Hi Smart Home Community.
I have used a Sonos inline WiFi switch to make one of my light fittings smart, but it requires a hard reset for WiFi changes, plus it isn't zigbee compatible, which means I can't use the Hue app to control it with the rest of the lights.
To that end I bought a Samotech SM308-S as it is recommended as the better than the Sonos equivalent.
I am however not exactly sure how to wire it in.
The manual is available here
Can anyone help me by clarifying which ports I need to use, and whether I should be using the live or switched live line for live etc.
I will be keeping using standard switches for a while, although hope to upgrade to tap dials once I have all the fittings upgraded.
Thanks
A recent thread on supporting the ZRC-90 Z-Wave scene controller got me to wonder, what does everybody use and like?
I'll start... oh, and no dashboards. I want to hear from you all about dedicated scene controller devices. Dashboards and apps are great to a point, but my experience is that higher WAF is achieved with (a) a dedicated device (b) in a known location (c) with predictable functions and (d) no extra steps to operate (just walk up to it and push a button -- same effort as a light switch/dimmer). She's not wrong. It's a pain to unlock the phone, find the app, open the app, find the device, tap the device, when you can just walk across the room and push a button. Bonus points for something that can be labeled readably (low WAF for stuck-on tape/thermal labels).
I have a ZRC-90 and it's great, but it was temperamental to get working on Vera, and wasn't smooth sailing when it made the move to Z-Wave JS either. A couple of include/exclude cycles were needed to get it fully working on both. Since then, I've done a battery change, and while the buttons work as reliably as ever, the device continues to report the old battery level despite having a measurably fresh battery for over a year now. But I would still recommend it.
I have a Hank 4-button that is probably the best and most reliable battery-operated scene controller I have ever used. It's small and unobtrusive, so it lives on a lamp base in our living room and controls the room's mood lighting. I'm not sure they're still available. RIP.
I just ran across the Minoston MR40Z on Amazon, and I may try one of those. It looks like an installed (in-wall) Decora switch, but the buttons are actually a removable remote that you can pull off the wall and take to the couch. No line power required. Kinda cool. Maybe a good Hank replacement. But, I've never heard of this manufacturer before, and the concern is always "will I be able to buy more/replacements in one/two/five years?"
Among the wired controllers, the Zooz ZEN32 seems to be the most popular modern unit. I like it, but the LEDs are too small for my aging eyes to discern their color in daylight -- they are pin-head sized. Four of the five buttons are too small to label, so low WAF.
When I started my Z-Wave network, I used the Leviton four-button scene/zone controllers (VRCS4 and VRCZ4), and these are still all over my house. They're glitchy first-gen Z-Wave stuff (Vizia RF+ actually, so compatible but with proprietary features that aren't usable). They're now discontinued for Z-Wave. Leviton's newer units are WiFi, so if I go that route, it's HomeKit via Home Assistant for those.
During the pandemic lock-downs, I built a touch-screen scene controller using an Adafruit PyPortal. It had screens with 1 to 8 labeled, colorable soft buttons that could either perform a device function (i.e. publish to MQTT) or take you to another screen, so it was the love-child of scene controller and dashboard. Wife found it agreeable. But it was just a prototype. Memory limitation of the device was an issue because the PyPortal is really an inexpensive teaching device with a big load of Circuit Python overhead, and the graphic display needs a lot of RAM, so it was severely limited. I'm sure it could work out with the right micro and programming closer to the bare metal. Packaging and powering would also need to be addressed. And, at the end of the day, while "cute," it doesn't seem like something I would want to sell with the house if we ended up moving some day.
So, I'm interested in what others are doing and using, or more specifically, what your significant others are comfortable with and willing to use.
Hello - I'm building a new home with zwave throughout. I want to install a flow detection shutoff, and flow meter for three different areas - a pool autofiller, irrigation system, and the home usage. I'd like to be able to detect any leaks in the system, as well as see the flow/usage by each area. What would you recommend?
hello
i am searching for a universal hub that takes my 433 remotes signals and repeats them 433mhz or converts them into bluetooth, wifi, IR, z-wave etc…basically into all the other signals. so my 433mhz remote becomes a universal remote.
it should have an app to configurate, maybe a learning function as well
i belive the homey pro can do that but it costs like 400$ …right?
so is there a cheap “china” product that works like that for at least 433 into IR, bluetooth, wifi
there are so many chinaproducts and i cant figure out which can do which trick !/ this for example https://de.trck.one/redir/clickGate.php?u=Ha2Rd3xX&m=1&p=9yUI69TI8b&t=kLf5673Z&st=&s=&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.techpunt.nl%2Fde%2Fhomey-bridge.html%3Fgclid%3DCj0KCQiA9YugBhCZARIsAACXxeJvViv59ieDen9zOXTP1jhc_OisKQxPlCZOJsPGX20nWo7UROROuJcaAix5EALw_wcB&r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardwareluxx.de%2Fcommunity%2Fthreads%2Fbillige-chinaversion-von-homey-pro-gesucht.1333803%2F
i am working with 433mhz intertechno protokoll remotes .
please help
thanks, christoph
Looking for a simple solution that doesn't require running wire (replacing a switch receptacle is fine)
The problem: the only light switch in my garage is not near a door. So have to walk into the garage to turn the lights on.
Ideal Solution: physical remote I can stick on the wall next to the door to toggle a switch. Is there a product that is a toggle switch to replace the basic switch in the receptacle that I can also operate with a remote?
Is anyone actively developing anything on these IoT chips?
In particular, using NodeMCU for Lua programmability?
Just got a development board to play with myself...
After a fruitless search for WiFI pulse utility meter readers (can't believe I couldn't find anything suitable) and also having resolved a while ago not to include any homebrew hardware in my HA configuration, I've decided in the end to try this out, after all.
Having cut my teeth on Lua, thanks to Vera, it seems promising to use it for development, rather than Arduino programming, and the hardware is SO much cheaper, smaller, and neater than a RPi or the like.
Any experiences welcomed!
AK
Finally, I’ve found an adequate replacement for my beloved MiniMote four-button remotes (I’ve had nine of them for the last 10 years or so!). I should have realised this earlier, but with four buttons and approximately the same form factor, the Philips Hue remotes are viable replacements…
…however, they are, of course, Zigbee and not Zwave, but this doesn’t matter in my HA environment, which has now completely ditched Zwave and Vera for all lighting and control functions, and replaced them with Hue and Shelly devices. These are all brought together with a Homebridge installation running under Docker on Synology NAS with the Apple Home app as the UI. This gives, of course, both secure remote access and voice control.
The MiniMote buttons I had configured as scene triggers to do whatever I needed, most usually toggling lights. The same functionality is easily achieved within the Home app by appropriate shortcuts.
I’m still using openLuup as a secondary hub which mimics all the various devices using MQTT and the ALTHUE plug-in and logs all device and sensor data using the built-in Historian and viewed through Grafana.
Works for me!
AK
After a long wait for an updated version of the rather crude and unfinished Z-Way integration to HASS, i'm now looking (reluctantly) in to replacing Z-Way with Z-wave JS..
Mind you this is a big existing network, not a new controller stick..
I threw up a docker for z-wave JS UI, and tried to connect it to the UZB stick.. It loads the whole network from the stick, but the driver keeps restarting?
Looking at the logs, I see a lot of Dropping message because the driver is not ready to handle it yet.
It seems like the stick just keeps talking like z-way was still listening? This ends up in the driver crashing repeatedly.. Any ideas to how I can get them talking?
In the code snippet below, you see the driver restarting with the graphic letters, seemingly while the stick is mid-sentence, or because of ACK timeout...
2022-10-02T19:19:59.664Z CNTRLR received additional controller information:
Z-Wave API version: 6 (legacy)
Z-Wave chip type: ZW050x
node type Controller
controller role: primary
controller is the SIS: true
controller supports timers: false
nodes in the network: 1, 5, 6, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 21, 22, 23,
24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 32, 33, 34, 36, 37, 38, 39, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 4
7, 48, 52, 55, 69, 70, 71, 73, 74, 75, 77, 78, 79, 81, 82, 83
2022-10-02T19:19:59.765Z CNTRLR [Node 001] [Manufacturer Specific] manufacturerId: metadata updated
2022-10-02T19:19:59.766Z CNTRLR [Node 001] [Manufacturer Specific] productType: metadata updated
2022-10-02T19:19:59.767Z CNTRLR [Node 001] [Manufacturer Specific] productId: metadata updated
2022-10-02T19:19:59.768Z CNTRLR [Node 001] [+] [Manufacturer Specific] manufacturerId: 277
2022-10-02T19:19:59.769Z CNTRLR [Node 001] [+] [Manufacturer Specific] productType: 1024
2022-10-02T19:19:59.770Z CNTRLR [Node 001] [+] [Manufacturer Specific] productId: 1
2022-10-02T19:19:59.770Z CNTRLR [Node 001] [Version] firmwareVersions: metadata updated
2022-10-02T19:19:59.771Z CNTRLR [Node 001] [+] [Version] firmwareVersions: 5.39
2022-10-02T19:19:59.772Z CNTRLR [Node 001] [Version] sdkVersion: metadata updated
2022-10-02T19:19:59.772Z CNTRLR [Node 001] [+] [Version] sdkVersion: "6.9.0"
2022-10-02T19:19:59.772Z CNTRLR setting serial API timeouts: ack = 1000 ms, byte = 150 ms
2022-10-02T19:19:59.792Z SERIAL » 0x01050006640f97 (7 bytes)
2022-10-02T19:19:59.792Z DRIVER » [REQ] [SetSerialApiTimeouts]
payload: 0x640f
2022-10-02T19:19:59.815Z SERIAL « [ACK] (0x06)
2022-10-02T19:19:59.816Z SERIAL « 0x01050106640f96 (7 bytes)
2022-10-02T19:19:59.817Z SERIAL » [ACK] (0x06)
2022-10-02T19:21:03.177Z DRIVER ███████╗ ██╗ ██╗ █████╗ ██╗ ██╗ ███████╗ ██╗ ███████╗
╚══███╔╝ ██║ ██║ ██╔══██╗ ██║ ██║ ██╔════╝ ██║ ██╔════╝
███╔╝ ██║ █╗ ██║ ███████║ ██║ ██║ █████╗ █████╗ ██║ ███████╗
███╔╝ ██║███╗██║ ██╔══██║ ╚██╗ ██╔╝ ██╔══╝ ╚════╝ ██ ██║ ╚════██║
███████╗ ╚███╔███╔╝ ██║ ██║ ╚████╔╝ ███████╗ ╚█████╔╝ ███████║
╚══════╝ ╚══╝╚══╝ ╚═╝ ╚═╝ ╚═══╝ ╚══════╝ ╚════╝ ╚══════╝
2022-10-02T19:21:03.178Z DRIVER version 10.2.0
2022-10-02T19:21:03.179Z DRIVER
2022-10-02T19:21:03.179Z DRIVER starting driver...
2022-10-02T19:21:03.199Z DRIVER opening serial port /dev/zwave
2022-10-02T19:21:03.212Z DRIVER serial port opened
2022-10-02T19:21:03.213Z SERIAL » [NAK] (0x15)
2022-10-02T19:21:03.229Z SERIAL « 0x01090141d39601020201f3 (11 bytes)
2022-10-02T19:21:03.232Z SERIAL » [ACK] (0x06)
2022-10-02T19:21:03.233Z SERIAL « 0x01090141d39601020201f3 (11 bytes)
2022-10-02T19:21:03.234Z SERIAL » [ACK] (0x06)
2022-10-02T19:21:03.234Z SERIAL « 0x01090141d39601020201f3 (11 bytes)
2022-10-02T19:21:03.234Z SERIAL » [ACK] (0x06)
2022-10-02T19:21:03.261Z DRIVER « [RES] [GetNodeProtocolInfo]
payload: 0xd39601020201
2022-10-02T19:21:03.268Z DRIVER « [RES] [GetNodeProtocolInfo] [unexpected]
payload: 0xd39601020201
2022-10-02T19:21:03.268Z DRIVER unexpected response, discarding...
2022-10-02T19:21:03.268Z DRIVER « [RES] [GetNodeProtocolInfo]
payload: 0xd39601020201
2022-10-02T19:21:03.271Z DRIVER « [RES] [GetNodeProtocolInfo] [unexpected]
payload: 0xd39601020201
2022-10-02T19:21:03.271Z DRIVER unexpected response, discarding...
2022-10-02T19:21:03.271Z DRIVER « [RES] [GetNodeProtocolInfo]
payload: 0xd39601020201
2022-10-02T19:21:03.273Z DRIVER « [RES] [GetNodeProtocolInfo] [unexpected]
payload: 0xd39601020201
2022-10-02T19:21:03.274Z DRIVER unexpected response, discarding...
2022-10-02T19:21:03.274Z DRIVER loading configuration...
2022-10-02T19:21:03.298Z CONFIG Using external configuration dir /usr/src/app/store/.config-db
2022-10-02T19:21:03.298Z CONFIG version 10.2.0
2022-10-02T19:21:04.284Z DRIVER beginning interview...
2022-10-02T19:21:04.286Z DRIVER added request handler for AddNodeToNetwork (0x4a)...
1 registered
2022-10-02T19:21:04.286Z DRIVER added request handler for RemoveNodeFromNetwork (0x4b)...
1 registered
2022-10-02T19:21:04.286Z DRIVER added request handler for ReplaceFailedNode (0x63)...
1 registered
2022-10-02T19:21:04.287Z CNTRLR querying controller IDs...
2022-10-02T19:21:04.484Z SERIAL » 0x01030020dc (5 bytes)
2022-10-02T19:21:04.485Z DRIVER » [REQ] [GetControllerId]
2022-10-02T19:21:04.487Z SERIAL « 0x0123000400511a9f039900b834787d066515a4b79c45bb3af55ea7f6203006010 (37 bytes)
80120c84d
2022-10-02T19:21:04.489Z SERIAL « [DISCARDED] invalid data 0x9ef4 (2 bytes)
2022-10-02T19:21:04.490Z DRIVER Dropping message because it contains invalid data
2022-10-02T19:21:04.490Z SERIAL » [NAK] (0x15)
2022-10-02T19:21:05.488Z CNTRLR Failed to execute controller command after 1/3 attempts. Scheduling next try i
n 100 ms.
2022-10-02T19:21:05.591Z SERIAL » 0x01030020dc (5 bytes)
2022-10-02T19:21:05.592Z DRIVER » [REQ] [GetControllerId]
2022-10-02T19:21:06.596Z CNTRLR Failed to execute controller command after 2/3 attempts. Scheduling next try i
n 1100 ms.
2022-10-02T19:21:07.698Z SERIAL » 0x01030020dc (5 bytes)
2022-10-02T19:21:07.699Z DRIVER » [REQ] [GetControllerId]
2022-10-02T19:21:08.717Z DRIVER Failed to initialize the driver: ZWaveError: Timeout while waiting for an ACK
from the controller (ZW0200)
at Driver.sendMessage (/usr/src/app/node_modules/zwave-js/src/lib/driver/D
river.ts:3980:23)
at ZWaveController.identify (/usr/src/app/node_modules/zwave-js/src/lib/co
ntroller/Controller.ts:713:33)
at Driver.initializeControllerAndNodes (/usr/src/app/node_modules/zwave-js
/src/lib/driver/Driver.ts:1207:26)
at Immediate.<anonymous> (/usr/src/app/node_modules/zwave-js/src/lib/drive
r/Driver.ts:1014:16)
2022-10-02T19:21:08.723Z DRIVER destroying driver instance...
2022-10-02T19:21:08.728Z DRIVER driver instance destroyed
2022-10-02T19:21:08.739Z DRIVER ███████╗ ██╗ ██╗ █████╗ ██╗ ██╗ ███████╗ ██╗ ███████╗
╚══███╔╝ ██║ ██║ ██╔══██╗ ██║ ██║ ██╔════╝ ██║ ██╔════╝
███╔╝ ██║ █╗ ██║ ███████║ ██║ ██║ █████╗ █████╗ ██║ ███████╗
███╔╝ ██║███╗██║ ██╔══██║ ╚██╗ ██╔╝ ██╔══╝ ╚════╝ ██ ██║ ╚════██║
███████╗ ╚███╔███╔╝ ██║ ██║ ╚████╔╝ ███████╗ ╚█████╔╝ ███████║
╚══════╝ ╚══╝╚══╝ ╚═╝ ╚═╝ ╚═══╝ ╚══════╝ ╚════╝ ╚══════╝
2022-10-02T19:21:08.740Z DRIVER version 10.2.0
2022-10-02T19:21:08.740Z DRIVER
2022-10-02T19:21:08.740Z DRIVER starting driver...
2022-10-02T19:21:08.745Z DRIVER opening serial port /dev/zwave
2022-10-02T19:21:08.751Z DRIVER serial port opened
2022-10-02T19:21:08.752Z SERIAL » [NAK] (0x15)
2022-10-02T19:21:08.754Z DRIVER loading configuration...
2022-10-02T19:21:08.755Z SERIAL « 0x01080120c84d9ef40138 (10 bytes)
2022-10-02T19:21:08.757Z SERIAL » [ACK] (0x06)
2022-10-02T19:21:08.758Z DRIVER « [RES] [GetControllerId]
Well with all that has been going on with Vera/eZlo, many people are abandoning the Vera hubs and moving on to other solutions, such as Hubitat (my case), HASS, HA, and many other controllers.
In the past, I had already been informed that when the migration was over, my Vera would go to the incinerator, or under the wheel of my car, and of course, I did not comply.
So I wanted to open a debate, for those who have not yet sold their Vera on eBay, are with the equipment idle, what destination could be given?
I see many saying that it has become a laboratory, I don't see much sense, since it is becoming obsolete and without a drive. But it can be a destiny. Has anyone thought about whether it is feasible to change the hub's SO so that it becomes a host for MSR, for example? Or even Home Assistance? I have no knowledge, but it seems to me that processor and memory have to do something like that, already has embedded wifi and network.
Does anyone have any idea if it is possible to give this equipment a destination other than a box?
I just started [uncloud] forum to gather in one central place all smart devices working without the cloud, since this is not information easily available on the Internet.
I thought this might interest some users of this forum and any feedback are welcome.
And let me know if you know more devices that I should add to the list!
- Marco
I didn't see an existing Topic for heating-ventilation-air conditioning, so here goes...
Is anyone successfully controlling a "mini split" (i.e. ductless) A/C or heat pump system at home? I will be adding such a system soon to new construction, and wondered if certain brands/models interface better via Z-Wave or WiFi than others in a HA setting.
I know a bunch of these "splits" come with handheld remotes, but having robust Home Automation control (preferably without a dedicated plug-in needed on the Vera side) would be idea.
Happy to hear suggestions. Thanks!
Libra
Shelly i3 as a cheap scene controller for Openluup
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@therealdb Where did you put the shelly i3 ? And which switches are you using ?
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It’s in the box and I’m using standard switches. In Europe (mostly France and Italy) we have a different style for flush-mounted boxes (called 503 box, 504, 506 depending on how many switches you could fit), so it’s very easy to do.
It’s basically a system that could be combined and where items could be added.
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It’s in the box and I’m using standard switches. In Europe (mostly France and Italy) we have a different style for flush-mounted boxes (called 503 box, 504, 506 depending on how many switches you could fit), so it’s very easy to do.
It’s basically a system that could be combined and where items could be added.
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So these Shelley modules, we can use them with HA-bridge I assume? They look great, if so!
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@catmanv2 said in Shelly i3 as a cheap scene controller for Openluup:
Well that makes things a lot cheaper all of a sudden!
Yep. While I'm a fan of Shelly, I have not deployed so many of them, because it'll cost you time to manage them.
I'll probably add them to the new office we're building, but offices are less complex than houses, because you'll simply turn lights on/off based on presence and time, and automations are simple.
While I have a lot of friends going the WiFi route, I'm sure they'll find problems when they'll reach my size (100+ devices).
Things are better on home assistant, with autodiscovery, auto fw update, and so on, but it's too many moving parts for me.
I'm OK with a couple of them in strategic places, where Zwave mesh sucks or when a Zwave equivalent is not available (or for very low budgets situation, where I want to add automation but be on a budget).
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@akbooer said in Shelly i3 as a cheap scene controller for Openluup:
I just so much wish that they produced a four button handheld controller.
…and now, they do (well, not quite, it’s not handheld, but mains powered)…The (relatively) new Shelly Plus i4.
Just received and installed one… the latest (beta) firmware is vastly different from the old i3s, but I configured it in the end. However, the MQTT function doesn’t broadcast to the generic Shellies/ topic, so isn’t recognised by openLuup at this time.
Anyone else have experience of these devices? I missed the old Zwave Fibaro 4-channel input device, but this seems like an excellent replacement.
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