (and I, in turn, hopefully many others) on usage as well as iron out any kinks.

            Naturally, I look forward to testing out the Backup/Restore feature, but for now, I've found it infinitely more gratifying to steadily DISABLE old RFV Reactors (of which I had 8 running) one-by-one. I'd like to believe this will not only offload some of the burden on poor ol' Vera's processor, but also lessen the chances of her rebooting (holding steady now at around 1-2 unanticipated Luup reboots daily), down from a guaranteed 3-4 per day last month. Most reboots were associated with multi-step reactions involving 10-20 steps, no matter how many 1- or 2-second delays I sprinkled throughout..

            We shall see with MSR! High hopes!!

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            @librasun how are you monitoring how many Luup reloads Vera is doing per day?

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            • LibraSunL LibraSun

              I've transcoded about 60% of my old RFV (Reactor for Vera) routines over to MSR -- BY HAND (since no backup/restore facility yet present for us Synology NAS / Docker users) -- and it's going swimmingly. As I've encountered any surprises, Patrick has been swift to educate me (and I, in turn, hopefully many others) on usage as well as iron out any kinks.

              Naturally, I look forward to testing out the Backup/Restore feature, but for now, I've found it infinitely more gratifying to steadily DISABLE old RFV Reactors (of which I had 8 running) one-by-one. I'd like to believe this will not only offload some of the burden on poor ol' Vera's processor, but also lessen the chances of her rebooting (holding steady now at around 1-2 unanticipated Luup reboots daily), down from a guaranteed 3-4 per day last month. Most reboots were associated with multi-step reactions involving 10-20 steps, no matter how many 1- or 2-second delays I sprinkled throughout..

              We shall see with MSR! High hopes!!

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              @librasun Same here, I have now transferred all my old Reactor routines from Vera and it is looking good. The old ones in Vera are now disabled and they are actually running on my RPi4 as the production unit for my home, although @toggledbits sais you should not :). Forward to the HA integration

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                @librasun Same here, I have now transferred all my old Reactor routines from Vera and it is looking good. The old ones in Vera are now disabled and they are actually running on my RPi4 as the production unit for my home, although @toggledbits sais you should not :). Forward to the HA integration

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                @matohl said in MSR Backup:

                although @toggledbits sais you should not 🙂

                Hey, I just dont want to the cause of any reduction in WAF. 😉

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                • cw-kidC cw-kid

                  @librasun how are you monitoring how many Luup reloads Vera is doing per day?

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                  @cw-kid said in MSR Backup:

                  @librasun how are you monitoring how many Luup reloads Vera is doing per day?

                  I've long had a Reactor (for Vera) routine in place which sends me a robust email message (generated with nesting text substitutions, lol) via SMTP, advising me that Luup engine last restart time had changed == reboot. In turn, that fact is monitored by plugin SYSTEM MONITOR.

                  Now, that routine lives in MSR, but only says very little, just that Vera Luup had restarted. Helps me cross-reference whatever I was doing (usually the night before, or in the wee hours) that caused the problem ... which is usually nothing on my part!

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                    @matohl said in MSR Backup:

                    although @toggledbits sais you should not 🙂

                    Hey, I just dont want to the cause of any reduction in WAF. 😉

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                    @toggledbits said in MSR Backup:

                    @matohl said in MSR Backup:

                    although @toggledbits sais you should not 🙂

                    Hey, I just dont want to the cause of any reduction in WAF. 😉

                    Speaking of WAF, I once made a sincere recommendation to Mr. M back at MCV that they NOT allow one-touch activation of On/Off devices, like lights, on the main screen of the Vera Mobile app.

                    Why? BECAUSE OF WAF who doesn't wanna be woken up because I tapped her reading lamp on while trying to adjust the thermostat from my smartphone!

                    He, not grasping the implications, make some snippy remark instead of saying thanks for the feedback.

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                      @cw-kid said in MSR Backup:

                      @librasun how are you monitoring how many Luup reloads Vera is doing per day?

                      I've long had a Reactor (for Vera) routine in place which sends me a robust email message (generated with nesting text substitutions, lol) via SMTP, advising me that Luup engine last restart time had changed == reboot. In turn, that fact is monitored by plugin SYSTEM MONITOR.

                      Now, that routine lives in MSR, but only says very little, just that Vera Luup had restarted. Helps me cross-reference whatever I was doing (usually the night before, or in the wee hours) that caused the problem ... which is usually nothing on my part!

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                      @librasun said in MSR Backup:

                      Now, that routine lives in MSR

                      What trigger do you use? Where to find it?

                      I'd like to setup a similar rule.

                      Thanks

                      EDIT

                      This trigger appears to be working. With no additional plugin or expression needed.

                      Screenshot_20210316_234629.jpg

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                          I found a native MSR trigger see edit above.

                          No additional plugin or expression needed.

                          On average what would be the number of Luup reloads per day?

                          This is probably a bad idea and not good for my OCD to be monitoring this.

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                            I found a native MSR trigger see edit above.

                            No additional plugin or expression needed.

                            On average what would be the number of Luup reloads per day?

                            This is probably a bad idea and not good for my OCD to be monitoring this.

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                            @cw-kid said in MSR Backup:

                            I found a native MSR trigger see edit above.

                            No additional plugin or expression needed.

                            Bravo! Even though I saw that the other day and taken notice, I'd completely forgotten about it, lol. Thanks for the pro tip!!

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                              I found a native MSR trigger see edit above.

                              No additional plugin or expression needed.

                              On average what would be the number of Luup reloads per day?

                              This is probably a bad idea and not good for my OCD to be monitoring this.

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                              @cw-kid it should be zero, if you don’t touch scenes/code/devices. I’m now at 1 every 5-6 days, unless I’m adding devices or editing code.

                              --
                              On a mission to automate everything.

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