I have a case where I'm trying to send a MQTT message similar to the example below:
Topic: pool/set { "command": 4, "value": 1, "time": 0, "interval": 0 }But I need to set "value" so that it is an integer between 20-30. I thought I could use "dimming" capability here, but there's probably a better way. @therealdb ?
(Using userauth-24120-7745fb8d build in Docker)
There's a filtering capability for entities in reactor.yaml, but I have a case where I don't want to filter an entity altogether, but would like to "throttle" it, as this sensor updates every 1-2 seconds (and therefore unnecessarily takes database space).
Sensor data comes through home assistant, and seems that there's no way to control update interval at that end.
So I'm asking if plugin configuration could support limiting/throttling updates for certain entities?
I need a handful of victims volunteers to help test previews of the next build of Reactor. A long-standing request was for "a simple login mechanism," but in practice, adding user authentication and competent access control turned out to be a pretty big project with a lot of big changes on both server and client sides. It's a bit more than I'm comfortable testing myself and springing out to everyone at once, so I'd like to work with a small group to put it through "sea trials."
Major changes/features include:
User authentication with hashed password storage; User group configuration with application restriction (admin, dashboard, API); Detailed control over API access, with user- and token-based authentication/authorization; Improvements to the HTTPS service; Improvements to UI coordination with the core for Rules and Reactions.If this sounds like something you'd like to help with, drop me a reply here in this thread or privately.
Good morning,
Hopefully this is a simple request. I believe the title should be self explanatory, but just in case, I'll elaborate.
On the status tab, we all get alerts if a device state has changed (i.e., been removed). This is great, but when I go into the entities tab, I have to either type the name (or a portion thereof) of the device that has been removed, or I need to scroll all the way through my list of devices. This is infrequent, however, yesterday I replaced a failed device in my HAAS environment. It was a Z-Wave switch that is added using the Smart Scan QR code, which normally makes it pretty easy. However, some devices don't get fully added the first time around, so it'll add multiple entries into HAAS until it get's the S2 authentication correct and the device fully included. It did this to me yesterday, and I had to delete the incomplete device from my installation. MSR still saw the entities of that failed/incomplete switch entity, and I was left with 8 alerts and entities that I needed to removed.
It's not a huge problem, but this example was just one switch. If I were to add replace multiple devices at once, this could be a bit more annoying to remove. It would be helpful to be able to filter by removed entities, so I can find them all quickly and delete them. Continuing that train of thought, it would also be useful to have check boxes next to those lines, and perhaps do a select all type of thing so they could be deleted in one mouse click.
@toggledbits I have finally finished up the SSL using Let's Encrypt and am getting this from my local browser:
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I know you said in the docs that using a self-signed could lead to this but this is LE.
Hi @toggledbits,
I don't know if I'm the only one, so I'm reporting here first instead of opening a bug.
Basically, with the latest 2-3 updates of Reactor and MQTTController, after a restart previous statuses are lost (for both Virtual and MQTT entities), until they're restored.
It's particularly annoying for Virtual Entities, because I have to set them all over again (I've coded some defaults at startup if the values are empty, but sometimes these are not the correct values before the update).
Not easy to reproduce, and logs are gone, but the first time I tought it was me hallucinating, the second one didn't bother too much, after the third I realized it's something not coming from me.
the behavior could be seen in this screenshot:
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Any hint is appreciated.
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.
Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.I'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only).
Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package:
Contrib MQTT templates for Reactor. Contribute to dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib development by creating an account on GitHub.
Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go.
I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them.
The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression.
Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests 🙂
Good morning,
So Home Assistant decided to change the default weather home format that I've been using for the past year and a half. I had two Global Expressions set up to pull the high and low temp forecast for the day. Now it's pulling null values.
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In the dev tools, it now uses a new service (Weather. get forecasts), plural, where the old Weather.get forecast is depreciated and now longer functions.
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It shows a templow field, and a temperature field, which I presume is the forecast high.
When I head back over to MSR, I'm having a hard time finding those values in the Entities tab.
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wx.asoftime=null wx.ceiling=null wx.ceiling_unit=null wx.cloud_cover=null wx.condition_code=null wx.description="partlycloudy" wx.feels_like=null wx.humidity=57 wx.humidity_unit="%" wx.icon=null wx.location=null wx.precipitation_1hr=null wx.precipitation_24hr=null wx.precipitation_other=null wx.precipitation_type=null wx.precipitation_unit="in" wx.pressure=30 wx.pressure_unit="inHg" wx.temperature=55 wx.temperature_unit="°F" wx.visibility=null wx.visibility_unit="mi" wx.wind_compass=210.3 wx.wind_conditions=null wx.wind_direction="SSW" wx.wind_gust=null wx.wind_speed=6.28 wx.wind_speed_unit="mph" x_hass.domain="weather" x_hass.entity_id="weather.forecast_home" x_hass.services=["weather"] x_hass.state="partlycloudy" x_hass_attr.attribution="Weather forecast from met.no, delivered by the Norwegian Meteorological Institute." x_hass_attr.cloud_coverage=85.9 x_hass_attr.dew_point=40 x_hass_attr.friendly_name="New Windsor Weather" x_hass_attr.humidity=57 x_hass_attr.precipitation_unit="in" x_hass_attr.pressure=30 x_hass_attr.pressure_unit="inHg" x_hass_attr.supported_features=3 x_hass_attr.temperature=55 x_hass_attr.temperature_unit="°F" x_hass_attr.visibility_unit="mi" x_hass_attr.wind_bearing=210.3 x_hass_attr.wind_speed=6.28 x_hass_attr.wind_speed_unit="mph"There is a x_hass_attr.temperature, but that appears to be the current temperature, not the high that I found on the dev tools screenshot.
Any ideas?
Running:
Core
2024.4.3
Supervisor
2024.04.0
Operating System
12.2
Frontend
20240404.2
MSR: latest-24057-e9add9f5
Hey Patrick, I recently have been noticing that MSR has been acting up ie. it's been needing restarts and has been slow. I began trouble shooting by looking at the logs and have noticed the following errors for a lot of entities. I thought maybe a simple reboot of RPi was needed and I kept seeing the same errors in the system logs. I am oddly enough not seeing these same errors in the MSR logs. Where things started getting weird is whenever I rebooted MSR it wouldn't come back online .I would have to restart the RPi then it would come back online. I just restarted MSR again to capture logs and it restarted fine, so I guess its good for now? I think this is more or so a corrupted SD card issue rather a MSR issue but well being troubleshooting from here. The SD card is about 1-2 years old.
Apologies if this post is everywhere, I cannot consistently recreate any oddities that are happening, that's what is leading me to believe my SD is going bad.
PS: If anyone knows how to diagnose a corrupt SD card please chime in.
MSR latest-24057-e9add9f5
Home Assistant 2024.4.3
Raspberry Pi 3b+
This system has been running flawlessly year after year for the time changes twice a year literally since MSR came out so I was caught off-guard when this happened this morning.
Time in MSR browser is EST, time on RPi is local time (DST).
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I've rebooted the RPi I've restarted MSR after double-checking the time on the RPi. Used a completely different browser to eliminate any caching concerns. Double-checked MSR reactor.yamla5f23151-d691-4343-8499-8e77a55528e5-image.png
What am I missing here @toggledbits ?
Hi,
For the standard capabilities MSR sends both a value record and a units record to InfluxDB. The latter I would like not to send as they are not really any use for me and it will reduce the number of records send to my InfluxDB.
Is there a quick way to do this with a filter_entities line like: *>units?
Or do I have to update all capabilities to read like this:
power_sensor:
attributes:
value: true
Cheers Rene
I'm trying to replicate this
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into a MQTT entity where I could set a number with a min and max value.
I can't find a standard capability that fits or any documentation on local MQTT capabilities and the only post on the forum mentioning local MQTT capabilities is this post, is it even possible in current release?
My trial and error work in local_mqtt_capabilities.yaml isn't much to show as it's just a copy of mqtt_capabilities.yaml with changed names and then I got stuck.
Any guidance, examples, documentation, future feature request or denial would be much appreciated, thanks!
Reactor 24057-e9add9f5 bare metal
MQTTController 24050
Hi guys,
I've recently bought a new Govee outdoor permanent lights set, and I love it. WAF is pretty high, and the product is good quality. I hope to never run lights in the front of the house.
This new addition has found me searching for something to control these lights, locally. Govee has officials remote and LAN APIs and Home Assistant has it supported, but some undocumented stuff that's integrated into an Homebridge plugin that seems very promising. Without this plugin, my playlist is orchestrated via the cloud and that makes zero sense.
In the past I got some inspiration from plugins running on other platforms and Homebridge seems one of the most active. I could map its devices via HomeKit-local on HA, but I've decommissioned Homebridge years ago when we settled to Alexa (and I want to stay simple), so I had an idea: why get inspiration and rewrite things, when you could write an Homebridge adapter that could load any Homebridge plugin and run them natively under Reactor (MSR)?
I'm not sure if that's viable or made any sense, so I'm posting here to get feedback, encouragement and your thoughts. Anyone could be potentially interested in such a thing?
Hi- looking for a hint in where to start. My goal is to set a PIN code in a zwave kwikset lock triggered in a rule.
The device isn’t exposing methods to help. The x-hass.call-service looks promising, but what would the service name be?
Plan b would be send the zwave controller a config command- I don’t see any way to explicitly send a command through JS Zwave in my environment.
Running reactor bare metal. JS Zwave is running as an add on inside HASS OS.
Any tips are appreciated.
Hey crew, I'm trying to use MSR to control the RGB values of a Z-Wave bulb in Home Assistant.
Problem I'm running into - I would like to use 'rgb_color.set' to control this, but it doesn't work, instead it always passes the values '255,255,255' to HA no matter what values I enter within MSR.
More notes and examples below - I'm wondering if this is a formatting issue that I'm missing? Thanks for any help!
NOTES FROM TROUBLESHOOTING:
'rgb_color.set_rgb' works successfully, which seems strange. You'd think they would both be affected I've tried a couple different formats, like adding quotes, adding/removing spaces between the RGB values, nothing has fixed it.EXAMPLES:
When I use 'rgb_color.set_rgb', the values successfully carry over to Home Assistant:
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But when I use 'rgb_color.set', the values DO NOT successfully carry over to Home Assistant:
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DETAILS:
Bulb is LZW42 by Inovelli MSR version: stable-23242-5ee8e1d4HA DETAILS
Core 2024.2.5 Supervisor 2024.02.1 Operating System 12.0Hi,
I’m running MSR in a docker container on my Synology Nas. The container is automatically updated using watchtower weekly.
It was working. Now, after the update, Reactor webpage is able to load, and all indications on the webpage suggests that it is working fine. However, the updated statuses from Home Assistant and Vera are not being detected.
The container logs show the following error
Reactor stable-23344-5aad7754 app 23344 configuration from /var/reactor/config NODE_PATH /opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.516Z <app:null> Reactor build stable-23344-5aad7754 starting on v16.15.1 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.517Z <app:null> Process ID 1 user/group 0/0; docker; platform linux/x64 #69057 SMP Fri Jan 12 17:02:28 CST 2024; locale (undefined) [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.517Z <app:null> Basedir /opt/reactor; data in /var/reactor/storage [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.517Z <app:null> NODE_PATH=/opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.696Z <Structure:null> Module Structure v23172 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.698Z <Capabilities:null> Module Capabilities v23331 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.780Z <Plugin:null> Module Plugin v22300 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.790Z <TimerBroker:null> Module TimerBroker v22283 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.794Z <Entity:null> Module Entity v22353 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:49.866Z <Controller:null> Module Controller v23069 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.030Z <default:null> Module Ruleset v22293 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.031Z <default:null> Module Rulesets v22146 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.066Z <GlobalExpression:null> Module GlobalExpression v23211 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.581Z <Predicate:null> Module Predicate v23093 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.595Z <AlertManager:null> Module AlertManager v22283 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.600Z <Rule:null> Module Rule v23107 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.614Z <GlobalReaction:null> Module GlobalReaction v22324 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.617Z <Engine:null> Module Engine v23339 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.635Z <httpapi:null> Module httpapi v23058 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.680Z <wsapi:null> Module wsapi v23172 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.789Z <TaskQueue:null> Module TaskQueue 21351 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.790Z <VeraController:null> Module VeraController v23109 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:50.971Z <HassController:null> Module HassController v23344 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:51.716Z <DynamicGroupController:null> Module DynamicGroupController v22313 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:52.253Z <SystemController:null> Module SystemController v23331 i18n: missing en-US language string: The version of nodejs you are using ({0}) is now end-of-life, and so is deprecated for use with Reactor. Please upgrade nodejs to {2}.{3} or higher as soon as possible; the current LTS version is recommended. Releases of Reactor produced after {1} will not run under this version of nodejs at all. [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:52.256Z <Controller:CRIT> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input [-] SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input at JSON.parse (<anonymous>) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:464:51 at Array.forEach (<anonymous>) at SystemController._restoreEntities (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:458:36) at new Controller (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:45:42) at new SystemController (/opt/reactor/server/lib/SystemController.js:29:9) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:101:37 Trace: The version of nodejs you are using ({0}) is now end-of-life, and so is deprecated for use with Reactor. Please upgrade nodejs to {2}.{3} or higher as soon as possible; the current LTS version is recommended. Releases of Reactor produced after {1} will not run under this version of nodejs at all. at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:468:37) at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:126:25) at /opt/reactor/app.js:381:140 [stable-23344]2024-02-28T21:57:59.313Z <app:CRIT> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input [-] SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input at JSON.parse (<anonymous>) at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:114:54) at DelayWriteCacheStrategy.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/DelayWriteCacheStrategy.js:87:50) at Container.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:69:67) at Function.getInstance (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Data.js:37:179) at Rule.getRuleStates (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:507:100) at Rule.getConditionState (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:538:47) at new Rule (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:378:47) at Function.getInstance (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:387:36) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Engine.js:263:53 i18n: missing en-US language string: HomeAssistant on {0:q} may be an unsupported version. The reported version ({1}) has not been certified/tested with this version of Reactor and may cause errors. You must either modify your HomeAssistant install, or see if an update to Reactor has been made available. Trace: HomeAssistant on {0:q} may be an unsupported version. The reported version ({1}) has not been certified/tested with this version of Reactor and may cause errors. You must either modify your HomeAssistant install, or see if an update to Reactor has been made available. at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:468:37) at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:126:25) at HassController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:197:36) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/HassController.js:1117:370 at processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:96:5)I’ve tried using “latest-amd64” and it does not work either. The logs show similar json input error.
Reactor latest-24057-e9add9f5 app 24052 configuration from /var/reactor/config NODE_PATH /opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.466Z <app:null> Reactor build latest-24057-e9add9f5 starting on v20.10.0 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.522Z <app:null> Process ID 1 user/group 0/0; docker; platform linux/x64 #69057 SMP Fri Jan 12 17:02:28 CST 2024; locale (undefined) [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.522Z <app:null> Basedir /opt/reactor; data in /var/reactor/storage [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.522Z <app:null> NODE_PATH=/opt/reactor:/opt/reactor/node_modules [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.667Z <Structure:null> Module Structure v23172 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.673Z <Capabilities:null> Module Capabilities v23331 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.780Z <Plugin:null> Module Plugin v22300 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.787Z <TimerBroker:null> Module TimerBroker v22283 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.791Z <Entity:null> Module Entity v22353 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.796Z <Controller:null> Module Controller v23069 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.811Z <default:null> Module Ruleset v22293 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.811Z <default:null> Module Rulesets v22146 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.821Z <GlobalExpression:null> Module GlobalExpression v23211 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.890Z <Predicate:null> Module Predicate v23093 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:30.958Z <AlertManager:null> Module AlertManager v22283 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.027Z <Rule:null> Module Rule v24057 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.033Z <GlobalReaction:null> Module GlobalReaction v22324 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.036Z <Engine:null> Module Engine v24023 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.042Z <httpapi:null> Module httpapi v24057 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.216Z <wsapi:null> Module wsapi v24057 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.296Z <TaskQueue:null> Module TaskQueue 21351 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.297Z <VeraController:null> Module VeraController v24050 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.365Z <HassController:null> Module HassController v24048 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.659Z <DynamicGroupController:null> Module DynamicGroupController v22313 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.668Z <SystemController:null> Module SystemController v23331 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:31.673Z <Controller:CRIT> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input [-] SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input at JSON.parse (<anonymous>) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:464:51 at Array.forEach (<anonymous>) at SystemController._restoreEntities (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:458:36) at new Controller (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:45:43) at new SystemController (/opt/reactor/server/lib/SystemController.js:237:9) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:101:37 [latest-24057]2024-02-28T22:27:38.845Z <app:CRIT> SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input [-] SyntaxError: Unexpected end of JSON input at JSON.parse (<anonymous>) at IndividualFileStrategy.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/IndividualFileStrategy.js:51:45) at DelayWriteCacheStrategy.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/DelayWriteCacheStrategy.js:89:49) at Container.getDataObject (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Container.js:69:65) at Data.getInstance (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Data.js:45:179) at Rule.getRuleStates (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:515:101) at Rule.getConditionState (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:546:47) at new Rule (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:371:47) at Rule.getInstance (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Rule.js:380:36) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/Engine.js:828:53 i18n: missing en-US language string: HomeAssistant on {0:q} may be an unsupported version. The reported version ({1}) has not been certified/tested with this version of Reactor and may cause errors. You must either modify your HomeAssistant install, or see if an update to Reactor has been made available. Trace: HomeAssistant on {0:q} may be an unsupported version. The reported version ({1}) has not been certified/tested with this version of Reactor and may cause errors. You must either modify your HomeAssistant install, or see if an update to Reactor has been made available. at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:614:37) at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:128:25) at HassController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:197:36) at /opt/reactor/server/lib/HassController.js:1133:374 at process.processTicksAndRejections (node:internal/process/task_queues:95:5)How do I fix this?
Noticed right away last night at closing time that the open/close had become inverted with the update to v23326.
It wasn't an awful bit of lift to change all Reactions to reflect the change but it was jarring initially when everything flipped.
Are there release notes on that version, @toggledbits ?
Change in Plans (Don't Panic)
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Everyone, I've had a change in thinking.
As many of you know, I had decided to not build an MSR interface for eZLO's new controllers, for multiple reasons, not the least of which was that I had chosen not to use an eZLO hub in my future HA. I am currently straddling three hubs: Vera, Home Assistant, and Hubitat. I am actually very much enjoying the flexibility this has provided. But these three hubs are enough for the moment, and when the venerable Vera Plus on which my house has operated since 2017 dies, I will likely just move the rest of my ZWave devices to the other hubs and reduce by one.
Another reason for my previous decision was the risk of fluidity/instability in the eZLO APIs. Since this is first generation work, and even now as they approach the three-year mark on development and are still in "beta" with much functionality still incomplete or missing altogether (plugin UI framework?... anyone? anyone?), it stands to reason that, like all projects in this phase in particular, choices are made that need to be revisited. To be fair, Hass and Hubitat are not immune from this either, even as much more mature products with greater market penetration. In any case, I've demurred because of the high perceived risk of change and breakage, and didn't want to put myself (again) on the critical path of my own user base waiting for me to catch up. I accept now, however, that events like this are just part and parcel of the environment in which I've chosen to work. As I said, if it's not eZLO changing something, it's going to be Hass, or something else. I haven't had a breaking change hit from the Hubitat side yet, but it's probably just a matter of time. Just as I seek to improve my work, they must seek to improve theirs.
The upshot is that I've decided to write an eZLO interface, and I've been working on that for a few days and now have a working prototype running. It works with the few devices I have available for it, and there's a lot that's assumed and untested about all the others. Think back to March, when MSR was first released -- the process of going through and stabilizing these interfaces under all the different external conditions, with devices in your environments that I don't, and sometimes cannot, have -- it takes time. Drilling out all of the details of device behaviors and data, and how each hub handles them differently, takes time. But it's going to be a reality. Aside from this, reading the other forums makes me realize just how much this is needed, if only because there appears as yet to be no articulated concrete plan (e.g. words beyond a promise with no date) to support easy migration from a Vera to an eZLO. MSR touts itself as a tool to assist such migrations between hubs. An eZLO interface must exist.
To set expectations: you'll see the first version of this interface in a build in the next couple of weeks. It will be an add-in. Like MSR itself, I will be limiting the initial audience, and those of you that participate in the early use and testing will be asked to provide lots of diagnostics and feedback (so please don't ask/participate if you're not willing and able to put in the time). It's brand new, unfinished work; there will be lots of bugs, and lots of holes, and it's going to take a lot to get them all squashed and filled, respectively.
Based on what I've learned so far from this project, I also want to forewarn you that it may include access to my cloud infrastructure for automatic logging (to make our mutual efforts to examine problems easier and faster), at least during the early stages. At the moment, MSR has no hard Internet-access dependencies, so this is a change for this interface work.
Also, I probably will ultimately be charging a modest monthly or annual subscription for the eZLO interface, which is a change from policy and practice to date. The amount of effort the project has demanded and can demand in future makes it necessary that I consider a business model. I know that gives some pause, but it should also give you confidence that I am thinking of a long-term future. But, those of you who, as of this writing, hold active accounts on the MSR bug tracker and have participated so valuably in the testing and improvement of MSR, are grand-fathered in to a perpetual (personal/non-commercial use) license to MSR and this interface (no fees, at least for what parts are produced by my hand; I cannot control what others may choose to do if/when third party development takes root). I am considering extending that benefit to everyone who has donated to my projects from the start to date; that is, including those who supported Reactor for Vera, without which MSR would never had been born.
I can probably predict from these forums and others who the active eZLO users are going to be, but if you want to work with me on it, please let me know by reply here. I will be relying on you heavily, because I am not going to be a big consumer of the hub, so a lot of the work will require data collected from you and your hub and investigative work on that evidence, rather than first-hand experience and witnessed events in my own environment. But I'm confident it will work, as much gets done this way already, and investing in more and deeper troubleshooting tools is always a good investment.
Thanks to all of you who have supported this project. Onward...
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Looking forward to seeing the Ezlo version of MSR, I don't use the Ezlo hubs so I won't be able to contribute but with the addition of MSR it may make switching from my Vera Plus to an Ezlo controller a total possibility. I am sure MSR will become a staple for the platform just like how Reactor was in the Vera controllers. Good luck Patrick!!!
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MSR has enabled me to explore Hubitat and I have been impressed with many features. Zigbee works much better and I have added devices that integrate well into my home control most of which is on VeraPlus. I am slowly moving to the VeraPlus just hosting the devices with most of the control through MR.
I pay for Altui and was thinking the other day I would not be opposed to a subscription plan for MSR as it is more valuable to me than Altui.
I was thinking about playing with Home Assistant but could pick up an ezlo plus controller if you are looking for guinea pigs. I could certainly give you the view of someone who just knows enough to be dangerous.
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@Pabla To be clear, MSR will not run on the eZLO hub, just as it does not run on Hubitat or Vera. MSR will always run on independent hardware (Hass can be an exception because you are in control of the host hardware). So if you're running MSR on Synology, RPI, or your favorite Linux or Windows host, it will interface with eZLO in exactly the same way that it does with Vera, Hass, and Hubitat.
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@toggledbits Ah yes that's what I mean't
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I have an Ezlo Plus and an Ezlo Atom. On the Elzo Plus I have lots of devices on there, however most of them are emulated virtual devices mirrored from the "real" devices on my production Vera Plus, this was done using Rene's 3rd party Vera to Ezlo bridge plugin.
I do also have some real Z-Wave devices paired directly to the Ezlo Plus hub.
I would be happy to help test this new MSR interface and I am very happy to see you have decided to make it. This is a massive boost for Ezlo themselves in my opinion as they currently have no native logic rules engine of their own.
The "rule sets" in the beta Ezlo web GUI are basic and pretty much Vera scenes you would find in the Vera mobile app and only have a little improvement thus far, for example we now have basic AND / OR however in these scenes, which we never had on the Vera firmware hubs.
PM me if you want direct access to my Ezlo Plus controller happy for you to poke around and have a look at it.
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@toggledbits I bought 2 test controllers a while back, and I would be more than happy to help any way I can.
Do you have any idea what use case/device interaction scope would look like to give you the data you need?
I am pretty flexible over here...
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@toggledbits I’m so thankful for the time and effort you put into MSR so the least I can do is give something back. I’d love to participate with my Ezlo Plus running about 20 zigbee devices in production, the logic is already in MSR so switching to a new interface would be easy for testing.
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Thanks to all who have replied/volunteered. Variety of devices is key, so anything and everything is helpful. As you may have seen in these forums, even several months into fairly stable integrations for the other hubs, devices keep popping up with little exceptions or gaps in completion. More data is better is less. All of the interfaces drop files in the
logs
folder at the moment that I can use for fairly good diagnostics and forensics, so that theme will continue and get some embellishments for eZLO.I expect the first wave of testing will just be "look and see"... do the devices come in as correct MSR entities, do they have their correct attributes, and are they correctly identified and, where appropriate, assigned sensible system capabilities (in addition to extension capabilities of the
x_ezlo_etc
variety). Startup configuration is also always a first-level challenge, and in this case, we'll have two different options: secured access (login through eZLO's cloud to get a local access token), and unsecured access (secured access can be disabled on the hub, eliminating the need for cloud login/token requests to get local access to the hub). Login + attributes will enable all of the rule/condition capabilities automatically. The second wave will follow immediately (as in with the next breath) to see that actions work and to what extent they need extension or repair, and that completes reactions. Things converged pretty quickly with the other three interfaces, so I'm hopeful this can be highly functional in short order. -
I have a VeraPlus (daily driver), another VeraPlus (used/spare), an eZLO Atom 2.0 (unused), Vera Edge running the LInux f/w (unused), an eZLO Plus (beta testing / unused) and an old Vera 1 (connected / idle) divided among two different residences.
@toggledbits , surely others have made a similar offer by now, so I presume you are "set" for want of controllers -- but IF you require any of these for use in-house, just ask and I'll happily ship/donate.
Likewise, IF you need me to test some particular thing out from my side (Synology NAS > Docker > MSR > hub(s)), also just ask. Who knows, it might be the first/last thing I ever do with eZLO hardware, which otherwise is going in the trash at some point.
Glad you made this decision; I was concerned that you might inadvertently wind up with spare time on your hands. Oh, and THANK YOU for so thoughtfully grandfathering those who've toiled in the trenches alongside you lo these many weeks and months. For that you will not be sorry.
- Libra
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@librasun I actually have a pretty big fist full of controllers myself. It's not really controllers I'm wanting for, it's devices and environments. The more hands this touches that aren't mine, the more things break, and the better things get for it. Hold on to them!
@librasun said in Change in Plans (Don't Panic):
Who knows, it might be the first/last thing I ever do with eZLO hardware, which otherwise is going in the trash at some point.
I absolutely doubt most users of the Atom or PlugHub would be a user of MSR (except in some fringe cases, like for an out-building). But those eZLO Plus's (in full or prototype/skeletal form) could be useful. They seem to have a similar architecture to the Raspberry Pi 4. Maybe once I get the ZWaveJS interface fleshed out (that's also been in the works), I can just publish an MSR replacement firmware for the Plus hardware. You know, for science.
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@toggledbits said in Change in Plans (Don't Panic):
can just publish an MSR replacement firmware for the Plus hardware. You know, for science
So would it also act as a Z-Wave radio?
Or would you still need another second hub like Vera or the Ezlo or Hubitat etc, to act as the Z-Wave controller?
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ZWaveJS would just talk to the on-board ZWave chip (via a serial/USB interface). Vera works the same way. So, yes, it would function as the ZWave radio in addition to being the rules engine.
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So an all in one controller then!
Might have to get my hands on another Ezlo Plus hub, so I can test both setups, native Ezlo or MSR with Z-Wave JS.
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@toggledbits said in Change in Plans (Don't Panic):
So, yes, it would function as the ZWave radio in addition to being the rules engine.
Looking forward to this, so I could add openluup to the mix and call it a day
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I have as many before me, a Ezlo Plus laying around, and collecting dust. I've been waiting for a good reason to use it. When I got the Ezlo Plus, and I heard of the new Z-wave standard with better range I went really hopeful. Combined with MSR it looked like a winning concept. But the lack of stabilty, a working UI, and non-beta made me loose interest. If I can contribute in any way, I'd be honoured.
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While I think a complete replacement firmware would be a fun exercise (and very possibly useful), we already have shown with openLuup and MSR that a Vera on its own is pretty stable in a reduced role as a ZWave radio and little else. So far my testing with the eZLO hub is yielding similar results, with the added benefit that it's demonstrably more stable when ZWave devices become unreachable (the Achilles Heel of current Vera firmware). I suspect we'll find that MSR running on a Pi, NAS, or other host against an eZLO hub still on its native firmware gives almost all of the benefits, without the need to replace the firmware on the hub itself. It will be fun to try it both ways, but I suspect that the simplest solution is going to be the best. And it will be here in a few days, where figuring out the firmware replacement will likely take a good bit more effort (and so is not really a goal, currently, just more of an experiment for a future weekend).
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Hi,
I have already commented on the other forum that my VeraPlus was saved from an incinerator or the tires of my car a few times, thanks to Reactor, and gained new life with MSR, so Patrick you know that you have in my person a collaborator (with limitations of technical knowledge), but a person who likes to explore and especially give suggestions that help users.
But, in my humble opinion, I will not make the mistake of buying an eZLO, I am seriously considering investing now in a Hubitat because I am tired of my VeraPlus being incompatible with any ZegBee or other devices with S2. The eZLO developers should follow the same line of not listening to the 3PP, the independent developers, and go back to repeating Vera's mistakes in my opinion.
This way I recognize your huge effort for the HA community, I am sure you have done a lot but in this new eZLO endeavor I will not be able to help, count me full on MSR for VeraPlus and Hubitat.