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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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DynamicGroupController and attributes
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
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As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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Ooops - Deleted Reactor Ex Machina II
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I accidentally deleted Reactor Ex Machina II (REM II) from my Reactor rules. I tried to recover it by deleting the .json and .dval in the Rules subdirectory and then recreating it from Togglebits original posting, but that did not work. Does anyone know how to recover REM ll ?
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[Solved] DynamicGroupController updating members issue
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Edit: Solved in latest-26221. Bare-metal latest-26193 I have this group: "OKforLarm": name: OK för Larm select: - include_controller: vera - include_capability: door_sensor filter_expression: entity.attributes.door_sensor.state It contains the entities I expect but behaves a bit odd. When I open vera>device_10097 the entity attribute door_sensor.state changes to true but it won't show up as member in the group, when I also open vera>device_10095 they both shows as members and when I close vera>device_10095 it disappear from the group but when I close vera>device_10097 it lingers in the group until I restart Reactor.
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Noticing since 170 that the lock screen doesn't switch to the logon prompt but, rather, stays on the active UI until such time as you go to click something within it. Then it jumps to the login screen. Brave browser Brave 1.92.139 (Official Build) (arm64) Chromium: 150.0.7871.114
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
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Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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Upgrade advice - upgrade from aarch64 to ARM64 image
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I'm currently on version 26011. I understand that the aarch64 image is no longer supported. So, I therefore need to update to the ARM64 image. Can anyone possibly suggest how I update my docker compose.yaml file (see below). Ideally I'd like to keep my existing reactions etc. rather than start from scratch. # Multi-System Reactor template docker-compose.yml (version 22160) # # Change the lines indicated by "DO"... # services: reactor: container_name: reactor environment: # DO change the TZ: line to set your local time zone. # See valid TZ list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones TZ: GB # # DO NOT change this path. Your directory location is in "source" below. REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX: /var/reactor # DO change the image below to the one you are using (e.g. armv7l or aarch64 for RPi 4) image: toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64 restart: "always" expose: - 8111 ports: - 8111:8111 volumes: # DO change the /home/username/reactor below to the directory you created for # your local data; DO NOT change the /var/reactor part - /home/pi/docker/reactor:/var/reactor - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro tmpfs: /tmp
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Alexa for MSR, any interest?
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[RESOLVED] Telegram notification broke with latest update
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[RESOLVED] Phantom device, “INFO” appears
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Auto Back up Reactor Directory to NAS for Home Assistant and RPi Bare Metal Install

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    #1

    I am paranoid that my trusty old Rpi 3b+ running on an old micro SD card is gonna eventually give out, and the countless hours I have put into Reactor will be put to waste. I created a simple script that backups the Reactor directory, dates it and auto deletes any previous backups 7 days old. I have a rule in Reactor that calls a SSH command to my Rpi to run the backup script once every day. Here's the nitty gritty:

    The Backup Script

    SSH into your Rpi and use the command sudo nano reactorbackup.sh. In the file editor that opens up enter these lines (remember to change the paths):

    #! /bin/bash
    
    sudo cp -r {path_to_reactor_directory} {path_to_backup_location}-$(date +'%Y_%m_%d_%H:%M')
    sudo {path_to_backup_location} -maxdepth 1 -mtime +7 -exec rm -rf {} +
    

    Some notes about the script: you can update the date format if you want something else, also change the +7 in -mtime +7 changes the amount of days-old backups to be deleted. Currently it's 7 days.

    Home Assistant Config

    There are many ways you can send SSH commands from HA to other devices, the simplest way I have found is using this HACS integration. Following the install instructions on the GitHub page you will now have a new service called SSH Command: Execute command. This is the service we will use in our Reactor ruleset.

    Reactor Backup Rule

    Now it's time to create a rule that auto runs the previously created reactorbackup.sh script. Very simple stuff:

    Triggers:

    Date/Time between 1:00am and 1:15am (can edit this to whatever time you'd like).

    Set Reaction:

    Entity Action - hass>system - call service
    service ID: SSH Command: Execute command
    Data:
    host: {Rpi IP Adress}
    port: 22
    user: {user}
    pass: {password}
    command: sh reactorbackup.sh

    I do recommend you test this and do check on your backup files, I have yet to think of a way to check if the backup was successful without needing to go into the backup location but its better than nothing.

    Bonus: Mounting NAS to your RPi

    So a backup is only useful if you can access it in the event of failure. If you backup your Reactor directory somewhere in your RPi, it's basically useless if something happens to your RPi. I mapped my NAS so that I can backup the Reactor directory into my NAS. Here's how:

    Create a new directory somewhere under /home/{USR} I created one called backup.

    sudo nano /etc/fstab and add this line //{NAS_IP} /home/{USR}/backup cifs username={NAS_Username},password={NAS_Password},x-systemd.automount 0 0

    To mount sudo mount /home/{USR}/backup

    Once It mounts successfully set the {path_to_backup_location} to the location you mounted your NAS to. In this case it would be /home/{USR}/backup. Now whatever file you copy into that directory it will copy to your NAS.

    I hope this saves your butt one day, I am sure these instructions can be modified to work with other install environments so encourage you to share your backup instructions. If you have any tips you'd like to share please let me know! Hoping to figure out a way to get Reactor to check if the back up was successful.

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      #2

      Can we get the terminology right? A Ruleset is a collection of Rules. A Rule contains triggers, constraints, and reactions.

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      • PablaP Pabla

        I am paranoid that my trusty old Rpi 3b+ running on an old micro SD card is gonna eventually give out, and the countless hours I have put into Reactor will be put to waste. I created a simple script that backups the Reactor directory, dates it and auto deletes any previous backups 7 days old. I have a rule in Reactor that calls a SSH command to my Rpi to run the backup script once every day. Here's the nitty gritty:

        The Backup Script

        SSH into your Rpi and use the command sudo nano reactorbackup.sh. In the file editor that opens up enter these lines (remember to change the paths):

        #! /bin/bash
        
        sudo cp -r {path_to_reactor_directory} {path_to_backup_location}-$(date +'%Y_%m_%d_%H:%M')
        sudo {path_to_backup_location} -maxdepth 1 -mtime +7 -exec rm -rf {} +
        

        Some notes about the script: you can update the date format if you want something else, also change the +7 in -mtime +7 changes the amount of days-old backups to be deleted. Currently it's 7 days.

        Home Assistant Config

        There are many ways you can send SSH commands from HA to other devices, the simplest way I have found is using this HACS integration. Following the install instructions on the GitHub page you will now have a new service called SSH Command: Execute command. This is the service we will use in our Reactor ruleset.

        Reactor Backup Rule

        Now it's time to create a rule that auto runs the previously created reactorbackup.sh script. Very simple stuff:

        Triggers:

        Date/Time between 1:00am and 1:15am (can edit this to whatever time you'd like).

        Set Reaction:

        Entity Action - hass>system - call service
        service ID: SSH Command: Execute command
        Data:
        host: {Rpi IP Adress}
        port: 22
        user: {user}
        pass: {password}
        command: sh reactorbackup.sh

        I do recommend you test this and do check on your backup files, I have yet to think of a way to check if the backup was successful without needing to go into the backup location but its better than nothing.

        Bonus: Mounting NAS to your RPi

        So a backup is only useful if you can access it in the event of failure. If you backup your Reactor directory somewhere in your RPi, it's basically useless if something happens to your RPi. I mapped my NAS so that I can backup the Reactor directory into my NAS. Here's how:

        Create a new directory somewhere under /home/{USR} I created one called backup.

        sudo nano /etc/fstab and add this line //{NAS_IP} /home/{USR}/backup cifs username={NAS_Username},password={NAS_Password},x-systemd.automount 0 0

        To mount sudo mount /home/{USR}/backup

        Once It mounts successfully set the {path_to_backup_location} to the location you mounted your NAS to. In this case it would be /home/{USR}/backup. Now whatever file you copy into that directory it will copy to your NAS.

        I hope this saves your butt one day, I am sure these instructions can be modified to work with other install environments so encourage you to share your backup instructions. If you have any tips you'd like to share please let me know! Hoping to figure out a way to get Reactor to check if the back up was successful.

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        @Pabla This post inspired me.

        After poking at this a bit I went a different route and have my MSR backing up to a Github repo. The only thing it's unhappy about is backing up the storage directory due to the sheer number of files so I circumvented that and have that directory tarred into an archive and then the archive itself is backed up. Github is happy, I'm happy.

        *Hubitat C-7 2.5.1.142
        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

        *HAOS
        Core 2026.7.4
        w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
        FW: v1.1
        SDK: v7.23.1

        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
        MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
        MQTTController: 25139
        ZWave Controller: 25139

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