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    when I have a UPS problem the NUT is sending dozens of reports per second

    What's the UPS problem? Maybe that could be addressed in NUTController if its some odd failure mode of NUT that I can detect?

    What you likely don't want to do is allow the issue to place an even larger load on the system by increasing the throttling limit.

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    @toggledbits hi!

    This NUT UPS issue is something I've been unable to get to work perfectly for months, not to mention year. I even posted a message to you recently.

    I tried to use an old solution from the HE community instead of the MSR solution. The information it returns is much simpler, I had to add attributes to the drive, but the problem turns out to be the same, the NUT stops working, the communication between the UPS and the VM where the NUT is located is not stable. HE upsd drive result: Satale date.

    dev:1572025-01-24 08:21:16.586 PMinfo
    connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:21:01.183 PMinfo
    connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:31.149 PMerror
    telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:01.110 PMinfo
    disconnected from upsd
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:00.082 PMerror
    telnet status: send error: Broken pipe (Write failed)
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:11:15.553 PMinfo
    connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:45.514 PMerror
    telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:30.421 PMerror
    telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.277 PMinfo
    disconnected from upsd
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.252 PMerror
    telnet status: receive error: Stream is closed
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.228 PMwarn
    upsd: Stale data
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.216 PMwarn
    upsd: Stale data
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.203 PMwarn
    upsd: Stale data
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.122 PMwarn
    upsd: Stale data
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.111 PMwarn
    upsd: Stale data
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.098 PMwarn
    upsd: Stale data
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.069 PMwarn
    upsd: Stale data
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:09:30.112 PMwarn
    upsd: Stale data
    dev:1572025-01-24 08:09:30.101 PMwarn
    upsd: Stale data
    

    In other words, after switching from MSR to HE control, the problem continues, changing the error Throttled to ECONNREFUSED.

    Making a new test, returning to the MSR's NUTControl configuration below, with the same parameters as the HE drive.

      - id: nut
        enabled: true
        implementation: NUTController
        name: NUT UPS Controller
        config:
          server: 192.168.50.8  # modify the IP address as needed
          port: 3493            # optional, default shown
          username: "Reactor"   # optional, no user auth if not set
          password: "Mac1967"   # optional, must be specified if username is used
    
    

    The error.log log on MSR is:

    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.800Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.807Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.815Z <Controller:ERR> Controller NUTController#nut is off-line!
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:09.907Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:11.924Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:13.927Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:15.939Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:18.124Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:20.128Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:22.150Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:24.172Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:26.182Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    
    

    IMPORTANT, even with this error log, the NUT control in the MSR does not stop working, it persists until it manages to communicate and collect the data, but this error scenario overloads the MSR.

    Perhaps the time solution indicated by @tunnus could help.

    In addition, parts of the ro reactor.log:

    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.777Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 loading controller interface nut (NUTController)
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.779Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v24303
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.779Z <Controller:INFO> Loaded NUTController version "0.1.24303"; Patrick Rigney/Kedron Holdings LLC <patrick@toggledbits.com> https://reactor.toggledbits.com/docs/NUTC>
    [
    .
    .
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.847Z <Structure:INFO> Starting controller NUTController#nut
    .
    .
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.394Z <Engine:INFO> [Engine]Engine#1 master timer tick, local time "1/24/2025 9:06:47 PM" (TZ offset -300 mins from UTC)
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.395Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.397Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitatC7 performing initial connection and inventory
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.398Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitatC8 performing initial connection and inventory
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.405Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.455Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.460Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:192.168.50.9
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.511Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller NUTController#nut is now online.
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.511Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.516Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:192.168.50.133
    .
    .
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.774Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.777Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.777Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
    .
    .
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.799Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.800Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.801Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.801Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.802Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.803Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.807Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.815Z <Controller:ERR> Controller NUTController#nut is off-line!
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.816Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.829Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
    [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.830Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
    

    IN SUMMARY:

    • the connection parameters IP, login and password are correct, in the log you can see that it connects.
    • NUTControl works until it starts a sequence of failures.
    • In order to re-establish the service, I put a stop and start process in the crontab every 10 minutes, the problem is that it can remain idle all this time and fail.
    • I've tried changing all the synchronization and reading times in the NUT parameters, I've even increased them to 90 seconds for data collection(ie. POLLFREQALERT 30 // HOSTSYNC 30), and it doesn't change the scenario, at a certain point there's saturation and the UPS stops responding.2

    So I think the idea of making the MSR have a different collection time, longer than other devices, can at least reduce the error log, but it doesn't solve the problem.

    Thanks.

    tunnusT 1 Reply Last reply
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    • wmarcolinW wmarcolin

      @toggledbits hi!

      This NUT UPS issue is something I've been unable to get to work perfectly for months, not to mention year. I even posted a message to you recently.

      I tried to use an old solution from the HE community instead of the MSR solution. The information it returns is much simpler, I had to add attributes to the drive, but the problem turns out to be the same, the NUT stops working, the communication between the UPS and the VM where the NUT is located is not stable. HE upsd drive result: Satale date.

      dev:1572025-01-24 08:21:16.586 PMinfo
      connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:21:01.183 PMinfo
      connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:31.149 PMerror
      telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:01.110 PMinfo
      disconnected from upsd
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:20:00.082 PMerror
      telnet status: send error: Broken pipe (Write failed)
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:11:15.553 PMinfo
      connected to upsd on 192.168.50.8:3493 - monitoring TrippLite every 30 seconds
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:45.514 PMerror
      telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:30.421 PMerror
      telnet connect error: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused (Connection refused)
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.277 PMinfo
      disconnected from upsd
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.252 PMerror
      telnet status: receive error: Stream is closed
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.228 PMwarn
      upsd: Stale data
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.216 PMwarn
      upsd: Stale data
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.203 PMwarn
      upsd: Stale data
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.122 PMwarn
      upsd: Stale data
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.111 PMwarn
      upsd: Stale data
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.098 PMwarn
      upsd: Stale data
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:10:00.069 PMwarn
      upsd: Stale data
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:09:30.112 PMwarn
      upsd: Stale data
      dev:1572025-01-24 08:09:30.101 PMwarn
      upsd: Stale data
      

      In other words, after switching from MSR to HE control, the problem continues, changing the error Throttled to ECONNREFUSED.

      Making a new test, returning to the MSR's NUTControl configuration below, with the same parameters as the HE drive.

        - id: nut
          enabled: true
          implementation: NUTController
          name: NUT UPS Controller
          config:
            server: 192.168.50.8  # modify the IP address as needed
            port: 3493            # optional, default shown
            username: "Reactor"   # optional, no user auth if not set
            password: "Mac1967"   # optional, must be specified if username is used
      
      

      The error.log log on MSR is:

      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.800Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.807Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.815Z <Controller:ERR> Controller NUTController#nut is off-line!
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:09.907Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:11.924Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:13.927Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:15.939Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:18.124Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:20.128Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:22.150Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:24.172Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:26.182Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      
      

      IMPORTANT, even with this error log, the NUT control in the MSR does not stop working, it persists until it manages to communicate and collect the data, but this error scenario overloads the MSR.

      Perhaps the time solution indicated by @tunnus could help.

      In addition, parts of the ro reactor.log:

      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.777Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 loading controller interface nut (NUTController)
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.779Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v24303
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.779Z <Controller:INFO> Loaded NUTController version "0.1.24303"; Patrick Rigney/Kedron Holdings LLC <patrick@toggledbits.com> https://reactor.toggledbits.com/docs/NUTC>
      [
      .
      .
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:46.847Z <Structure:INFO> Starting controller NUTController#nut
      .
      .
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.394Z <Engine:INFO> [Engine]Engine#1 master timer tick, local time "1/24/2025 9:06:47 PM" (TZ offset -300 mins from UTC)
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.395Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.397Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitatC7 performing initial connection and inventory
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.398Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitatC8 performing initial connection and inventory
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.405Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.455Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.460Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:192.168.50.9
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.511Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller NUTController#nut is now online.
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.511Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.516Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:192.168.50.133
      .
      .
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.774Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.776Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.777Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.777Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
      .
      .
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.799Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.800Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.801Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.801Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:05.802Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.803Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.807Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.815Z <Controller:ERR> Controller NUTController#nut is off-line!
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.816Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.829Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed
      [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:07.830Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
      

      IN SUMMARY:

      • the connection parameters IP, login and password are correct, in the log you can see that it connects.
      • NUTControl works until it starts a sequence of failures.
      • In order to re-establish the service, I put a stop and start process in the crontab every 10 minutes, the problem is that it can remain idle all this time and fail.
      • I've tried changing all the synchronization and reading times in the NUT parameters, I've even increased them to 90 seconds for data collection(ie. POLLFREQALERT 30 // HOSTSYNC 30), and it doesn't change the scenario, at a certain point there's saturation and the UPS stops responding.2

      So I think the idea of making the MSR have a different collection time, longer than other devices, can at least reduce the error log, but it doesn't solve the problem.

      Thanks.

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      @wmarcolin here's something I've used for a sensor that updates too frequently:

       id: virtual4b
                name: "Lay-Z-Spa temp"
                capabilities:
                  temperature_sensor:
                    attributes:
                      value:
                        model: time series
                        entity: "mqtt>layzspa_states"
                        attribute: "temperature_sensor.value"
                        interval: 1  # minutes
                        retention: 1  # minutes
                        aggregate: sma
                        precision: 0
                primary_attribute: temperature_sensor.value
                type: ValueSensor
      

      Now I can use this virtual entity instead of a real one in a rule without throttling or logging problems (log files rotating too often etc)

      Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Hubitat C-8, Zigbee2MQTT & ZWA-2

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        #7

        Somewhere between...

        [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:06:47.511Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready
        

        and

        [latest-25016]2025-01-25T02:10:03.774Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
        

        is another message I need to see. NUTController will log the reason for a disconnect prior to reconnecting.

        Using a time series is a band-aid that may mask the symptom but won't fix the problem. I don't recommend it, because it really doesn't reduce the system load -- it still needs to handle the change notifications, it's just doing it in a different subsystem.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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          #8

          @wmarcolin pull the 25026 release of NUTController. I made some changes to the recovery discipline and added more info messages. Let's see if it helps us get to the bottom of this.

          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            @wmarcolin pull the 25026 release of NUTController. I made some changes to the recovery discipline and added more info messages. Let's see if it helps us get to the bottom of this.

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            @toggledbits download and test now.

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              • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                @wmarcolin pull the 25026 release of NUTController. I made some changes to the recovery discipline and added more info messages. Let's see if it helps us get to the bottom of this.

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                Hi @toggledbits !!

                I installed the new version, and at the same time created a log file specifically for NUTController, below is what I captured in the first 20 minutes, remembering that every 10 minutes I stop and restart the service to mitigate the problem.

                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.243Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v25026
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.840Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.848Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.848Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.887Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.960Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:32.007Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.750Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting reconnect...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.808Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.810Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.811Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.811Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.812Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.812Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.897Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.898Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.911Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
                .
                . repeat same fail 4....28
                .
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.732Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.733Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.734Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (29 fails)
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.740Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.741Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.742Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (30 fails)
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.762Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.826Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.875Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.389Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting reconnect...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.440Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.440Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.441Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.441Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.444Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.445Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.454Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.455Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.462Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
                .
                . repeat same fail 4....28
                .
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.245Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.246Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.246Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (29 fails)
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.246Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.248Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.248Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (30 fails)
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.251Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.310Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
                [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.367Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
                
                
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                • wmarcolinW wmarcolin

                  Hi @toggledbits !!

                  I installed the new version, and at the same time created a log file specifically for NUTController, below is what I captured in the first 20 minutes, remembering that every 10 minutes I stop and restart the service to mitigate the problem.

                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.243Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v25026
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.840Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.848Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.848Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.887Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:31.960Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:42:32.007Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.750Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting reconnect...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.808Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.810Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:01.811Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.811Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.812Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:03.812Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.897Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.898Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:05.911Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
                  .
                  . repeat same fail 4....28
                  .
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.732Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.733Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:50:58.734Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (29 fails)
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.740Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.741Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:00.742Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (30 fails)
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.762Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.764Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.826Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T18:51:02.875Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.389Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting reconnect...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.440Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.440Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:01.441Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (1 fails)
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.441Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.444Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:03.445Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (2 fails)
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.454Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.455Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:05.462Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (3 fails)
                  .
                  . repeat same fail 4....28
                  .
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.245Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.246Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:00:58.246Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (29 fails)
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.246Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.248Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut unable to establish communication with "192.168.50.8":3493: [Error] connect ECONNREFUSED 192.168.50.8:3493 [-]
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:00.248Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut recycling/reconnecting in 2000ms (30 fails)
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.168.50.8":3493; waiting for ready...
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.250Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) and password
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.251Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.310Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 items returned
                  [latest-25016]2025-01-27T19:01:02.367Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
                  
                  
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                  #12

                  @wmarcolin said in Throttled problem:

                  remembering that every 10 minutes I stop and restart the service to mitigate the problem.

                  OK. So basically, the log is showing exactly that. It's showing that every 10 minutes, the NUT service is closing the connection, and the service takes 60 seconds, almost exactly, to restart before NUTController can connect to it.

                  Try turning off the 10 minute restart and see what it does.

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    @wmarcolin said in Throttled problem:

                    remembering that every 10 minutes I stop and restart the service to mitigate the problem.

                    OK. So basically, the log is showing exactly that. It's showing that every 10 minutes, the NUT service is closing the connection, and the service takes 60 seconds, almost exactly, to restart before NUTController can connect to it.

                    Try turning off the 10 minute restart and see what it does.

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                    @toggledbits

                    I removed the crontab stop and restart process with a set time, and then restarted the MSR to follow the new logs, below.

                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:58.785Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v25026
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.438Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.16>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.444Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.444Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) >
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.544Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client not yet ready; waiting
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.544Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:29:00.631Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:29:00.688Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:17.580Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:17.580Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:27.602Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:27.603Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:37.610Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:37.610Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:47.618Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:47.619Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:57.682Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:57.682Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:07.687Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:07.687Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:18.056Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:18.056Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:28.059Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:28.059Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:38.068Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:38.068Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    .
                    . start the DAT-STALE
                    .
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:13.198Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:23.199Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:23.200Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:33.202Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:33.203Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:43.213Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:43.214Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:53.227Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:53.227Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:03.330Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:03.330Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    .
                    . nothing change than I restart the process (
                    .
                    #systemctl restart nut-driver.service
                    #systemctl restart nut-server.service
                    #systemctl restart nut-monitor.service
                    .
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:13.332Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:13.332Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:23.336Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:23.336Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:33.362Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:33.363Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:43.414Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:43.414Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DRIVER-NOT-CONNECTED
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.544Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting re>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.596Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.16>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.597Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.597Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) >
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.598Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.648Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:54.705Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:54.748Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:37.934Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:37.934Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:47.942Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:47.942Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:57.945Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:57.946Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:29:07.959Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                    [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:29:07.960Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                    .
                    . but after 8min DATA-STALE again
                    .
                    

                    When it failed I consulted upsc directly and the answer I got was the one below.

                    root@main:/home/wilson/reactor/logs# upsc TrippLite@192.168.50.8
                    Init SSL without certificate database
                    Error: Data stale
                    root@main:/home/wilson/reactor/logs#
                    

                    Importantly, in MSR the NUT service does not crash, but it stops updating.

                    654abd95-559a-41de-a535-c4ae65f81943-image.png

                    See that the device goes into an uninformed/excluded status.

                    ee8ca3f8-76e0-4020-8364-5644bc593555-image.png

                    I don't think the problem lies with the MSR/NUTConttoler, it's a matter of the NUT itself managing the UPS. I've been in this situation for more than a year and I can't get out of the problem loop, so some time ago I adopted the stop and restart crontab to alleviate the problem.

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                      @toggledbits

                      I removed the crontab stop and restart process with a set time, and then restarted the MSR to follow the new logs, below.

                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:58.785Z <NUTController:null> Module NUTController v25026
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.438Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.16>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.444Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.444Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) >
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.544Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client not yet ready; waiting
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:28:59.544Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:29:00.631Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T14:29:00.688Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:17.580Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:17.580Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:27.602Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:27.603Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:37.610Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:37.610Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:47.618Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:47.619Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:57.682Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:04:57.682Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:07.687Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:07.687Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:18.056Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:18.056Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:28.059Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:28.059Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:38.068Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T15:05:38.068Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      .
                      . start the DAT-STALE
                      .
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:13.198Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:23.199Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:23.200Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:33.202Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:33.203Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:43.213Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:43.214Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:53.227Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T16:59:53.227Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:03.330Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:03.330Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      .
                      . nothing change than I restart the process (
                      .
                      #systemctl restart nut-driver.service
                      #systemctl restart nut-server.service
                      #systemctl restart nut-monitor.service
                      .
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:13.332Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:13.332Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:23.336Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:23.336Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:33.362Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:33.363Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:43.414Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:43.414Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DRIVER-NOT-CONNECTED
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.544Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut connection closed; attempting re>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.596Z <NUTController:NOTICE> NUTController#nut starting NUT client with "192.16>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.597Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut connected to "192.168.50.8":3493
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.597Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut setting client username (Reactor) >
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.598Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut client ready after authentication
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:44.648Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:54.705Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initial query succeeded with 1 ite>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:00:54.748Z <NUTController:INFO> NUTController#nut initializing TrippLite
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:37.934Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:37.934Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:47.942Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:47.942Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:57.945Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:28:57.946Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:29:07.959Z <NUTController:ERR> NUTController#nut failed to get detail for TrippLite:>
                      [latest-25016]2025-01-28T17:29:07.960Z <NUTController:CRIT> !DATA-STALE
                      .
                      . but after 8min DATA-STALE again
                      .
                      

                      When it failed I consulted upsc directly and the answer I got was the one below.

                      root@main:/home/wilson/reactor/logs# upsc TrippLite@192.168.50.8
                      Init SSL without certificate database
                      Error: Data stale
                      root@main:/home/wilson/reactor/logs#
                      

                      Importantly, in MSR the NUT service does not crash, but it stops updating.

                      654abd95-559a-41de-a535-c4ae65f81943-image.png

                      See that the device goes into an uninformed/excluded status.

                      ee8ca3f8-76e0-4020-8364-5644bc593555-image.png

                      I don't think the problem lies with the MSR/NUTConttoler, it's a matter of the NUT itself managing the UPS. I've been in this situation for more than a year and I can't get out of the problem loop, so some time ago I adopted the stop and restart crontab to alleviate the problem.

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                      @toggledbits

                      Looking for a solution, I implement this script.

                      #!/bin/bash
                      
                      # Nome do UPS configurado em /etc/nut/ups.conf
                      UPS_NAME="TrippLite"
                      
                      # Comando para verificar o status do UPS
                      if upsc "$UPS_NAME@localhost" | grep -q "DATA-STALE"; then
                          echo "$(date): DATA-STALE detectado. Reiniciando o serviço NUT." >> /var/log/monitor_nut.log
                          systemctl restart nut-driver.service
                          systemctl restart nut-server.service
                          systemctl restart nut-monitor.service
                      else
                          echo "$(date): Serviço funcionando normalmente." >> /var/log/monitor_nut.log
                      fi
                      
                      

                      We'll see if it eases the problem, but here's the situation with the NUT.

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                        OK. That's enough info to determine it's a NUT problem (or driver problem), at least.

                        You may want to look at this. You should be troubleshooting at the Network UPS Tools level, looking at your (operating) system log files. Restarting the service isn't going to fix it.

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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