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Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
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I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Advice reqeusted to migrate MSR from Bare Metal to Container
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Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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I have a very strange situation, where if InfluxDB restarts, other containers may fail when restarting at the same time (under not easy to understand circumstances), and InfluxDB remains unreachable (and these containers crashes). I need to reboot these containers in an exact order, after rebooting InfluxDB. While I understand what's going on, I need a way to reliable determine that InfluxDB is not reachable and these containers are not reachable, in order to identify this situation and manually check what's going on - and, maybe, in the future, automatically restart them if needed. So, I was looking at HTTP Request action, but I need to capture the HTTP response code, instead of the response (becase if ping is OK, InfluxDB will reply with a 204), and, potentially, a way to programmatically detect that it's failing to get the response. While I could write a custom HTTP controller for this or a custom HTTP virtual device, I was wondering if this is somewhat on you roadmap @toggledbits Thanks!
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Hi , I'm on -Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25067-62e21a2d -Docker on Synology NAS -ZWaveJSUI 9.31.0.6c80945 Problem with ZwaveJSUI: When I try to change color to a bulb RGBWW, it doesn't change to the RGB color and the bulb remains warm or cold white. I tryed with Zipato RGBW Bulb V2 RGBWE2, Hank Bulb HKZW-RGB01, Aentec 6 A-ZWA002, so seems that it happens with all RGBWW bulb with reactor/zwavejsui. I'm using from reator the entity action: "rgb_color.set" and "rgb_color.set_rgb". After I send the reactor command, It changes in zwavejsui the rgb settings but doesn't put the white channel to "0", so the prevalent channel remains warm/cold White and the bulb doesn't change into the rgb color. This is the status of the bulb in zwavejsui after "rgb_color.set" (235,33,33,) and the bulb is still warmWhite. x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor={"warmWhite":204,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} The "cold white" and "warm white" settings interfer with the rgb color settings. Reactor can change bulb colors with rgb_color set — (value, ui8, 0x000000 to 0xffffff) or rgb_color set_rgb — (red, green, blue, all ui1, 0 to 255) but if warm or cold white are not to "0", zwavejsui doesn't change them and I can't find a way to change into rgb or from rgb back to warm white. So if I use from reactor: rgb_color set_rgb — (235,33,33) in zwavejsui I have x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: targetColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: targetColor 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: currentColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: currentColor In zwavejsui, the bulb changes rgb set but warm White remains to "204" and the bulb remais on warm White channel bacause is prevalent on rgb set. x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_0=204 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_1=0 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_2=235 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_3=33 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_4=33 Is it possible to targetColor also for "warmWhite" and "coldWhite" and have something similar to this? x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"warmWhite":0,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} Thanks in advance.
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Expressions and LuaXP Functions

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    LibraSun
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    #55

    @toggledbits I can't seem to concoct a meaningful example of DO .. DONE, since I'm probably not grasping its intended function within the MSR framework.
    Does it have a use here, and if so, how would such a statement look? Thanks!

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      wrote on last edited by toggledbits
      #56

      do...done is intended to help the first and each statements (but can be used anywhere, really).

      1. the each and first statements operate only on a single expression;
      2. do...done encapsulates multiple expressions (separated by comma), but looks like a single expression to each and first;
      3. The result of a do...done statement is the value of the last expression executed within it.

      Here from my own configuration is an example:

      each detector in leak_detectors: 
      do 
        d=getEntity(detector), 
        d.attributes.arming.state && d.attributes.binary_sensor.state ? d.id : null 
      done
      

      There's a separate expression called leak_detectors that provides an array of leak detector entity IDs (canonical, across controllers, of course). The each statement iterates over each of them. The do...done encapsulates two expressions: the fetch of the entity stored to a local variable in the first, and then uses that local variable twice in the second expression. The result of the do...done is the result of the last expression, which is the detector's ID if it is armed and tripped, or null otherwise. With an each expression, any nulls do not appear in the final array.

      The idea should be familiar from RFV, although the construction is a little different: it's a loop over a list of known leak detectors and builds an array of those that are armed and in alarm (if any, hopefully not).

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        LibraSun
        wrote on last edited by
        #57

        For a lark, I defined a test variable as:

        testObj = { a:5, b:2, c:"cat"},
        each num in values(testObj):
        r = isNaN(num) ? " That's all!" : "Libra owns " + num + " cats"
        

        which spits out:

         ["Libra owns 5 cats","Libra owns 2 cats","Libra owns cat cats"]
        

        while I had actually expected (due to the NaN:

         ["Libra owns 5 cats","Libra owns 2 cats"," That's all!"]
        

        Also, am noticing that the Expression 'value' windows always contract to their initial (1.25-line tall) height, rather than remember what the user enlarged them to.

        Are both of these "expected behaviors" in MSR??

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          toggledbits
          wrote on last edited by toggledbits
          #58

          The isNaN() is a yes... unlike JavaScript, the lexpjs isNaN() literally tests to see if the argument is NaN, which "cat" is not. You'd need to write your test as r = isNaN( int( num ) ) ? ...etc.

          I can't store your selected/custom field sizes. I haven't poked harder into getting it to auto-size. I've done that before, but for some reason it isn't working and I haven't bothered to track it down yet.

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            LibraSun
            wrote on last edited by
            #59

            I'm back with another whopper. Variables allow multiple comma-separated statements, like:

            b = 3, c = b + 2 // yields 5
            

            but go bonkers when you try:

            testArr = [1,2,3], testArr[1] = 5 // parsing error (similar result with Objects)
            

            By design?

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              toggledbits
              wrote on last edited by
              #60

              Yes, assignment to simple variables only; the left side of an assignment can only be an identifier (right now).

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              • LibraSunL Offline
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                LibraSun
                wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                #61

                This one's got me stumped now:
                testCalc =

                each num in [4,5,6]:
                do
                [num, num+1, num+2]
                done
                

                yields:
                [[4,5,6],[4,5,6],[4,5,6]]
                instead of:
                [[4,5,6],[5,6,7],[6,7,8]]

                Or have I stumbled again? (I do realize the DO..DONE is a red herring, but removing it doesn't change the result.)

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                  toggledbits
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #62

                  Nope, that's clearly wrong. Not hard to fix. I found a spot where the executive was rewriting a variable rather than returning a copy, specific to arrays, so this particular test would hit it, any other data type would not. Good catch!

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                    LibraSun
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #63

                    Already posted as a PR with much-simplified rendering of underlying formula.

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                      toggledbits
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #64

                      OK. It may or may not make today's build. I'm still testing other parts of my parser changes.

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                        LibraSun
                        wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                        #65

                        Here's an odd response, to an expression defined (in 21085) as:

                        testStr = [  "cat", "  dog", "idle  ", "  jump  "  ],
                        trim(testStr)
                        

                        // result = (string) "cat, dog,idle , jump"
                        // note (a) the lopsided leftover spaces, (b) concatenation into a single string, (c) type coercion into String
                        // unsure whether trim() ought even accept Array as input?

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                          LibraSun
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #66

                          Meanwhile, this expression is returning the original string when I actually use a Regex as the "split" term:

                          testStr = "Th3 sw1ft br0wn c4t!",
                          split (testStr,"1",2)
                          

                          // returns ["Th3 sw","ft br0wn c4t!"]
                          // expected

                          testStr = "Th3 sw1ft br0wn c4t!",
                          split (testStr,"\d",2)
                          

                          // returns ["Th3 sw1ft br0wn c4t!"]
                          // unexpected

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                            LibraSun
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #67

                            Another to ponder:

                            testObj = {animal:"cat",planet:"earth",size:"big"},
                            k = keys(testObj),
                            each key in k:
                            v = testObj.key
                            

                            produces an empty array [] rather than (the expected) ["cat","earth","big"]. (Won't parse at all using .[key] btw.)

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                              toggledbits
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                              The correct syntax here is testObj[key]

                              Basically, [] and . are nearly equivalent member accessors. In JavaScript and lexpjs you can, for example, use array.0 to refer to the first element of an array, same as array[0]. The difference between them is that the interior of [] can be an expression, where . must only have an identifier on its right-hand side. So when you testObj[key], it will use the value of key for the member access. It would also be the case that testObj.animal and testObj['animal'] are equivalent.

                              Your earlier split (testStr,"\d",2) example doesn't work because "\d" is parsed as escape plus d, which is simply the letter d, which is not what you want. You want a literal backslash followed by a d, which would be the string "\\d" to get the RegExp character class for digits 0-9. This is also the way JavaScript would parse it and behave:

                              > t="The quick brown f0x"
                              'The quick brown f0x'
                              > t.match( "\d" )
                              null                      <---- No match!
                              > t.match( "\\d" )
                              [ '0', index: 17, input: 'The quick brown f0x', groups: undefined ]
                              >
                              
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                                LibraSun
                                wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                                #69

                                Ah, typical of me not to have known the precise array['key'] syntax offhand.
                                Yay, that variant works as advertised. (You were supposed to be out having fun today!)
                                And thanks for the pro tip re: "slash"-escaping the right way.
                                I was thrown off by this one working as expected (even without the double slash construct):

                                testStr = "Does this work?",
                                match(testStr,"\st")
                                

                                // yields " t"

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                                  toggledbits
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #70

                                  Fun!? I'm Clonezilla-ing everyone's desktops, and retiring my old Linux server that has served as the main NAS, moving the Synology into that role. Lots of services to move (which has been done over time, but the last-minute cut-overs for some things that couldn't), etc. Busy busy!

                                  The other example, "\s" is an unrecognized escape sequence so it's leaking it. I'll fix that. "\s" is what's required.

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                                      LibraSun
                                      wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                                      #72

                                      This one is only funny because it's true:

                                      indexof=["indexOf(indexof,indexOf)!"],
                                      indexOf(indexof,"indexOf")!=indexof
                                      

                                      This one is just plain funny:

                                      HA={ha:'HA'},
                                      ha={HA:HA['ha']},
                                      HA={ha:ha.HA}
                                      

                                      Result: ["ha":"HA"] 😆

                                      And yet these are both uncharacteristically false?

                                      [[[]]]===[[[]]]
                                      [1]===[1]
                                      

                                      despite both sides having length 1 and being of the same Type?
                                      So is this (false); a bit surprising but that kinda makes sense with Objects...

                                      {a:1}=={a:1}
                                      

                                      Seriously though, I do have a slight concern about this evaluating to FALSE when it is axiomatically and mathematically TRUE:

                                      sin(1)/cos(1)==tan(1)
                                      // false, due to rounding in the 16th decimal place!
                                      
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                                      • LibraSunL LibraSun

                                        This one is only funny because it's true:

                                        indexof=["indexOf(indexof,indexOf)!"],
                                        indexOf(indexof,"indexOf")!=indexof
                                        

                                        This one is just plain funny:

                                        HA={ha:'HA'},
                                        ha={HA:HA['ha']},
                                        HA={ha:ha.HA}
                                        

                                        Result: ["ha":"HA"] 😆

                                        And yet these are both uncharacteristically false?

                                        [[[]]]===[[[]]]
                                        [1]===[1]
                                        

                                        despite both sides having length 1 and being of the same Type?
                                        So is this (false); a bit surprising but that kinda makes sense with Objects...

                                        {a:1}=={a:1}
                                        

                                        Seriously though, I do have a slight concern about this evaluating to FALSE when it is axiomatically and mathematically TRUE:

                                        sin(1)/cos(1)==tan(1)
                                        // false, due to rounding in the 16th decimal place!
                                        
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                                        toggledbits
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #73

                                        @librasun said in Expressions and LuaXP Functions:

                                        And yet these are both uncharacteristically false?
                                        [[[]]]===[[[]]]
                                        [1]===[1]

                                        Comparing objects (arrays are objects) is basically meaningless because you are actually trying to determine if they are the same object (i.e. identical types and sizes of data that occupy the same storage in RAM). They are not. JavaScript produces the same result (not surprisingly). This is a common error new programmers make, but it's language-dependent and can bite people making transitions between. Some languages will make deep comparisons of objects/arrays, but most that I've worked with do not. Python stands out as the exception for modern, and Lisp going back in my history. But it's not intrinsic in C, C++, Java, or JavaScript, for example (Java does it as methods of classes, so that's an explicit implementation, not a native language feature on intrinsic types).

                                        @librasun said in Expressions and LuaXP Functions:

                                        Seriously though, I do have a slight concern about this evaluating to FALSE when it is axiomatically and mathematically TRUE:
                                        sin(1)/cos(1)==tan(1)
                                        // false, due to rounding in the 16th decimal place!

                                        Another common error programmers make: comparing floats directly for equality. Remember that all numbers in our computers are represented as integers. In the case of a floating point number, the typical representation is (simplifying a bit) some number of bits for a mantissa and some number of bits for an exponent. The number of bits for each limits the precision and range of what can be represented. So some rounding on the edges and beyond of the precision of the representation is normal and expected. It is always an error in programming to test if a floating point result is equal to another, therefore. One better/correct way to do it see if the absolute value of the difference between the two floats is very small, e.g. abs( ( sin(1)/cos(1) ) - tan(1 ) ) < 0.000001. Sometimes you will also need to consider the magnitude of the operands, as this effects the precision of the subtraction's result.

                                        The other factor is that the implementation of sin(), cos() and tan() (and all similar) will have inherent precision limitations and errors (there are many methods, with tables for interpolation being a very common, fast approach, but not big on accuracy). Woe unto the structural or aerospace engineer who does not understand the implementation and limitations of the libraries on which his computation programs are based.

                                        So as a software engineer, I would never expect that statement to be true on any computer, although as you say, it should be when read axionatically and mathemetically. Every result a computer produces is an approximation. The question how good the approximation is, and whether that's within the acceptable margin of error for the purpose.

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                                          Very good takeaways to bear in mind, thanks!

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