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HA and AI
CatmanV2C
Having hours of (actually quite fun) interaction with AI (Chat GPT) making up dashboards and sensors for HA. It's OK (well it's better than I am!) but it makes soooo many mistakes. Gets there in the end though, if you've half a clue (which I do half the time) C
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How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
Multi-System Reactor
Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
S
I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
CrilleC
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
therealdbT
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
Multi-System Reactor
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Genuinely impressed with Zigbee and HA / Reactor
CatmanV2C
Just for the record, in case anyone is following, I'm really rather impressed. I have installed one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B6P22YJC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 That's connected (physically) to the VM running on my Synology, with a 2m USB extension. The same host also runs Openluup, Mosquito, HA Bridge. Yesterday I installed Zigbee2mqtt. That was a bit of a PITA but mostly because of ports and permissions. Once up and running, and the correct boxes ticked, immediately visible in Home Assistant via the MQTT integration, and thence into Reactor I've only got two devices. I bought the cheapest sensor I could find, which is a door sensor. Dead easy to add to ZIgbee2mqtt and again, immediately visible in HA. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FPQLWRW1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title The dongle is on the top floor of the house, and I wanted the sensor on the back door (just about as far apart as it's possible to get short of going into the garage) When I moved the sensor downstairs it dropped out pretty instantly (which wasn't a huge surprise) so quick bit of research found out that smart plugs will act as routers so... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FDQDPGBB?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title Took me about 30 seconds to connect. Updated the name. Instantly visible in Reactor with the new name pushed over from Zigbee2mqtt. And lo, the door sensor now has a signal of 140 and works as far as I can tell perfectly and instantly (unlike my z-wave one). A few more of those will be purchased and used to replace the Tuya wifi cloud devices and the (continually failing) Z-wave plugs (yeah, they were TKB so....) Commended to the house. Thanks for everyone that got me on the right lines. C
Zigbee
Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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[HowTo] Using HABridge with Reactor
therealdbT
If you’re like me and still running HABridge to control your devices locally via Alexa, you might need to tweak your endpoints to call Reactor via HTTP. Here’s the best way to do it, IMO: Insert the Reactor Canonical ID (e.g., zwavejs>71-1) into the MapID field, but make sure it’s URL-encoded like this: zwavejs%3E71-1. Then, configure these endpoints as needed: On: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/power_switch.on Off: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/power_switch.off Dim: For lights: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/dimming.set?level=${intensity.decimal_percent} For roller shutters: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/position.set?value=${intensity.decimal_percent} Color: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/rgb_color.set_rgb?red=${color.r}&green=${color.g}&blue=${color.b} Just replace [ReactorIP] with your actual IP address. By using these placeholders, you can standardize your endpoints across all devices, making maintenance easier. This setup works with any device mapped under MSR, regardless of the controller (ZWaveJS, Vera, HASS, OpenSprinkler, virtual, MQTT, DynamicEntities, etc.). If you need different calls, just go to the entities, get the action and parameters, and adjust accordingly. Enjoy super fast access to your devices via Alexa! If you're migrating from Vera, the endpoints are (URL-encoded) in a file called device.db, in JSON format, under your config. You'd write a script to align the new endpoints to the new one, if you prefer to do it automatically. YMMV.
How-To
[Reactor] Bug when sending MQTT boolean payloads
therealdbT
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Difficulty defining repeating annual period
R
I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
Multi-System Reactor
Need help with sequence
T
Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
PablaP
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Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
CatmanV2C
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  • New HA instance
    K kellyjelly32

    Also I jumped Vera ship over a year ago and made the full transition to HA with MSR. My HA is running as HAos on an old NUC-like x86 which I got for 80€. It has full gigabit LAN, plenty of USB2.0 for the radios (UZB1 for Z-Wave and Conbee2 for Zigbee) on extensions away from the unit for better performance and of course a SSD with 120GB. Plenty of space and performance for HA with Addons, at least for me. My only headache is the MSR which is currently running as an addon in HA but it is not maintaned anymore from the original publisher... So I am now considering to get a second machine just to run MSR, either bare-metal or as a docker.
    Just my 2cents

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    Restarting reactor from reactor itself after changing any global expressions or making new global expressions is doing the trick for me currently.

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  • Expressions page showing old data
    K kellyjelly32

    Restarting reactor from reactor itself after changing any global expressions or making new global expressions is doing the trick for me currently.
    But I am using MSR via the unofficial addon by @mrw298 .

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    I am using the HA addon provided by @mrw298 , there are no configs other than the access token to be done. I will see what he thinks. My disk is plenty empty.

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    "Global Expressions" aka those things you can define and use for variables and calculations don't survive a reboot. After a reboot they are gone. The whole page with global variables is empty. I need to define them again. All rules which use one of these "global expressions" have a little yellow warning triangle and in the rule, be it conditions or actions or reactions, they are stated as "missing".
    As my system usually runs extremely stable I never noticed it as it never rebooted. Until this weekend when I physically had to shut it down and reboot a few times.
    I think it is a HA addon issue from @mrw298 not from MSR itself.

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    After doing some tinkering again this weekend on my HA real-life system, I noticed that the "global expressions" are not persistent when rebooting / restarting the MSR addon for HA. "global reactions" survive a reboot, as do all the rules (with their reactions / untested with local expressions). Ultimately it is probably an issue with the addon, not with MSR. Just want to see/hear from @toggledbits if there is something special about how the global expressions are saved vs the other stuff.

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  • Reactor Ex Machina
    K kellyjelly32

    My REM "Switch ON Ghost" is using the "toggle" action. This means it can also switch a light off if the one chosen randomly is (still) on. Change that to power_switch.on and it can only switch lights ON. This will at least prevent the "ON Ghost" from turning/toggling lights OFF. Then it all comes down the the times used to in the random() functions between the "ON Ghost" toggles/switches lights ON and the "OFF Ghosts" switching lights OFF.
    Probably the introduction of another variable like REM_active_lights which is increased every time the "ON Ghost" switches something ON and decreased when the "OFF Ghost xyz" turns it off, you can track how many lights are ON. Add a AND trigger in the "On Ghost" that states "REM_Active_lights" equal/smaller than "4" and you can make sure that no more than four lights will be on at any time.
    Probably you need to somehow force the MSR to re-evaluate the "Ghost ON" conditions to start another cycle, once enough lights are out again. Maybe another "Ghost" to keep track of the REM_Active_lights, when below 4 to count the REM_cycler_stimulus up to re-start the ON Ghost.

    I will see if I can get it to work...

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  • Reactor Ex Machina
    K kellyjelly32

    If anyone is interested, I will copy/paste my code here for my solution. It builds on the initial "Reactor Ex Machina" from 2021 but incorporates the changes made to MSR since then. I also modified it in such a way to have the OFF switching done individually for each light with definable delays. A bathroom light that way can go OFF after a random 1-5m while the kitchen stays on for longer for example. I made some other changes as well to suit my needs. It works for me, it might not for you.

    You need four "Global Expressions":

    • REM_lights
    #list of all DeusExMachina (now ReactorExMachina REM) lights to control
    #this is an array [ ]
    #every entity in ' ' (apostrophes) separated by , (comma) in new line
    #check entity list to get canonical ID to be used
    #comments start with hash and are ignored
    [
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight', #Test 
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight2', #test2
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight3', #Stephan
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight4', #Stephan
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight5', #Stephan
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight5', #Stephan
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight5' #Stephan
    ]
    
    • REM_dummy (leave empty)

    • REM_cycler_stimulus (leave empty)

    • REM_status (leave empty)

    If you want a light to be more frequently "ghosted" add it multiple times into the list. In my case light5. If you are on HA, you can add via the helper section some virtual toggles as I did to test your setup. Probably also possible on other platforms.

    My rules are like this:
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    Start & Stop rule (via set/reset reaction), the ghost switching on the lights and then for each light a ghost which switches off so I can manage the individual behavior per light.

    The Start&Stop rule:
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    The reset code bit, hard to read/copy from screenshot:

    ${{ each light in REM_lights: performAction( light, 'power_switch.off', {} ); 0 }}
    

    The ghost for switching ON a random element/light from the list:
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    Code:

    ${{ performAction( REM_lights[ floor( random() * len( REM_lights ) ) ], 'toggle.toggle', {} ) }}
    
    ${{ random()*600 + 600 }}
    
    ${{ REM_cycler_stimulus + 1 }}
    

    The light-specific OFF ghost:
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    ${{ random()*600 + 300 }}
    

    Some explanation for random function and the values used with it. It randomly generates number between 0 and 1 (example: 0.4739302) The delay time is in seconds. So the above example will create a delay of 300s minimum plus anything between 0 to 10m, effectively a random time of 5m-15m. See what works for you.

    This REM is working well for me and I am now finally ready to migrate it all to HA after many years on my trusty Vera Lite which is about to die of flash memory degradation.

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    @toggledbits
    I am running the addon in v0.0.7 (2023-02-20) [which is using Reactor build 23049 as per changelog] with:
    Home Assistant 2023.3.1
    Supervisor 2023.03.1
    Operating System 9.5
    Frontend 20230302.0 - latest

    I was more trying to reach @mrw298 as he is the creator of the addon. Judging from the changelog, I can´t update MSR that simple and need to wait for a new version of his addon to be pushed.

    The reminder pops up in any browser I tried so far, probably because it can´t really create a cookie. It even pops up in the HA mobile app. But I think the reactor front-end was never designed to run in such an environment. It is a minor cosmetic nuisance.

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    I am using the addon for HA, running excellent.
    Finally my dream came true, using the excellent reactor engine to automate all my devices, mix and match rules and technologies.
    Will offload now finally from my rusty Vera Lite to HA...

    Two things: I keep getting the "reminder" to enter the last four digits despite having done it multiple times.
    Can I safely update MSR from within the addon or do I need to wait for an update to the addon?

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  • Who are my Home Assistant + ZWave-JS users?
    K kellyjelly32

    Really appreciate the effort. My Vera with all the non-migrated Z-Wave is currently not reachable (holiday home). Can't migrate the devices to HA without being there. End of March I might be there to do it. Still need to find a way to get MSR to run. There is no easy way to run it on the same hardware my HA is running on (I run HA OS on bare metal). Or have I missed a MSR addon for HA?

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  • Who are my Home Assistant + ZWave-JS users?
    K kellyjelly32

    Running a HA with zwaveJS2 and an old Vera Lite with some not-yet-migrated devices. Reason for not migrating is that I love Reactor. On HA I was not able to get MSR to run yet.

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