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openLuup console disappeared - 500 - Internal Server Error
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Love openLuup - it just keeps working perfectly. I started looking at trying to add a gen4 Shelly device to the Shelly plugin via L_ShellyBridge.lua. The plugin is a little uncooked (no rudeness intended), so a bit of a rabbit hole for me. All of a sudden no console pages available in either Firefox or Chrome. AltUI works perfectly and all the log files indicate no errors. openLuup still running everything works as it should - just no console pages. I possibly screwed something up but any recently changes files show no problems. The original/ backup of L_ShellyBridge.lua was reinstated but still no console. Bit stumped on this one. Not sure how to debug. Any ideas?
Plugins
Logon screen timeout
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Noticing since 170 that the lock screen doesn't switch to the logon prompt but, rather, stays on the active UI until such time as you go to click something within it. Then it jumps to the login screen. Brave browser Brave 1.92.139 (Official Build) (arm64) Chromium: 150.0.7871.114
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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Upgrade advice - upgrade from aarch64 to ARM64 image
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I'm currently on version 26011. I understand that the aarch64 image is no longer supported. So, I therefore need to update to the ARM64 image. Can anyone possibly suggest how I update my docker compose.yaml file (see below). Ideally I'd like to keep my existing reactions etc. rather than start from scratch. # Multi-System Reactor template docker-compose.yml (version 22160) # # Change the lines indicated by "DO"... # services: reactor: container_name: reactor environment: # DO change the TZ: line to set your local time zone. # See valid TZ list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones TZ: GB # # DO NOT change this path. Your directory location is in "source" below. REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX: /var/reactor # DO change the image below to the one you are using (e.g. armv7l or aarch64 for RPi 4) image: toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64 restart: "always" expose: - 8111 ports: - 8111:8111 volumes: # DO change the /home/username/reactor below to the directory you created for # your local data; DO NOT change the /var/reactor part - /home/pi/docker/reactor:/var/reactor - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro tmpfs: /tmp
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Alexa for MSR, any interest?
MikeReadingtonM
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Ezlo Paid Subscription for Vera Cloud Services
toggledbitsT
It appears that Ezlo is going to new levels of paid subscription for cloud services supporting Vera hubs. I have to congratulate them. It will soon be 8 years since Ezlo acquired Vera, and despite their purported financial and "intellectual" capital, they have to date not produced a viable full replacement for Vera. Now they are going to charge extra for services for a platform that they stopped updating years ago. If you know anyone who hasn't yet fully moved on from Captain Ahab's White Whale Chase, please remind them that my Decouple project is still up on Github to decouple a Vera Plus/Secure/Edge from Vera/Ezlo's cloud services. Veras have been said to misbehave when they can't reach the mother ship. I have also written my first new Vera plugin in... six years? more?... the AlertPushover project will send Vera hub alerts to Pushover, so you can still get messages generated by your Vera hub without paying for Ezlo's cloud service. It's crude but functional (i.e. better than nothing/worth every penny paid). These two projects won't replace the functionality of their cloud service and app for those who need those things. But any that don't, this may help bridge the gap. Hopefully these stragglers who have waited so long and been disappointed so often will get the idea that it's time to move on.
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[RESOLVED] Telegram notification broke with latest update
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[RESOLVED] Phantom device, “INFO” appears
wmarcolinW
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[RESOLVED] Mode Status NULL
wmarcolinW
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[RESOLVED] HTTP query failing after version 26177
wmarcolinW
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Question about the find function
wmarcolinW
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[Answered] OK to remove old json files?
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Deprecation Announcement: 32-bit ARM *docker* images
toggledbitsT
If you are using the armv7l docker image, the OpenJS Foundation that publishes node is no longer producing 32-bit builds as of v24. That means the last supported LTS version of node for armv7l is v22, which will go End-of-Life in May 2027. Therefore, the Reactor armv7l image is now deprecated and will only be produced until node v22 goes EOL, and I will not publish armv7l images beyond that date. If you are running an RPi 3 or earlier with Reactor, you are on this image, and will need to upgrade hardware to a 64-bit model and use the arm64 image. If you need help getting it done, ask in this category.
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[Solved] build 26150 - engine not starting
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@toggledbits I pulled the image (well, Watchtower did) and within minutes the whole system went offline. The log looks like it ends with 26143. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mkahsmgf/26qq82mw-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lqyfljfi/22f8on0t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lsb61rw8/24oenqi2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/rule-lrh58he0:S-1c00gfib-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1c00dylr-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1nam9w5u-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miuh2qqi/22ls4lql-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1vj8sdfc-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1qanz01x-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/24lq19p6-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mk0o8iox/23oy468y-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miscg2h3/rule-miscg2h3:S-22gmbq1c-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrfjke/238p0old-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-m7ccsso5/re-m7ccsso5-1r0myjxa-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/19nl9wq2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3xk9t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3vv5m-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/re-ln7j2nqp-22mx9lzd-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/22mx87c8-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-licneppy/1mzwe7ht-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ml3194ih/25jqt1j4-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrg7kf/227hshak-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13ua1p95-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13uagam7-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x4cbv-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x2fyl-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-lscjrws1/238p5c22-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lbwr0jvq/1xkczf03-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <Structure:NOTICE> Structure Structure#1 stopped [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <app:NOTICE> Closing APIs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: disconnecting from "192.168.1.23#82" (1001 service closing) [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.548Z <httpapi:NOTICE> HTTP API closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: server closed [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <httpapi:INFO> HTTP server closed. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <app:NOTICE> Stopping timers... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Shutdown complete, process ID 1 [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Closing logs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <default:null> Closing log I can SSH to the VM. Alas, I do not have the previous image for 26143 as I'm a little too quick sometimes on housekeeping.
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Farewell, oh good and faithful servant!
CatmanV2C
Today marks another milestone in my Home Automation journey. After tripping the main breaker once, and shedding more blood than is normally recommended, the underfloor heating (which was the last Z-wave device on my system) has been replaced with a Zigbee one. Edited reactor.conf Disabled z-way-server Disabled Openluup Z-wave is no more.... C
General Discussion
http request action & digest auth
tunnusT
I’m using the HTTP Request action in MSR and need to authenticate against an endpoint that uses HTTP Digest authentication. Now that endpoint was changed to use SHA-256 in digest auth, so I would like to know if MSR supports it, or is it limited to MD5-based digest auth?
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Cloning actions in reactions does not work
tunnusT
With build 26140 (on Docker) I'm not able to clone any actions in reactions. Using Chrome if it has any relevance.
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Has ping command been removed?
tunnusT
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ReferenceError with Home Assistant data & build 26140
tunnusT
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  • New HA instance
    K kellyjelly32

    Also I jumped Vera ship over a year ago and made the full transition to HA with MSR. My HA is running as HAos on an old NUC-like x86 which I got for 80€. It has full gigabit LAN, plenty of USB2.0 for the radios (UZB1 for Z-Wave and Conbee2 for Zigbee) on extensions away from the unit for better performance and of course a SSD with 120GB. Plenty of space and performance for HA with Addons, at least for me. My only headache is the MSR which is currently running as an addon in HA but it is not maintaned anymore from the original publisher... So I am now considering to get a second machine just to run MSR, either bare-metal or as a docker.
    Just my 2cents

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    Restarting reactor from reactor itself after changing any global expressions or making new global expressions is doing the trick for me currently.

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  • Expressions page showing old data
    K kellyjelly32

    Restarting reactor from reactor itself after changing any global expressions or making new global expressions is doing the trick for me currently.
    But I am using MSR via the unofficial addon by @mrw298 .

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    I am using the HA addon provided by @mrw298 , there are no configs other than the access token to be done. I will see what he thinks. My disk is plenty empty.

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    "Global Expressions" aka those things you can define and use for variables and calculations don't survive a reboot. After a reboot they are gone. The whole page with global variables is empty. I need to define them again. All rules which use one of these "global expressions" have a little yellow warning triangle and in the rule, be it conditions or actions or reactions, they are stated as "missing".
    As my system usually runs extremely stable I never noticed it as it never rebooted. Until this weekend when I physically had to shut it down and reboot a few times.
    I think it is a HA addon issue from @mrw298 not from MSR itself.

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    After doing some tinkering again this weekend on my HA real-life system, I noticed that the "global expressions" are not persistent when rebooting / restarting the MSR addon for HA. "global reactions" survive a reboot, as do all the rules (with their reactions / untested with local expressions). Ultimately it is probably an issue with the addon, not with MSR. Just want to see/hear from @toggledbits if there is something special about how the global expressions are saved vs the other stuff.

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  • Reactor Ex Machina
    K kellyjelly32

    My REM "Switch ON Ghost" is using the "toggle" action. This means it can also switch a light off if the one chosen randomly is (still) on. Change that to power_switch.on and it can only switch lights ON. This will at least prevent the "ON Ghost" from turning/toggling lights OFF. Then it all comes down the the times used to in the random() functions between the "ON Ghost" toggles/switches lights ON and the "OFF Ghosts" switching lights OFF.
    Probably the introduction of another variable like REM_active_lights which is increased every time the "ON Ghost" switches something ON and decreased when the "OFF Ghost xyz" turns it off, you can track how many lights are ON. Add a AND trigger in the "On Ghost" that states "REM_Active_lights" equal/smaller than "4" and you can make sure that no more than four lights will be on at any time.
    Probably you need to somehow force the MSR to re-evaluate the "Ghost ON" conditions to start another cycle, once enough lights are out again. Maybe another "Ghost" to keep track of the REM_Active_lights, when below 4 to count the REM_cycler_stimulus up to re-start the ON Ghost.

    I will see if I can get it to work...

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  • Reactor Ex Machina
    K kellyjelly32

    If anyone is interested, I will copy/paste my code here for my solution. It builds on the initial "Reactor Ex Machina" from 2021 but incorporates the changes made to MSR since then. I also modified it in such a way to have the OFF switching done individually for each light with definable delays. A bathroom light that way can go OFF after a random 1-5m while the kitchen stays on for longer for example. I made some other changes as well to suit my needs. It works for me, it might not for you.

    You need four "Global Expressions":

    • REM_lights
    #list of all DeusExMachina (now ReactorExMachina REM) lights to control
    #this is an array [ ]
    #every entity in ' ' (apostrophes) separated by , (comma) in new line
    #check entity list to get canonical ID to be used
    #comments start with hash and are ignored
    [
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight', #Test 
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight2', #test2
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight3', #Stephan
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight4', #Stephan
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight5', #Stephan
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight5', #Stephan
    'hass>input_boolean_testlight5' #Stephan
    ]
    
    • REM_dummy (leave empty)

    • REM_cycler_stimulus (leave empty)

    • REM_status (leave empty)

    If you want a light to be more frequently "ghosted" add it multiple times into the list. In my case light5. If you are on HA, you can add via the helper section some virtual toggles as I did to test your setup. Probably also possible on other platforms.

    My rules are like this:
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    Start & Stop rule (via set/reset reaction), the ghost switching on the lights and then for each light a ghost which switches off so I can manage the individual behavior per light.

    The Start&Stop rule:
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    The reset code bit, hard to read/copy from screenshot:

    ${{ each light in REM_lights: performAction( light, 'power_switch.off', {} ); 0 }}
    

    The ghost for switching ON a random element/light from the list:
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    Code:

    ${{ performAction( REM_lights[ floor( random() * len( REM_lights ) ) ], 'toggle.toggle', {} ) }}
    
    ${{ random()*600 + 600 }}
    
    ${{ REM_cycler_stimulus + 1 }}
    

    The light-specific OFF ghost:
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    ${{ random()*600 + 300 }}
    

    Some explanation for random function and the values used with it. It randomly generates number between 0 and 1 (example: 0.4739302) The delay time is in seconds. So the above example will create a delay of 300s minimum plus anything between 0 to 10m, effectively a random time of 5m-15m. See what works for you.

    This REM is working well for me and I am now finally ready to migrate it all to HA after many years on my trusty Vera Lite which is about to die of flash memory degradation.

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    @toggledbits
    I am running the addon in v0.0.7 (2023-02-20) [which is using Reactor build 23049 as per changelog] with:
    Home Assistant 2023.3.1
    Supervisor 2023.03.1
    Operating System 9.5
    Frontend 20230302.0 - latest

    I was more trying to reach @mrw298 as he is the creator of the addon. Judging from the changelog, I can´t update MSR that simple and need to wait for a new version of his addon to be pushed.

    The reminder pops up in any browser I tried so far, probably because it can´t really create a cookie. It even pops up in the HA mobile app. But I think the reactor front-end was never designed to run in such an environment. It is a minor cosmetic nuisance.

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  • Home Assistant add-on
    K kellyjelly32

    I am using the addon for HA, running excellent.
    Finally my dream came true, using the excellent reactor engine to automate all my devices, mix and match rules and technologies.
    Will offload now finally from my rusty Vera Lite to HA...

    Two things: I keep getting the "reminder" to enter the last four digits despite having done it multiple times.
    Can I safely update MSR from within the addon or do I need to wait for an update to the addon?

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  • Who are my Home Assistant + ZWave-JS users?
    K kellyjelly32

    Really appreciate the effort. My Vera with all the non-migrated Z-Wave is currently not reachable (holiday home). Can't migrate the devices to HA without being there. End of March I might be there to do it. Still need to find a way to get MSR to run. There is no easy way to run it on the same hardware my HA is running on (I run HA OS on bare metal). Or have I missed a MSR addon for HA?

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  • Who are my Home Assistant + ZWave-JS users?
    K kellyjelly32

    Running a HA with zwaveJS2 and an old Vera Lite with some not-yet-migrated devices. Reason for not migrating is that I love Reactor. On HA I was not able to get MSR to run yet.

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