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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
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Handling Dead Entities and Renamed Entities
PablaP
Hello all.. been a minute! I recently rebuilt my Z wave network and migrated to a new z wave stick. In order to prevent any downtime I kept my original z wave network up and ran a docker version of Z Wave JS UI with my new controller. This way I could add device by device without having any devices down. I finally moved all the devices over to my new stick today. The final step was to migrate everything from my Docker instance of Z Wave JS UI to the HA add-on of Z Wave JS UI. However during this migration some of the names didn't populate correctly which I later managed to import back into Z Wave JS UI. The issue was in Reactor it is stuck on the default names and the entities are not updating. I removed the controller from Reactor, restarted, hard refreshed, and added the controller back however the new entity names have not updated. Also it seems like the old entities from my previous instance of Z Wave JS UI are lingering and not being marked as dead (I believe a certain amount of time needs to lapse before they're marked as dead in Reactor). My goal is to basically purge all the entities for the 'ZWaveJS' controller in Reactor so it can pull all the updated entity names and only the entities that exist in Z Wave JS UI. I cannot find a quick way to do this, I know entities can be deleted one by one, but with over 100 entities this would take long I am guessing that if I added the controller with a new name in in the Reactor config it would pull the updated entities and names but I think that would break my rules since the entity IDs would change (I made sure to name all the entities the exact same as they were previously to prevent this issue).
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Strange behavior for MQTT templates using payload and attributes
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[MSR] reactor-mqtt-contrib package for additional MQTT templates
therealdbT
I'm slowly migrating all my stuff to MQTT under MSR, so I have a central place to integrate everything (and, in a not-so-distant future, to remove virtual devices from my Vera and leave it running zwave only). Anyway, here's my reactor-mqtt-contrib package: https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-mqtt-contrib Simply download yaml files (everything or just the ones you need) and you're good to go. I have mapped my most useful devices, but I'll add others soon. Feel free to ask for specific templates, since I've worked a lot in the last weeks to understand and operate them. The templates are supporting both init and query, so you have always up-to-date devices at startup, and the ability to poll them. Online status is supported as well, so you can get disconnected devices with a simple expression. Many-many thanks to @toggledbits for its dedication, support, and patience with me and my requests
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HA 2025.9.4 Supported Yet?
CatmanV2C
Tangentially did I miss 2025.9.4 getting blessed in MSR? I've been holding off Cheers C
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The reaction stopped working (Google Nest max playing a video)
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Rule Set UI bug - RESOLVED
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[Reactor] Copy&Paste of Rules
therealdbT
I don't know if I'm the only one, but managing more than one Reactor installs, the need to have some sort of copy&paste for rules has grown on me. While I understand the technical challenges, I'm wondering if a "god mode" where I could copy the raw JSON rule and paste it into another rule could be an advanced, flag only feature that could benefit power users. I know I can copy the JSON file and proceed, but I must stop Reactor and when doing maintenance, it's more clicks to do. Just an idea
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[Reactor] Help with screne controller cycling logic
therealdbT
I’ve added a couple of Shelly Wave i4 as scene controllers and I’m planning to add more, since I can just use standard buttons instead of battery-powered scene controllers, which also looks better aesthetically. That said, I’m struggling to figure out how to write a simple rule that cycles between states every time I press a button. Example: Light 1 ON → OFF, then Light 2 ON → OFF. The part I can’t get right is handling the case where Light 1 or Light 2 might already be ON independently of the rule. Maybe it’s just too much sun and relaxation clouding my brain, but any hint would be appreciated.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Expose MSR entities
CatmanV2C
Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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Comment in Globa Expressions
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I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
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As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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Gradually turn on lights.
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I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Can't customize home page
G
I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page. Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones. Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025) What have I done?! Will check other browsers on my M1. UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour. I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
T
@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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    #25

    On my list of hubs/controllers to tackle next are Homey and OpenHAB, but I am also interested in MQTT, so I'm hearing a bump in priority coming, at least for investigation.

    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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      #26

      I'm enjoying this thread as it develops, but will stand by until someone wraps MSR into a Docker package that I can install/run on my Docker-enabled Synology NAS.

      Like everyone else, "I'm at full candy corn" (so the Stewie Griffith saying goes) on this project and can't wait to give it a whirl!

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      • toggledbitsT toggledbits

        On my list of hubs/controllers to tackle next are Homey and OpenHAB, but I am also interested in MQTT, so I'm hearing a bump in priority coming, at least for investigation.

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        #27

        @toggledbits

        Definitely a vote for MQTT here though it does require setup on both MSR and the "children" controllers, it reduces the I/O traffic dramatically compared to the polling approaches. In my personal case, since I am a bit bored like @therealdb, and don't have much to add or improve to my home automation, my interest is on improving efficiencies. I find satisfaction even when decreasing CPU utilization by decimal points.

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          I realise that I have to re-think my rules from Vera since I can only have one set of reaction to a rule. In Vera you could have different reaction to different rules within one sensor. I have to look at Rule Set's

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            The importer will automatically split out any group that has activities (from Vera) to a Rule in MSR, and leave a "rule" condition in the parent to preserve the logic. I think it's wayyyy more convenient, but I've also had a few months of working on it to get used to it.

            You can also create global reactions that can be run from any other reaction.

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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              #30

              I realise that but I was so into the "old" Reactor I had to re-think a little bit. I want to build my logic without importing the old mistakes from the beginning. Suggestion for improvement: To set dimming level you have yellow background and white text which is very difficult to read, at least for my eyes 🙂
              Edit: Wrong I was using the app "Dark Reader" on my RPi witch confused the colours. Turning it off it is black on yellow

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                FYI, the yellow indicator means it's going to let you do what you are asking, but the value you are giving is out of range. Dimming values in MSR are real numbers between 0 and 1 inclusive.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  #32

                  Release 21050 just published; use the "Download" button in the bug tracker.

                  Upgrade instructions

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                    #33

                    how does one obtain creds to the MantisBT?

                    *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.123
                    *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                    *HASS 2025.9.4
                    w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                    *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                    MSR: latest-25264-2fbe9217
                    MQTTController: 25139
                    ZWave Controller: 25139

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                      Send me a PM with your email address and full name; I'll set up your account and the site will email you.

                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                        Send me a PM with your email address and full name; I'll set up your account and the site will email you.

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                        @toggledbits Done. Thanks!

                        *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.123
                        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                        *HASS 2025.9.4
                        w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

                        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                        MSR: latest-25264-2fbe9217
                        MQTTController: 25139
                        ZWave Controller: 25139

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                          @toggledbits

                          Definitely a vote for MQTT here though it does require setup on both MSR and the "children" controllers, it reduces the I/O traffic dramatically compared to the polling approaches. In my personal case, since I am a bit bored like @therealdb, and don't have much to add or improve to my home automation, my interest is on improving efficiencies. I find satisfaction even when decreasing CPU utilization by decimal points.

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                          Since we’re at it, I think the mqtt gateway should support announcements, lwt and so on.

                          This will make very easy to integrate things like Shelly, tasmota, and so on.

                          --
                          On a mission to automate everything.

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                              I had an issue with an account on the bug tracker (already?) so I locked it down. PM me your full name and email address and I'll set up your account. It will email you an access link.

                              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                Got my instance going with Home Assistant. I am finding it brilliant as it is connecting to it through websocket. I am seeing the potential now to have reactor act as a bridge, detecting events happening on Home Assistant and forwarding them to openLuup and vice versa, eliminating the need for configuring additional scenes on openLuup and automation on home assistant!

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                                  I'm getting ready to assemble today's build (21051). I think I have everything urgent covered, with some PRs left open for confirmation. There's one more I want to try to address before I roll it up and out for the day.

                                  This build also includes:

                                  • Fix for condition trigger repeating when a sustained-for delay applies (#30);
                                  • Fix an error on import (#29);
                                  • Fix an error on Hass caused by an unhandled attribute (#27);
                                  • New units configuration value "uk" (#31), as well as more granular control over units (if imperial, metric, or uk isn't enough, you can now set units by use class; per device/attribute is planned and part of the architecture as well);
                                  • Fix elevation computation problem in sunrise/set data (mangles angles if elev configured <> 0) (#34);
                                  • Now with working SMTP, Prowl, Pushover and Syslog notifications;
                                  • Notification forwarding for Hubitat (see docs for configuration details);
                                  • many documentation fixes and upgrades.

                                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                    And 21051 is now available.

                                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                      Updated and now added openLuup. Doesn't seem to be a problem but why do openLuup scenes and room entities keep flashing green even without seemingly any updates?

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                                        #43

                                        I will look into that!


                                        Edit: It looks like the jobs object is dropped on Vera Luup when it's empty, but is always present on openLuup. Since the comparison to see if a value changes doesn't "go deep" on objects and arrays, it sees two empty objects as different every time they are presented (using JS's comparison operator), and the scene is being presented on each update even though outwardly there don't appear to be any changes. So two small diffs between Vera Luup and openLuup contributing.

                                        I'm just going to suppress anything that isn't a primitive and leave it at that. Deep inspection of objects and arrays isn't likely to be valuable or necessary.

                                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                          I'm getting ready to assemble today's build (21051). I think I have everything urgent covered, with some PRs left open for confirmation. There's one more I want to try to address before I roll it up and out for the day.

                                          This build also includes:

                                          • Fix for condition trigger repeating when a sustained-for delay applies (#30);
                                          • Fix an error on import (#29);
                                          • Fix an error on Hass caused by an unhandled attribute (#27);
                                          • New units configuration value "uk" (#31), as well as more granular control over units (if imperial, metric, or uk isn't enough, you can now set units by use class; per device/attribute is planned and part of the architecture as well);
                                          • Fix elevation computation problem in sunrise/set data (mangles angles if elev configured <> 0) (#34);
                                          • Now with working SMTP, Prowl, Pushover and Syslog notifications;
                                          • Notification forwarding for Hubitat (see docs for configuration details);
                                          • many documentation fixes and upgrades.
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                                          @toggledbits said in Multi-System Reactor Developer Preview AVAILABLE:

                                          I'm getting ready to assemble today's build (21051). I think I have everything urgent covered, with some PRs left open for confirmation. There's one more I want to try to address before I roll it up and out for the day.

                                          This build also includes:

                                          • Fix for condition trigger repeating when a sustained-for delay applies (#30);
                                          • Fix an error on import (#29);
                                          • Fix an error on Hass caused by an unhandled attribute (#27);
                                          • New units configuration value "uk" (#31), as well as more granular control over units (if imperial, metric, or uk isn't enough, you can now set units by use class; per device/attribute is planned and part of the architecture as well);
                                          • Fix elevation computation problem in sunrise/set data (mangles angles if elev configured <> 0) (#34);
                                          • Now with working SMTP, Prowl, Pushover and Syslog notifications;
                                          • Notification forwarding for Hubitat (see docs for configuration details);
                                          • many documentation fixes and upgrades.

                                          Looking good, squashing those bugs. I will keep reporting anything I find. Just set up SMTP. Works great!

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