Trying to understand what cause a local expresssion to be evaluated. I have read the manual but I am still not clear about it. Using the test rule below, I can see in the log that the rule is being automatically evaluated every time the temperature entity is changing. That is great...

What I am trying to understand is why the expression is not evaluated based on time as well since the "case" statement has time dependencies.

Any help would be appreciated

I have the following test rule:

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Here is the expressioncode:

vFrom1 = "09:25:00", vFrom2 = "09:30:00", vFrom3 = "09:41:00", vTo = "10:55:00", # Get current time (format HH:MM:SS) vToDay = strftime("%H:%M:%S"), #Get current house temperature CurrentHouseTemp = getEntity( "hass>Thermostat2 " ).attributes.temperature_sensor.value, case when CurrentHouseTemp <= 19 and vToDay >= vFrom1 && vToDay <= vTo: "true1" # From1 when CurrentHouseTemp <= 20 and vToDay >= vFrom2 && vToDay <= vTo: "true2" # From2 when CurrentHouseTemp < 26  and vToDay >= vFrom3 && vToDay <= vTo: "true3" # From3 else "false" end

I am getting a Runtime error on different browsers when I click exit when editing an existing or creating a new global reaction containing a group. If the global reaction does not have a group I don't get an error. I see a similar post on the forum about a Runtime Error when creating reactions but started a new thread as that appears to be solved.

The Runtime Error is different in the two browsers
Safari v18.3

@http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:44 You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.

Google Chrome 133.0.6943.142

TypeError: self.editor.isModified is not a function at HTMLButtonElement.<anonymous> (http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:34) You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.

Steps to reproduce:
Click the pencil to edit a global reaction with a group.
Click the Exit button.
Runtime error appears.
or
Click Create Reaction
Click Add Action
Select Group
Add Condition such as Entity Attribute.
Add an Action.
Click Save
Click Exit
Runtime error appears.

I don’t know how long the error has been there as I haven’t edited the global reaction in a long time.

Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25060-f32eaa46
Docker
Mac OS: 15.3.1
Thanks

I am trying to delete a global expression (gLightDelay) but for some strange reason, it comes back despite clicking the Delete this expression and Save Changes buttons.

I have not created a global expression for some times and just noticed this while doing some clean-up.

I have upgraded Reactor to 25067 from 25060 and the behaviour is still there. I have restarted Reactor (as well as restarting its container) and cleared the browser's cache several times without success.

Here's what the log shows.

[latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:22.690Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:26.254Z <GlobalExpression:NOTICE> Deleting global expression gLightDelay [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:27.887Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" }

Reactor latest-25067-62e21a2d
Docker on Synology NAS

Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.

Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.

Hello all, after seeing Catman's posts about their disaster recovery and move to Docker I took that as a sign to migrate everything (aside from HA) to Docker. After a small learning curve I had Docker+Portainer up and running in a few days.

Instead of using named Volumes I opted to use Bind Mounts so I can easily edit conf files and any other file needed. I do understand the nuances that come with bind mounts, such as migration to a different host may require changing file structures, the possibility of someone editing the bind mount files and permissions but to me those aren't too big of a deal.

My question is what is the best way to keep a back up of these bind mounts? I currently have them stored in the /etc directory in another directory named on a per container basis. I was thinking to move it all to a /home/user/docker/ directory so that I can use a simple cp command to my mounted SMB share to backup all the container data files. Anyone else do it differently?

Side note: I finally got to flex the benefits of Docker with updating Reactor.. it was dead simple. I had no idea what I was missing out on lol!

Following on from my last thread, some progress has been made over the weekend.

With 18G of spanky RAM in my Synology DS224+. I've jumped into the murky world of virtualisation and already eliminated the need for two Raspberry Pi's from my system.

Home Assistant: In theory they provide an OVA file which is supported by the Synology. I couldn't get it to work, however, so grabbed a copy of the .img file they supply, renamed it .iso and imported it as a VM. Restored from my full back up and that all seems fantastic.

Minidnla Music server: Trivial. Grabbed a Debian .iso for Bookworm and copied that onto the NAS. Created a new machine which mirrored the specs of the Raspberry Pi, booted from the ISO then did an expert install. Once that was all stable with a basic core of stuff and networking, I've made a copy of that as a good base system. Then fired up minidnla on it, mounted my media and that's also woking. Not bad for a short weekend's work.

Still not sure about the main NUC though. I'm thinking of buying a new USB stick so I can mess around getting it working on the Synology before I do anything drastic.

Once that hurdle is sorted I'm torn between:

Using a brand new install of Bookworm, re-installing Z-way server, OpenLuup, AltUI, MSR and HA bridge, then restoring across or Making an ISO of the current system, importing that and upgrading in place (which will be pretty risk free since I can snapshot everything before I make any changes.)

Decisions, decisions.

C

Morning, experts. Hard on learning about the internet check script in MSR tools, I was wondering what suggestions anyone has about a local (i.e. non-internet dependent) notification method.

This was prompted by yesterday's fun and games with my ISP.

I've got the script Cronned and working properly but short of flashing a light on and off, I'm struggling to think of a way of alerting me (ideally to my phone)

I guess I could set up a Discord server at home, but that feels like overkill for a rare occasion. Any other suggestions?

TIA

C

Hi everyone. Thanks for all your input recently on the topic of local notifications. I think we got some really interesting solutions 🙂

Back to more prosaic matters. Most of you will know that I've been messing around with this stuff for some years. My last major change was when I migrated from Vera, which was something like 4-5 years ago.

While my system has grown, it's not really altered very regularly, although I try to keep most of it kind of up to date.

Current set up:
Intel NUC that runs:
Bare metal install of Debian
Z-way server with Z-wave.me USB stick
Openluup
Altui
Multi system reactor
HA Bridge
Mosquito

Raspberry Pi
Running Home Assistant

About 40 varied Z-wave and Wifi devices

I also have a Synology DS224+ which may inform some responses.

Home Assistant recovery is pretty simple. I get a full backup of the system every night dumped onto my SAN and I know from experience that it would simply be a case of booting up a new install and feeding it the backup.

The NUC on the other hand....
Coming from a commercial IT world, I am becoming more and more conscious that I don't really feel I have a suitable disaster recovery plan, and my core system is running on hardware heading for 10 years old.

My initial thought, which I've kept putting off as it's awkward would be to grab a nice SSD, reboot the NUC into Mint or something similar and simply do a dd copy onto a new drive. I can get a replacement NUC on ebay simply enough, and keep it in a cupboard if anything other than the hard drive fails on the existing one, but this feels rather like a stop gap. However one immediate question:

If I had to use the replacement NUC would all the Z-wave devices simply carry on talking to the stick, or would they all need to be re-paired?

How easy would it be to move everything the NUC does (as a start) onto the NAS? Create a VM and clone the disc onto it?

Should I move to Docker? Something else?

What are the hive mind's thoughts?

Apologies if we've done this before, but while it all just works...

Cheers!

C

Morning world. Looking for some thoughts on recent experience 🙂

Yesterday my ISP had something of a catastrophic failure (in theory not yet fixed but seems OK for now)

While this is annoying for several reasons, one thing that I wasn't expecting was for AltUI to become pretty much un-usable.

Unless I have a tab already open and active, connecting to the Home page is pretty much random / impossible, just presenting with a white page and (sometimes) 'Waiting for initial data' on the bottom. Everything works (i.e. where I have controllers or Reactions I can trigger, they function flawlessly) it's just something of a pain since 99.9% of my control is via Alexa now, and not being able to access devices in AltUI makes things like turning some lights of a bit tricky 😉

I suspect that this is due to AltUI trying to pull licence info and Weather data, and failing. What I should do is probably access the OpelLuup console direct and see if that works better in future.

Does that make sense to anyone, or am I completely off track?

Cheers

C

Hi all. First post so please be gentle.

I have an Eachen two-gang smart wall switch wired no neutral (with capacitor) connected to existing bathroom lights which works perfectly. It's also wired to a Sonoff Mini R4 Extreme connected to LED lights. I want the LED lights to switch on when the bathroom lights switch on (and vice versa). The Mini R4 works separately on my phone via Ewelink as well as on the Mini R4 itself (physical button). The switch is installed inside the wall and the rest of the components are in the ceiling / attic / roof cavity. The Mini R4 is set to Edge switch mode which works in my example I wired.

How I wired it:

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I have a video showcasing the example I wired today works. I could share it if required. Ignore the white cable. I only used it to power the example.

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The wiring diagram I used for the mini R4.

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I wired it together with the existing lights of the bathroom so that L1 switches on both the Mini R4 and the bathroom lights:

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This is the wiring diagram for the Eachen switch:
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The Eachen's first gang (L1) doesn't trigger the Mini R4 in any way.

Any help or advice will be much appreciated.

Thanks,
R

Hi,
I'm trying to integrate the sonos-mqtt (https://sonos2mqtt.svrooij.io/) with the MSR and it's coming along nicely so far.
But cannot wrap my head around how to define custom capabilities in MQTT templates. I need this for the TTS announcements and similarly for the notification sounds where I would pass the sound file as parameter.

So this is what I have in the local_mqtt_devices.yaml

capabilities: x_sonos_announcement: attributes: actions: speak: arguments: text: type: string volume: type: int delay: type: int

And this is the template:

templates: sonos-announcement: capabilities: - x_sonos_announcement actions: x_sonos_announcement: speak: topic: "sonos/cmd/speak" payload: expr: > { "text": parameters.text, "volume": parameters.volume, "delayMs": parameters.delay, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" } type: json

So the speak action should send something like this to topic sonos/cmd/speak

{ "text": "message goes here", "volume": 50, "delayMs": 100, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" }

At startup the MSR seems to be quite unhappy with my configuration:

reactor | [latest-25016]2025-02-09T08:19:59.029Z <MQTTController:WARN> MQTTController#mqtt entity Entity#mqtt>sonos-announcement unable to configure capabilities [Array][ "x_sonos_announcement" ] reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} has unrecognized capability {1:q} in actions reactor | Trace: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:611:28) reactor | at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:125:25) reactor | at MQTTController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:627:30) reactor | at MQTTController.start (/var/reactor/ext/MQTTController/MQTTController.js:268:26) reactor | at async Promise.allSettled (index 0) Configuration for "sonos-announcement" has unrecognized capability "x_sonos_announcement" in actions Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM Configuration for "sonos-announcement" is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: x_sonos_announcement Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM

This is probably a pretty stupid question and the approach may not even work at all, but maybe someone or @toggledbits for sure, could point me to the right direction.
Basically the idea is to be able to send TTS messages from reactions using entity actions. I've previously used HTTP requests to Sonos HTTP API (https://hub.docker.com/r/chrisns/docker-node-sonos-http-api/) for the same functionality, but since moving to sonos-mqtt, I need a way to send the TTS notifications using MQTTController. Along with the actual message, volume and delay must also be parameterizable.

br,
mgvra

MSR latest-25016-d47fea38 / MQTTController [0.2.24293]

Hi, @toggledbits

I just noticed that following a reboot of my raspberry pi, some of the rules, that I was expecting to recover, are not catching up following a reboot. I have made a simple test rule (rule-m6rz6ol1) with only "after Date/time" as trigger and "turn on a lamp" as a set reaction. All my infrastructure is on the same board so Reactor, Hass, Zwavejs, ... are all rebooting.

Here is the sequence of the test case (All time converted to Zulu to match logs):

Rule "after Date/Time" set to 14:05:00z Shutdown on Raspberry Pi at 14:04:00z Power back up at 14:08:00z Rule overview shows true as of 14:08:14z waiting for 00:00:00 in GUI

From the log I can see that MSR is picking up the rule and knows that the state of the rule has changed from false to true and tries to send the update to HASS but failed with websocket error.

Here is what I see from the log:

14:04:04z shutdown complete 14:08:08z Power up 14:08:13.111z websocket connection 14:08:15:323z Reaction to the light failed, Websocket not opened After there is a series of websocket connection attempt until 14:08:51z where it seemed to be really ready.

Back in 2021 we had a discussion (https://smarthome.community/topic/700/solved-start-up?_=1738766986566) and you proposed to add a startup_delay:xxxx and startup_wait:xxxx parameter in the engine section of "reactor.yaml". When I try the startup_delay (this used to be a hard delay), the engine failed to start (I think). I then try the startup_wait:xxxx without any success. Since it wait for the connection status to be up to cancel the delay, it does not do anyting since Hass is reporting the socket up without really being up ( I think...).

Questions:

Did I figured it all wrong? should the startup_delay:xxxxx have worked? Any ideas?

Here is the log:

OK now I am stuck. I did add the log but when I submit the editor complained saying that I am limited to 32767 characters. The log from the shutdown to the time the websocket is stable is about 300000 character long. What are my options?

Not a big issue simply a request if easily doable.

The MSR logs files inside the container are owned by root witch is fine however, the permissions are very restrictive. I do not know if there is something wrong with my installation but the logs permission are set to 222 (write only). Even if the docker volume is set for Read/Write the log files are retaining these values.

I go around the problem by doing a chmod 777 on all reactor logs but every time there is an MSR log rotation the permissions are set back to 222. So unless the permission are implemented in the container there is no permanent solution to this (that I know of).

I do not know much about Docker container so I do not know what is involved here.

Can the logfiles permission be simply chaged in the container to at least allow "other" read permission?

Could the MSR log rotation routine implement a chmod to set the permission?

Just a small anoyance

Thanks

@toggledbits In the MSR documentation, under Standard Capabilities, I noticed that the
button.since attribute was deprecated as of version 22256 and the metadata is the preferred way to access the last-modified time of an attribute.

Am I reading this right? Should I stop using it in my rules?

Thanks

When on my bare metal RPi with MSR I had a rule that ran every minute to check Internet status via a script in MSR called reactor_inet_check.sh

I've moved to containerized MSR and see in the instructions that this cannot be run from the container.

The script cannot run within the Reactor docker container. If you are using Reactor in a docker container, the script needs to be run by cron or an equivalent facility on the host system (e.g. some systems, like Synology NAS, have separate task managers that may be used to schedule the repeated execution of tasks such as this).

I've put a script on my container host that calls the reator_inet_check.sh script and it isn't erroring... but I still see the internet status within MSR as null.

Before I go diving down the rabbit hole... should this work?

My cronjob on the proxmox host:
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The contents of msr_internet_check_caller.sh
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Just bought a couple of generic smart plugs and set them up easily using SmartLife app in the house I then plugged one into a workshop over 100m away This workshop has a hardwired internet connection with a separate wireless access router (not mesh) after doing a reset on the device and pairing to the new router it actually works from the house when my phone is connected to a completely separate wifi network - how is that possible ?
I did read something about these devices connecting to a server somewhere in China similar to IP cameras but there is no lag

I need to replace about 15 traditional wall light switches (no neutral wire) to turn on/off all lights with one operation inside the warehouse. And still maintain the ability to control each light individually.

The preference is not to set up a Wifi for each switch to reduce the number of devices connected to the network, and also, they change the Wifi password regularly, so they do not want to change all 15 switches.

I am looking for some solution that will achieve this with either Bluetooth/RF or any other technology.
The warehouse dimensions are about 100ftx100ft with sheetrock walls.

Please assist.

Background: this is a Windows MSR install I've done for our local pool/amenity center just to run some fans and lights (not my daily driver at home). Install went perfectly fine.

Scenario: I want the lights to go on when it's dark enough (even if during a storm, not just after sunset) so I'm using solarRadiation from my weather station to drive that Trigger. Easy stuff.

Issue: sometimes, someone goes in the office and just starts flipping switches and the result can be lights turned on in the daytime or off at night. I'm trying to create a "catch-all" wherein if it is daytime and the lights somehow find their way ON, they will turn themselves back OFF.

I have the following Reaction built:

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I also have this Reaction for opposite, ie the lights find themselves turned off after dark and they will turn themselves back on:

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Here are my two rules:

288cba86-f941-4157-86d9-d8e7487905f7-image.png *NOTE that in my manual testing, ie I turn on the light switch at the incorrect time, when the solarRadiation level changes the Lights ON rule flags and shows as SET. On the next change of solarRadiation it goes back to reset again.

My expectation is that Lights OFF rule should see the lights are on, the solarRadiation is above the set limit, and turn them off. Instead, every other run, the ON rule moves to SET and then reset again on the following run.

Logs appear angry:

[latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:31.696Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Lights ON<RESET>" (rule-m6e4ajh7:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:31.712Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Lights ON<RESET> (rule-m6e4ajh7:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:31.713Z <Engine:INFO> Lights ON<RESET> all actions completed. [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:42.565Z <wsapi:INFO> client "127.0.0.1#3" closed, code=1001, reason= [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:42.753Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/lang [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:42.754Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/lang from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/lang ACL (#7): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/lang", "allow": true, "index": 7 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:42.790Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:42.839Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 client "127.0.0.1#6" authorized [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:43.353Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/systime [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:43.353Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/systime from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/systime ACL (#5): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/systime", "allow": true, "index": 5 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:48.146Z <wsapi:INFO> client "127.0.0.1#6" closed, code=1001, reason= [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:48.308Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/lang [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:48.309Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/lang from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/lang ACL (#7): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/lang", "allow": true, "index": 7 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:48.346Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:48.390Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 client "127.0.0.1#7" authorized [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:49.412Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/systime [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:49.413Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/systime from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/systime ACL (#5): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/systime", "allow": true, "index": 5 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:52.734Z <wsapi:INFO> client "127.0.0.1#7" closed, code=1001, reason= [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:52.891Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/lang [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:52.892Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/lang from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/lang ACL (#7): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/lang", "allow": true, "index": 7 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:52.925Z <wsapi:INFO> wsapi: connection from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:52.965Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 client "127.0.0.1#8" authorized [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:54.383Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 API request from ::ffff:127.0.0.1: GET /api/v1/systime [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:03:54.384Z <httpapi:INFO> [HTTPAPI]#1 request for /api/v1/systime from ::ffff:127.0.0.1 user anonymous auth none matches /api/v1/systime ACL (#5): [Object]{ "url": "/api/v1/systime", "allow": true, "index": 5 } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:01.590Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.646Z <Rule:INFO> Lights OFF (rule-m6e33ja3 in Atrium Lights) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to SET! [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.656Z <Rule:INFO> Lights ON (rule-m6e4ajh7 in Atrium Lights) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to SET! [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.663Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Lights OFF<SET>" (rule-m6e33ja3:S) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.665Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Lights ON<SET>" (rule-m6e4ajh7:S) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.668Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Lights OFF<SET> (rule-m6e33ja3:S) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.669Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Lights ON<SET> (rule-m6e4ajh7:S) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.669Z <Engine:INFO> Lights ON<SET> all actions completed. [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.675Z <Rule:INFO> Lights OFF (rule-m6e33ja3 in Atrium Lights) evaluated; rule state transition from SET to RESET! [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.680Z <Engine:NOTICE> ReactionHistory: no entry for [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.683Z <Engine:NOTICE> [Engine]Engine#1 entry 256 reaction rule-m6e33ja3:S-1q2f1j0p: [Error] terminated [parent terminating] [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.683Z <Engine:CRIT> Error: terminated [parent terminating] Error: terminated at Engine._process_reaction_queue (C:\Users\Jalan\msr\reactor\server\lib\Engine.js:1644:47) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.699Z <Engine:NOTICE> [Engine]Engine#1 entry 254 reaction rule-m6e33ja3:S: [Error] terminated [preempted by rule state change] [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.699Z <Engine:CRIT> Error: terminated [preempted by rule state change] Error: terminated at Engine._process_reaction_queue (C:\Users\Jalan\msr\reactor\server\lib\Engine.js:1644:47) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.700Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Lights OFF<RESET>" (rule-m6e33ja3:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.704Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Lights OFF<RESET> (rule-m6e33ja3:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:04:39.705Z <Engine:INFO> Lights OFF<RESET> all actions completed. [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:05:48.822Z <Rule:INFO> Lights ON (rule-m6e4ajh7 in Atrium Lights) evaluated; rule state transition from SET to RESET! [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:05:48.831Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Lights ON<RESET>" (rule-m6e4ajh7:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:05:48.847Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Lights ON<RESET> (rule-m6e4ajh7:R) [latest-25016]2025-01-26T22:05:48.847Z <Engine:INFO> Lights ON<RESET> all actions completed.

Hi @toggledbits

I found this very old post that talked about a way to limit device reading to avoid the throttled problem, because it's not a question of logic, it's that the device actually sends a lot of information, in my case the NUT ups installed in HE.

https://smarthome.community/topic/687/flapping-device?_=1737652139854

It mentions engine section of reactor.yaml by setting update_rate_limit, but I looked in the current MSR documentation and I can't find this information, so I don't know if it's still valid, its effect and parameters.

My situation is simple, when I have a UPS problem the NUT is sending dozens of reports per second and then I have the throttled problem. The same rule applies when the power is normal.

This is the rule, and the parameter that fails is the Tripp Lite UPS status.

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All error is the same scenario.

[latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.753Z <Rule:WARN> (13) NUT Disconected (rule-l4djr0p7 in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.756Z <Rule:WARN> (27) Falta de Energia (rule-l4h9ceod in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.769Z <Rule:WARN> (73) UPS Battery Low (rule-l4hj850o in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.772Z <Rule:WARN> (74) UPS Comm Fail (rule-l4kbs5cp in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttlin> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.776Z <Rule:WARN> (76) UPS Utility Back (rule-l4hjhs6m in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.780Z <Rule:WARN> UPS On Battery (rule-l4hjuka5 in Datacenter) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttling> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:32.781Z <Rule:WARN> UPS Info (rule-l4gheo63 in Datacenter) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttling... [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.757Z <Rule:WARN> (13) NUT Disconected (rule-l4djr0p7 in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.759Z <Rule:WARN> (27) Falta de Energia (rule-l4h9ceod in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.776Z <Rule:WARN> (73) UPS Battery Low (rule-l4hj850o in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttl> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.777Z <Rule:WARN> (74) UPS Comm Fail (rule-l4kbs5cp in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Throttlin> [latest-25016]2025-01-23T12:01:40.778Z <Rule:WARN> (76) UPS Utility Back (rule-l4hjhs6m in Warning) update rate 121/min exceeds limit (120/min)! Logic loop? Thrott>

Thanks.

Hello -

Long time. Hope everyone is good.

I have a rule that looks at a number of temperature sensors around the house. It simply sends a general alert if any of them fall below their threshold. (A basic “House is too cold” alert for when we’re away)

Generally, this has worked well. But I was wondering if there’s a way to make the message somewhat dynamic without creating separate rules for each sensor.

E.g. “House is too cold due to Sump Temperature below 45 degrees.”

I thought I remember reading about someone doing this in the past but couldn’t find it.

Thanks for any ideas!