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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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DynamicGroupController and attributes
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
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Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
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As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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Ooops - Deleted Reactor Ex Machina II
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I accidentally deleted Reactor Ex Machina II (REM II) from my Reactor rules. I tried to recover it by deleting the .json and .dval in the Rules subdirectory and then recreating it from Togglebits original posting, but that did not work. Does anyone know how to recover REM ll ?
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Bail out of failed reaction?
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[Solved] DynamicGroupController updating members issue
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Edit: Solved in latest-26221. Bare-metal latest-26193 I have this group: "OKforLarm": name: OK för Larm select: - include_controller: vera - include_capability: door_sensor filter_expression: entity.attributes.door_sensor.state It contains the entities I expect but behaves a bit odd. When I open vera>device_10097 the entity attribute door_sensor.state changes to true but it won't show up as member in the group, when I also open vera>device_10095 they both shows as members and when I close vera>device_10095 it disappear from the group but when I close vera>device_10097 it lingers in the group until I restart Reactor.
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Logon screen timeout
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Noticing since 170 that the lock screen doesn't switch to the logon prompt but, rather, stays on the active UI until such time as you go to click something within it. Then it jumps to the login screen. Brave browser Brave 1.92.139 (Official Build) (arm64) Chromium: 150.0.7871.114
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
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Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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Upgrade advice - upgrade from aarch64 to ARM64 image
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I'm currently on version 26011. I understand that the aarch64 image is no longer supported. So, I therefore need to update to the ARM64 image. Can anyone possibly suggest how I update my docker compose.yaml file (see below). Ideally I'd like to keep my existing reactions etc. rather than start from scratch. # Multi-System Reactor template docker-compose.yml (version 22160) # # Change the lines indicated by "DO"... # services: reactor: container_name: reactor environment: # DO change the TZ: line to set your local time zone. # See valid TZ list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones TZ: GB # # DO NOT change this path. Your directory location is in "source" below. REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX: /var/reactor # DO change the image below to the one you are using (e.g. armv7l or aarch64 for RPi 4) image: toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64 restart: "always" expose: - 8111 ports: - 8111:8111 volumes: # DO change the /home/username/reactor below to the directory you created for # your local data; DO NOT change the /var/reactor part - /home/pi/docker/reactor:/var/reactor - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro tmpfs: /tmp
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  • CatmanV2C Offline
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    CatmanV2
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    After much (un-necessary) faffing on Debian 10 I got MSR up and running in about 10 minutes flat this morning, on the same box as AltUI

    As a warning, expect lots of stupid questions. 😉

    C

    The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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      CatmanV2
      wrote on last edited by CatmanV2
      #2

      Ummm, ok this is embarrassing....

      I'm actually stuck on creating the simplest rule set / reaction. I can't see anything in the manual that indicates my stupidity, and it's surely not a bug so here goes.

      Bare metal install on Debian 10
      Simple 'AND' test rule which I can see setting and resetting as the conditions change.

      I have tried putting a reaction in that rule set to turn on a light. So literally
      Entity action > Table Lamp > power_switch.on

      If I press the 'Try this action' button from within the reaction, the light goes on.
      If I press the 'Run Now' button from the Global reactions list:

      1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:20:45.257Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Test motion lights<SET> (rule-l3n662g0:S)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:20:45.257Z <Engine:INFO> Test motion lights<SET> all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:20:59.510Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:192.168.70.64
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:21:13.051Z <wsapi:INFO> client "192.168.70.64#4" closed, code=1001, reason=
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:21:15.726Z <Rule:INFO> Test motion lights (Rule#rule-l3n662g0) RESET!
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:25:03.556Z <VeraController:ERR> VeraController#vera update request failed: [FetchError]FetchError: network timeout at: http://192.168.70.249:3480/data_request?id=status&DataVersion=938493960&Timeout=15&MinimumDe
      lay=50&output_format=json&_r=1653582285543
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:26:17.531Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:26:17.536Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Simple Test Reaction (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:26:17.537Z <Engine:INFO> Simple Test Reaction all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:26:45.444Z <VeraController:null> VeraController#vera enqueued task for Entity#vera>device_20200 action power_switch.on: task [Object]{ "newTargetValue": "1", "DeviceNum": 20200, "id": "action", "serviceId": "urn
      :upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1", "action": "SetTarget" }
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:26:49.094Z <VeraController:null> VeraController#vera enqueued task for Entity#vera>device_20200 action power_switch.on: task [Object]{ "newTargetValue": "1", "DeviceNum": 20200, "id": "action", "serviceId": "urn:upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1", "action": "SetTarget" }
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:26:59.543Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:26:59.543Z <Engine:NOTICE> Reaction re-l3n7rrij (Simple Test Reaction) is disabled; run aborted.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:27:03.286Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:27:03.287Z <Engine:NOTICE> Reaction re-l3n7rrij (Simple Test Reaction) is disabled; run aborted.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:27:20.861Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:27:20.861Z <Engine:NOTICE> Reaction re-l3n7rrij (Simple Test Reaction) is disabled; run aborted.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:27:23.575Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:27:23.576Z <Engine:NOTICE> Reaction re-l3n7rrij (Simple Test Reaction) is disabled; run aborted.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:27:47.538Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:27:47.542Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Simple Test Reaction (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:27:47.543Z <Engine:INFO> Simple Test Reaction all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:28:14.393Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:28:14.397Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Simple Test Reaction (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:28:14.397Z <Engine:INFO> Simple Test Reaction all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:28:24.225Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:28:24.228Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Simple Test Reaction (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:28:24.229Z <Engine:INFO> Simple Test Reaction all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:28:35.395Z <VeraController:null> VeraController#vera enqueued task for Entity#vera>device_20200 action power_switch.on: task [Object]{ "newTargetValue": "1", "DeviceNum": 20200, "id": "action", "serviceId": "urn:upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1", "action": "SetTarget" }
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:29:12.974Z <VeraController:null> VeraController#vera enqueued task for Entity#vera>device_20160 action power_switch.on: task [Object]{ "newTargetValue": "1", "DeviceNum": 20160, "id": "action", "serviceId": "urn:upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1", "action": "SetTarget" }
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:29:25.885Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:29:25.889Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Simple Test Reaction (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:29:25.889Z <Engine:INFO> Simple Test Reaction all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:29:50.139Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:29:50.143Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Simple Test Reaction (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:29:50.143Z <Engine:INFO> Simple Test Reaction all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:33:05.815Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:33:05.825Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Simple Test Reaction (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:33:05.826Z <Engine:INFO> Simple Test Reaction all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:35:15.688Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:35:15.692Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Simple Test Reaction (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:35:15.692Z <Engine:INFO> Simple Test Reaction all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:37:17.185Z <VeraController:null> VeraController#vera enqueued task for Entity#vera>device_20160 action power_switch.on: task [Object]{ "newTargetValue": "1", "DeviceNum": 20160, "id": "action", "serviceId": "urn:upnp-org:serviceId:SwitchPower1", "action": "SetTarget" }
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:37:44.912Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Simple Test Reaction" (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:37:44.916Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Simple Test Reaction (re-l3n7rrij)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:37:44.917Z <Engine:INFO> Simple Test Reaction all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:38:39.696Z <Rule:INFO> Test motion lights (Rule#rule-l3n662g0) SET!
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:38:39.703Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Test motion lights<SET>" (rule-l3n662g0:S)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:38:39.717Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Test motion lights<SET> (rule-l3n662g0:S)
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:38:39.717Z <Engine:INFO> Test motion lights<SET> all actions completed.
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:39:10.418Z <Rule:INFO> Test motion lights (Rule#rule-l3n662g0) RESET!
      [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:41:56.241Z <VeraController:ERR> VeraController#vera update request failed: [FetchError]FetchError: network timeout at: http://192.168.70.249:3480/data_request?id=status&DataVersion=938494294&Timeout=15&MinimumDelay=50&output_format=json&_r=1653583298238
      
      

      But the light never comes on

      Similarly although the test Rule set is supposed to trigger 'Simple Test Reaction', the light never turns on.

      The reaction is enabled. The rule set is enabled.

      Time zone is BST (trying to conform to the log requests in the manual!)

      I'm sorry! It's going to be something really dumb but I've spent about an hour so far 😞

      C

      The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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        #3

        Screenshot of the ruleset?

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        Core 2026.7.4
        w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
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        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
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          Screenshot of the ruleset?

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          CatmanV2
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @gwp1 said in Up and running:

          Screenshot of the ruleset?

          Of course, but given the Reaction doesn't do anything...
          Screenshot 2022-05-26 at 19.46.47.png

          It's crazy simple. Obviously the rule won't trigger under these circumstances as the motion sensor is not tripped, but even when it does....no reaction

          Cheers

          C

          The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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            wrote on last edited by toggledbits
            #5

            Well, first, you're on an ancient build. I would start by getting on latest.

            After that, the log messages are telling you it can't talk to the Vera. Do you see those?

            [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:25:03.556Z <VeraController:ERR> VeraController#vera update request failed: [FetchError]FetchError: network timeout at: http://192.168.70.249:3480/data_request?id=status&DataVersion=938493960&Timeout=15&MinimumDe
            lay=50&output_format=json&_r=1653582285543
            

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            • toggledbitsT toggledbits

              Well, first, you're on an ancient build. I would start by getting on latest.

              After that, the log messages are telling you it can't talk to the Vera. Do you see those?

              [1.0.2-21350]2022-05-26T16:25:03.556Z <VeraController:ERR> VeraController#vera update request failed: [FetchError]FetchError: network timeout at: http://192.168.70.249:3480/data_request?id=status&DataVersion=938493960&Timeout=15&MinimumDe
              lay=50&output_format=json&_r=1653582285543
              
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              CatmanV2
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @toggledbits Ahh, OK. I didn't check the version. I'll upgrade.

              Yes I did see it can't talk to Vera but given that I can run the action directly I figured that was looking at something else it was trying to do.....

              Clearly all the entities are in place, and updating in real time, as is the rule set so my takeaway was that it can talk to Vera (at least for these functions.

              Cheers

              C

              The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                OK, updated and working.

                Told you it would be something stupid, although it was only 2 months old 😉

                Thanks, as ever

                C

                The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                  OK, updated and working.

                  Told you it would be something stupid, although it was only 2 months old 😉

                  Thanks, as ever

                  C

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                  #8

                  @catmanv2 said in Up and running:

                  although it was only 2 months old

                  If you mean the release, the stamp 21350 means December 16, 2021, so that's more than five months ago. Things change fast around here!

                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                    @catmanv2 said in Up and running:

                    although it was only 2 months old

                    If you mean the release, the stamp 21350 means December 16, 2021, so that's more than five months ago. Things change fast around here!

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                    @toggledbits said in Up and running:

                    @catmanv2 said in Up and running:

                    although it was only 2 months old

                    If you mean the release, the stamp 21350 means December 16, 2021, so that's more than five months ago. Things change fast around here!

                    Ahh I was looking at the date stamp on the download. Thanks, as ever 🙂

                    C

                    The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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