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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

    I'm guessing it's a global reaction that is running the (now deleted) rule's reset reaction.

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    wmarcolin
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    @toggledbits

    Or is it not the name of a group within a rule?

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      toggledbits
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      Nope. Not a group.

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      • toggledbitsT toggledbits

        Nope. Not a group.

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        @toggledbits

        Since the problem happened again today at the same time, I searched the log for the information, and what I found (line 3) is something that really doesn't make sense to me.

        [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.425Z <Engine:INFO> Turn Off All A/C all actions completed.
        [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.438Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "AC Guest On/Off<RESET>" (rule-kzydesq8:R)
        [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.439Z <Engine:ERR> [Engine]Engine#1 can't queue reaction rule-kzyree85:R, rule rule-kzyree85 not found
        [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.441Z <Rule:INFO> Hard Reset Sun 3am Part I (rule-kxp4v1ly in Datacenter) starting evaluation; because entity-changed System#reactor_system>system
        [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.441Z <Rule:INFO> (14) Ping Internet Fail (rule-kzrvnme5 in Warning) starting evaluation; because entity-changed System#reactor_system>system
        

        I don't know if this helps at all? Any actions I can take to generate more research material?

        Suggestion: would it be possible to put a log reader in Tools? something simple, just open the file and show it on the screen.

        Thanks.

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        • wmarcolinW wmarcolin

          @toggledbits

          Since the problem happened again today at the same time, I searched the log for the information, and what I found (line 3) is something that really doesn't make sense to me.

          [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.425Z <Engine:INFO> Turn Off All A/C all actions completed.
          [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.438Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "AC Guest On/Off<RESET>" (rule-kzydesq8:R)
          [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.439Z <Engine:ERR> [Engine]Engine#1 can't queue reaction rule-kzyree85:R, rule rule-kzyree85 not found
          [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.441Z <Rule:INFO> Hard Reset Sun 3am Part I (rule-kxp4v1ly in Datacenter) starting evaluation; because entity-changed System#reactor_system>system
          [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.441Z <Rule:INFO> (14) Ping Internet Fail (rule-kzrvnme5 in Warning) starting evaluation; because entity-changed System#reactor_system>system
          

          I don't know if this helps at all? Any actions I can take to generate more research material?

          Suggestion: would it be possible to put a log reader in Tools? something simple, just open the file and show it on the screen.

          Thanks.

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          • wmarcolinW wmarcolin

            @toggledbits

            Since the problem happened again today at the same time, I searched the log for the information, and what I found (line 3) is something that really doesn't make sense to me.

            [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.425Z <Engine:INFO> Turn Off All A/C all actions completed.
            [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.438Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "AC Guest On/Off<RESET>" (rule-kzydesq8:R)
            [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.439Z <Engine:ERR> [Engine]Engine#1 can't queue reaction rule-kzyree85:R, rule rule-kzyree85 not found
            [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.441Z <Rule:INFO> Hard Reset Sun 3am Part I (rule-kxp4v1ly in Datacenter) starting evaluation; because entity-changed System#reactor_system>system
            [latest-22308]2022-11-17T14:00:02.441Z <Rule:INFO> (14) Ping Internet Fail (rule-kzrvnme5 in Warning) starting evaluation; because entity-changed System#reactor_system>system
            

            I don't know if this helps at all? Any actions I can take to generate more research material?

            Suggestion: would it be possible to put a log reader in Tools? something simple, just open the file and show it on the screen.

            Thanks.

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            @wmarcolin said in Error message:

            rule-kzyree85

            Have you queried prior logs to see if the friendly name surfaces? When you look at AC Guest On/Off<RESET> what does it show for the actions to take? The log says that's what's missing.

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              @wmarcolin said in Error message:

              rule-kzyree85

              Have you queried prior logs to see if the friendly name surfaces? When you look at AC Guest On/Off<RESET> what does it show for the actions to take? The log says that's what's missing.

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              wmarcolin
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              @gwp1

              No, the name only appears on this line, I have already searched through all the logs file, and opened yesterday's, and it is the same message.

              The rules that are executed before and after this log, are being executed without problem, the actions happen.

              At 9am, I have a rule that:

              1. performs a refresh of Life360 users, and looking at the logs it succeeds;
              2. Then I turn off all the AC in the house, call a Reactions, which performs an OFF command for 5 devices;
              3. Then I trigger another Reaction to turn off some tomasdas, simple command OFF the device.

              And as I commented, the rule runs in this interval from 9am to about 9:05am everything is executed.

              Thanks,

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                @wmarcolin said in Error message:

                rule-kzyree85

                Have you queried prior logs to see if the friendly name surfaces? When you look at AC Guest On/Off<RESET> what does it show for the actions to take? The log says that's what's missing.

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                @gwp1 said in Error message:

                AC Guest On/Off<RESET>

                Does that ruleset have Reactions that might have a missing ruleset within them?

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                  @gwp1 said in Error message:

                  AC Guest On/Off<RESET>

                  Does that ruleset have Reactions that might have a missing ruleset within them?

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                  @gwp1 That is the correct question.

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                    @gwp1 That is the correct question.

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                    @toggledbits and @gwp1

                    To make sure that this rule that I'm executing is generating the problem, I changed the execution time to 11:00am (16:00:00 LOG), and the error repeated again, so one way to investigate.

                    [latest-22308]2022-11-17T16:20:02.235Z <Engine:ERR> [Engine]Engine#1 can't queue reaction rule-kzyree85:R, rule rule-kzyree85 not found
                    

                    Running each of the steps I found the location of the error.

                    b3c16352-f4f4-4b40-85b5-085e3d77896a-image.png

                    Super thanks for the support and ideas, problem solved.

                    Now, not wanting to minimize my stupidity, @toggledbits this case that is a Reaction used within a Rule, would there be a possibility that Alerts would then show the name? Something like that?

                    This situation was in a way easy to solve, because the rule has daily execution at the same time, thus searching the huge logs by time we could create the search path, now if it was a randomly executed rule it would be much more difficult.

                    Thanks a lot to everyone anyway!

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                    • wmarcolinW wmarcolin

                      @toggledbits and @gwp1

                      To make sure that this rule that I'm executing is generating the problem, I changed the execution time to 11:00am (16:00:00 LOG), and the error repeated again, so one way to investigate.

                      [latest-22308]2022-11-17T16:20:02.235Z <Engine:ERR> [Engine]Engine#1 can't queue reaction rule-kzyree85:R, rule rule-kzyree85 not found
                      

                      Running each of the steps I found the location of the error.

                      b3c16352-f4f4-4b40-85b5-085e3d77896a-image.png

                      Super thanks for the support and ideas, problem solved.

                      Now, not wanting to minimize my stupidity, @toggledbits this case that is a Reaction used within a Rule, would there be a possibility that Alerts would then show the name? Something like that?

                      This situation was in a way easy to solve, because the rule has daily execution at the same time, thus searching the huge logs by time we could create the search path, now if it was a randomly executed rule it would be much more difficult.

                      Thanks a lot to everyone anyway!

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                      Complementing information, this is the mother rule, and that on the second line of the Set Reaction called the Reaction that had the error I presented above.

                      0d78d30c-8346-4341-8a65-46f0937b7b15-image.png

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