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[Reactor] Help with screne controller cycling logic
therealdbT
I’ve added a couple of Shelly Wave i4 as scene controllers and I’m planning to add more, since I can just use standard buttons instead of battery-powered scene controllers, which also looks better aesthetically. That said, I’m struggling to figure out how to write a simple rule that cycles between states every time I press a button. Example: Light 1 ON → OFF, then Light 2 ON → OFF. The part I can’t get right is handling the case where Light 1 or Light 2 might already be ON independently of the rule. Maybe it’s just too much sun and relaxation clouding my brain, but any hint would be appreciated.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
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Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page. Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones. Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025) What have I done?! Will check other browsers on my M1. UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour. I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
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@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
tunnusT
I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Advice reqeusted to migrate MSR from Bare Metal to Container
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Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Strange temperature readings from OpenWeather

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    (This is most likely an issue with OpenWeather, but I'm posting here to see if anyone else is seeing the same issue in their OpenWeather data)

    MSR 22053 on Raspberry Pi 4 in Docker

    I have a rule that turns on a heater in my chicken coop when the temperature (is less than 33 degrees F) OR if (the temperature is less than 36 degrees AND the heater is already on). This way the heater turns on at temp < 33 and doesn't turn off until temp >= 36. I also push a notification to my phone when the heater turns on and off so I can keep an eye on what it's doing.

    This has been running without issue all winter, but today I saw notifications that the heater had turned on and off several times in the early morning. That is unusual as generally the 3 degree difference between the on temp and the off temp prevents fluttering of the rule state.

    I checked another OpenWeather feed that I have on my Node-Red UI dashboard and it was showing 36 degrees at the same time Reactor was showing <32 degrees. I also checked the OpenWeather site for my location and it was showing 36.

    I restarted Reactor to try to refresh the reading (I don't know if a restart does that) and it still showed <32 degrees. I checked the time stamp showing in MSR and confirmed that value was only 2 minutes old, which was close to the restart time.

    Here is a Grafana chart of the outside temp this morning as seen by Reactor:

    056b9194-93ec-458c-81e9-6d5678fefb3b-image.png

    Those steps are 3 or 4 degree fluctuations. Looking back at older data I see some ups and downs, but they're generally .1 degree fluctuations.

    This is a 24 hour period 1 week ago ("now -7d" to "now -6d"). The curve trends either up or down without swinging.

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    The "noisy" data seems to start 2 days ago. This is "now -2d" to "now -1d":

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    I'm probably going to add in a 'sustained for' condition on my rule so that it takes multiple data points to change the state of the heater switch. MSR updates the weather every 15 minutes, and looking at the data a 1-hour sustained condition would filter out most of the noise.

    It's just really odd that I'm getting different temp readings in MSR than what I see in my other OpenWeather feed or the OpenWeather website when I update both just a few seconds apart.

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      toggledbits
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      There are different queries that can be made, and different versions of the APIs as well. The OWMWeatherController in Reactor uses the API 2.5 weather query described here. I know that many other subsystems use the newer "One Call" endpoint. The location also matters. Since OWM integrates weather information from multiple sources, it may include or exclude sources based on the proximity to the given location. For example, if you specify a lat-long, you may get weather data that includes information from a near neighbor that has a published weather station, where if you use the city code for location, it will not include that station. This has a big effect; I live about 30km from KATL (Hartsfield-Atlanta Intl Airport) and 5 from KFFC (Falcon Field Executive Airport), and temperatures and humidity vary widely comparing OWM, KATL, KFFC, and my own local station.

      Edit: I just peeked at the code for the OWM NR node, and it lets you choose weather you use the weather endpoint or the onecall endpoint by configuration. Any idea which you are using? It would be in the settings for the node, and the choices would be forecast, current, or onecall as seen there.

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        There are different queries that can be made, and different versions of the APIs as well. The OWMWeatherController in Reactor uses the API 2.5 weather query described here. I know that many other subsystems use the newer "One Call" endpoint. The location also matters. Since OWM integrates weather information from multiple sources, it may include or exclude sources based on the proximity to the given location. For example, if you specify a lat-long, you may get weather data that includes information from a near neighbor that has a published weather station, where if you use the city code for location, it will not include that station. This has a big effect; I live about 30km from KATL (Hartsfield-Atlanta Intl Airport) and 5 from KFFC (Falcon Field Executive Airport), and temperatures and humidity vary widely comparing OWM, KATL, KFFC, and my own local station.

        Edit: I just peeked at the code for the OWM NR node, and it lets you choose weather you use the weather endpoint or the onecall endpoint by configuration. Any idea which you are using? It would be in the settings for the node, and the choices would be forecast, current, or onecall as seen there.

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        @toggledbits I live less that 15 miles from KCHS (NWS at Charleston Intl Airport/Joint Base Charleston) and have a backyard weather station. The temps can vary up to 5ºF and the winds are almost always higher by a couple MPH at KCHS.

        Like @alan_f I drive my HVAC, fountain, all kinda things off of my Ambient API backed up by OWM's API. Only difference here, I do not use the MSR config for OWM, I just call the API directly.

        *Hubitat C-7 2.4.2.129
        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

        *HASS 2025.7.2
        w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
        MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
        MQTTController: 25139
        ZWave Controller: 25139

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          There are different queries that can be made, and different versions of the APIs as well. The OWMWeatherController in Reactor uses the API 2.5 weather query described here. I know that many other subsystems use the newer "One Call" endpoint. The location also matters. Since OWM integrates weather information from multiple sources, it may include or exclude sources based on the proximity to the given location. For example, if you specify a lat-long, you may get weather data that includes information from a near neighbor that has a published weather station, where if you use the city code for location, it will not include that station. This has a big effect; I live about 30km from KATL (Hartsfield-Atlanta Intl Airport) and 5 from KFFC (Falcon Field Executive Airport), and temperatures and humidity vary widely comparing OWM, KATL, KFFC, and my own local station.

          Edit: I just peeked at the code for the OWM NR node, and it lets you choose weather you use the weather endpoint or the onecall endpoint by configuration. Any idea which you are using? It would be in the settings for the node, and the choices would be forecast, current, or onecall as seen there.

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          @toggledbits My Node-red weather is using the onecall URL.

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