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Can you run MSR on Home Assistant OS ?
cw-kidC
Looking at using Home Assistant for the first time, either on a Home Assistant Green, their own hardware or buying a cheap second hand mini PC. Sounds like Home Assistant OS is linux based using Docker for HA etc. Would I also be able to install things like MSR as well on their OS ? On the same box? Thanks.
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RPi Alternative: Orange Pi 4 LTS (3GB RAM/16GB eMMC)
toggledbitsT
The last of four boards I'm trying in this batch is the Orange Pi 4 LTS. I purchased a 3GB RAM + 16GB eMMC model from Amazon for $83, making it the most costly of the four boards tried, but still well under my US$100 limit. This board is powered by a Rockchip RK3399-T processor, ARM-compatible with dual Cortex-A72 cores and quad Cortex-A53 cores at 1.6Ghz (1.8Ghz for the 4GB model); compare this to the RPi 3B+ with four Cortex-A53 and the RPi 4B with four Cortex-A72, this board is a hybrid that I would expect to stand in the performance middle between the two RPi models. It's available in 3GB and 4GB DDR4 RAM configurations, with and without 16GB eMMC storage. It has a MicroSDHC slot, gigabit Ethernet, WiFi and BT, two USB 2.0 type A ports, one USB 3.0 type C port, a mini PCIe ribbon-cable connector (requires add-on board for standard connector), two each RPi-compatible camera and LCD ports, HDMI type A, and can be powered (5VDC/3A) via USB-C or DC type C (3.8mm OD/1.1mm ID) jack (center-positive), an odd and perhaps unwelcome departure from the more common type A (5.5mm/2.1mm). A serial port for console/debug can be connected by using a (not included) USB-TTL adapter (3.3V) via pin headers like the Orange Pi Zero 2. The included dual-band antenna connects via U.FL connector to the board, so it's easy substituting for another if you prefer. The manufacturer recommends use of a heat sink (which was included in the box). A metal cooling case is also offered by the manufacturer (a bundle with the metal case and a power supply is sold on Amazon for $90 as of this writing). The Orange Pi 4 LTS is somewhat longer than the RPi 4B, and although the boards are the same width, the mounting hole placement is different both in length and (oddly) width. Between this and the differences in connector locations, neither board is a drop-in replacecment for the other and their respective cases are not interchangeable. The 26-pin header is a subset of the RPi 4B's 40-pin header, so some HATs for the RPi may work (although the mounting hole differences will make securing them "interesting"), and some HATs will surely not. Models with eMMC storage have an OS installed and boot immediately with SSH daemon running and ready for login. Mine was running Debian Bullseye, which would probably be fine for most users. It had clearly been on there a while, because it needed a lot of updates, but it's a current distro, so you're running out of the box with something that will last. A different OS can be installed by downloading an image (once again I chose Ubuntu Jammy) and writing it to a MicroSD card, then booting the system from the SD card. You can either leave the system in that state (running the OS from the SD card), or copy the OS from the SD card to the eMMC. The latter is done by a script; documentation for the process is best described in the downloadable PDF User Manual. This took about 10 minutes and went smoothly, and I was able to boot the system without the SD card after the process completed. I have lingering questions around the value of the eMMC storage. It's definitely faster than using MicroSD or USB-based storage (I got 311MB/s average on a 4GB write, compared to MicroSD performance around 15MB/s), but it would take a long-term test of this product to determine if the on-board eMMC option has the stamina to take the write counts typical of Linux systems, and if its wear-leveling and error correction are sufficient to assure a long, error-free life. Given the high premium apparently being paid for including eMMC on the board, it should be fast and durable, but only time and experience (perhaps painful) would tell the latter. A careful configuration with other Flash-friendly filesystems could be used to reduce wear, but this is an advanced configuration/cookbook topic and beyond the scope of this writing. This question is also not unique to eMMC — MicroSD cards are also known to fail with high write cycles, so the use of a "high endurance" product is recommended for any and all systems using MicroSD as primary storage. The board has Mini PCIe capability, and that may be a storage alternative, but read on... Also bear in mind that the eMMC storage is fixed-size forever; it cannot be expanded, and 16GB can run out pretty quickly these days. Users of MicroSD cards for primary storage can upgrade to bigger cards, but when users of eMMC primary storage outgrow it, the only choice is to add a MicroSD card or other "external" storage to the system, move part of the filesystem to it, and then manage both storage devices and deal with the limitations and risks of both. As I mentioned with the Orange Pi Zero 2, if you are going to use this board as a home automation controller/gateway or similar role, it should (IMO) have a battery-backed real time clock (RTC), and Orange Pi offers an add-on module that connects directly to the 26-pin header on the board. An available expansion board provides a standard Mini PCIe interface and SIM card slot (hmm...), but it connects to the main board via a short ribbon cable, and its mounting holes have no complement on the main board, so it seems like it would be a fragile dangly thing that's a nuisance to deal with. I want to like this board more, and it's very capable, but I'm concerned about value. The limited options for eMMC (16GB or none), the question mark of the eMMC's longevity vs cost, the strange DC power connector choice, the lack of 40-pin GPIO on a full-size (plus) board, the inconsistent hole placement, and the fragile Mini PCIe arrangement, are all "cons" that devalue this board in my view. The price point is clearly driven by the additional capabilities of the board (camera support, ports, six core CPU, extra RAM, on-board eMMC storage), but unfortunately, a great many of these features may not be useful for home automation, and therefore potentially a waste of money. In terms of overall value, I still believe the Libre "Le Potato" seems a better choice to me, and the Orange Pi Zero 2 (very) a close second, but I'll admit I'm focused on a particular application and your needs may be better suited to what this board offers than mine. Passmark Results: OrangePi 4 LTS Cortex-A72 (aarch64) 6 cores @ 1200 MHz | 2.9 GiB RAM Number of Processes: 6 | Test Iterations: 1 | Test Duration: Medium -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU Mark: 583 Integer Math 12037 Million Operations/s Floating Point Math 2542 Million Operations/s Prime Numbers 4.5 Million Primes/s Sorting 3141 Thousand Strings/s Encryption 153 MB/s Compression 4049 KB/s CPU Single Threaded 154 Million Operations/s Physics 80.5 Frames/s Extended Instructions (NEON) 244 Million Matrices/s Memory Mark: 498 Database Operations 551 Thousand Operations/s Memory Read Cached 2524 MB/s Memory Read Uncached 2602 MB/s Memory Write 3182 MB/s Available RAM 1947 Megabytes Memory Latency 119 Nanoseconds Memory Threaded 6243 MB/s --------------- eMMC storage write 311MB/s average for 4GB; MicroSD (Samsung 32GB class 10) storage write 15MB/s.
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RPi Alternative: Orange Pi Zero 2 (1GB)
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RPi Alternative: Libre Computer AML-S905X-CC "Le Potato" (2GB RAM)
toggledbitsT
With Raspberry Pi boards continuing to be relatively scarce, I've been trying a few alternatives to see what may be usable and good. I had previously written about the Jetson Nano 2GB, which is great, but a little pricey, so I'm trying to find sub-US$100 boards that will run Reactor. I've got four that I'm trying now, but one in particular goes right to work in the most predictable way and seems worth a mention immediately: the Libre Computer Board AML-S905X-CC 2GB (known as "Le Potato"). The form factor is very similar to that of the Raspberry Pi 3 B+, and has comparable CPU (ARM Cortex-A53, quad 64-bit cores at 1.5+GHz -- slightly higher clock speed). It's US$35 on Amazon and LoverPi in the (recommended) 2GB configuration, and easy to get. Startup is like RPi: download one of the available OS images (Ubuntu, Raspbian, Debian, ARMbian, etc.) from their site and write the image to a MicroSD card, insert into slot, power up, and off you go. I tried the Ubuntu 22.04 image first and it comes right up. No problem getting nodejs 18.12.1 installed and running (with Reactor). No WiFi on board, but I don't see that as a minus for use as a controller/hub (which should be hard-wired, IMO). The 40-pin GPIO connector is compatible with typical RPi HATs (PoE, breakouts, etc.). There is an available eMMC (solid state storage) module to use instead of MicroSD, which I would recommend for long-term use. It runs US$25 for 32GB (64GB and 128GB available). The module is scarcely larger than the chip it carries, and has the smallest board-to-board connector I've ever seen. Next up: ESPRESSObin 2GB (spoiler: it's... technical...)
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HA and AI
CatmanV2C
Having hours of (actually quite fun) interaction with AI (Chat GPT) making up dashboards and sensors for HA. It's OK (well it's better than I am!) but it makes soooo many mistakes. Gets there in the end though, if you've half a clue (which I do half the time) C
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How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
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This trigger no longer working - complaining about the operator needing changing
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Self test
CatmanV2C
Having been messing around with some stuff I worked a way to self trigger some tests that I wanted to do on the HA <> MSR integration This got me wondering if there's an entity that changes state / is exposed when a configured controller goes off line? I can't see one but thought it might be hidden or something? Cheers C
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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
CrilleC
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
therealdbT
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Genuinely impressed with Zigbee and HA / Reactor
CatmanV2C
Just for the record, in case anyone is following, I'm really rather impressed. I have installed one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B6P22YJC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 That's connected (physically) to the VM running on my Synology, with a 2m USB extension. The same host also runs Openluup, Mosquito, HA Bridge. Yesterday I installed Zigbee2mqtt. That was a bit of a PITA but mostly because of ports and permissions. Once up and running, and the correct boxes ticked, immediately visible in Home Assistant via the MQTT integration, and thence into Reactor I've only got two devices. I bought the cheapest sensor I could find, which is a door sensor. Dead easy to add to ZIgbee2mqtt and again, immediately visible in HA. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FPQLWRW1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title The dongle is on the top floor of the house, and I wanted the sensor on the back door (just about as far apart as it's possible to get short of going into the garage) When I moved the sensor downstairs it dropped out pretty instantly (which wasn't a huge surprise) so quick bit of research found out that smart plugs will act as routers so... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FDQDPGBB?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title Took me about 30 seconds to connect. Updated the name. Instantly visible in Reactor with the new name pushed over from Zigbee2mqtt. And lo, the door sensor now has a signal of 140 and works as far as I can tell perfectly and instantly (unlike my z-wave one). A few more of those will be purchased and used to replace the Tuya wifi cloud devices and the (continually failing) Z-wave plugs (yeah, they were TKB so....) Commended to the house. Thanks for everyone that got me on the right lines. C
Zigbee
Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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[HowTo] Using HABridge with Reactor
therealdbT
If you’re like me and still running HABridge to control your devices locally via Alexa, you might need to tweak your endpoints to call Reactor via HTTP. Here’s the best way to do it, IMO: Insert the Reactor Canonical ID (e.g., zwavejs>71-1) into the MapID field, but make sure it’s URL-encoded like this: zwavejs%3E71-1. Then, configure these endpoints as needed: On: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/power_switch.on Off: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/power_switch.off Dim: For lights: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/dimming.set?level=${intensity.decimal_percent} For roller shutters: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/position.set?value=${intensity.decimal_percent} Color: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/rgb_color.set_rgb?red=${color.r}&green=${color.g}&blue=${color.b} Just replace [ReactorIP] with your actual IP address. By using these placeholders, you can standardize your endpoints across all devices, making maintenance easier. This setup works with any device mapped under MSR, regardless of the controller (ZWaveJS, Vera, HASS, OpenSprinkler, virtual, MQTT, DynamicEntities, etc.). If you need different calls, just go to the entities, get the action and parameters, and adjust accordingly. Enjoy super fast access to your devices via Alexa! If you're migrating from Vera, the endpoints are (URL-encoded) in a file called device.db, in JSON format, under your config. You'd write a script to align the new endpoints to the new one, if you prefer to do it automatically. YMMV.
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    Using the USB ports on a Synology looks to be a pain for anything else than storage. There are hacks around, but nothing officially supported I could find. So that is why I opted for Hubitat as that seems to be pretty stable for my needs (nothing cutting edge on that front). O and I did add more memory in my NAS too, not original Synology as that is insainly expensive.

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    I put what I could on containers on my NAS, and use Hubitat for Zwave. For the latter you can buy a full backup/restore subscription. The containers I could spin up on a PI (4 or better with at least 4GB memory and SSD) rather quickly if needed. I did not use containers prior, but the simplicity and quickness to get those running with existing data has made using them over bare metal a no-brainer.

    As my NAS is fairly new and the data should not go lost in case it does go belly up. I am not too concerned about the data. Just the ability to run the containers using the same IP addresses.

    But your right. Having it go down for even a day or two (ordering a new NAS and restoring everything) would have a serious impact on the WAF for months after. So you now got me thinking too....

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    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.299Z <Structure:INFO> Starting controller HassController#hass
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    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.299Z <Structure:INFO> Starting controller DynamicGroupController#groups
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.301Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller DynamicGroupController#groups is now online.
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.301Z <Structure:INFO> Starting controller SystemController#reactor_system
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.302Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller SystemController#reactor_system is now online.
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.367Z <Engine:null> [Engine]Engine#1 config [Object]{ "enabled": true, "wait_all_controllers": true, "startup_wait": 60000, "monitored_entities": [ "vera>device_XXX" ] }
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.371Z <VeraController:INFO> VeraController#openLuup performing one-time initialization for VeraController class
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.378Z <Controller:INFO> VeraController#openLuup loaded vera capabilities ver 22253 rev 1 format 1 
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.398Z <Controller:INFO> VeraController#openLuup loaded implementation data ver 25014 rev 1 format 1 
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.398Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 performing one-time initialization for HubitatController class
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.399Z <Controller:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 loaded hubitat capabilities ver 24279 rev 1 format 1 
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.407Z <Controller:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 loaded implementation data ver 24345 rev 1 format 1 
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.407Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass performing one-time initialization for HassController class
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.408Z <Controller:INFO> HassController#hass loaded hass capabilities ver 25004 rev 1 format 1 
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.414Z <Controller:INFO> HassController#hass loaded implementation data ver 25004 rev 2 format 1 
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.417Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass device mapping data loaded; checking...
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.421Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass connecting to ws://192.168.178.201:8123/api/websocket
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.424Z <app:NOTICE> Waiting for controllers to start up...
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.429Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 performing initial connection and inventory
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.430Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 performing initial connection and inventory
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.444Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass connected, starting protocol
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.445Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass successful authentication with ws://192.168.178.201:8123; fetching initial data...
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.490Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass Hass reports version "2025.2.0" location Home timezone Europe/Amsterdam state RUNNING safe_mode false
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.493Z <HassController:ERR> HassController#hass reported Hass version "2025.2.0" is not supported!
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.519Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for conversation.home_assistant
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.528Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for sun.sun
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.535Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for tts.google_en_com
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.536Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for event.hue_switch_1_button_4
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.536Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for event.hue_switch_1_button_3
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.537Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for event.hue_switch_1_button_1
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.537Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for event.hue_switch_1_button_2
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.561Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for update.hacs_update
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.562Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for update.entso_e_transparency_platform_update
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.563Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for update.hubitat_update
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.564Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for update.power_flow_card_update
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.564Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for update.apexcharts_card_update
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.574Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for update.netdrive_dsm_update
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.605Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for event.sun_screens
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.615Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for remote.woonkamer
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.642Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for update.fritz_box_5590_fiber_fritz_os
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.647Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for event.garage_door_motor_button_1
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.647Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for event.garage_door_motor_button_2
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.686Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for hubitat.hub
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.688Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass no signature match for image.fritz_box_5590_fiber_rbguestaccess
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.764Z <Controller:INFO> HassController#hass 0 dead entities older than 86400000s purged
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.770Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller HassController#hass is now online.
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.779Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 Maker API responded with 21 devices
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.814Z <HubitatController:WARN> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 native capability URL no definition data; skipped
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.827Z <Controller:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 0 dead entities older than 86400000s purged
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.827Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 A connection health probe device was not configured. A randomly-selected device will be used.
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.827Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> Please refer to the HubitatController configuration docs for more information.
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.829Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 connecting to hub's eventsocket WebSocket API at ws://192.168.178.107/eventsocket
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.833Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 Maker API responded with 66 devices
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.881Z <HubitatController:WARN> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 native capability URL no definition data; skipped
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.899Z <Controller:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 0 dead entities older than 86400000s purged
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.899Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 A connection health probe device was not configured. A randomly-selected device will be used.
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.899Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> Please refer to the HubitatController configuration docs for more information.
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.900Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 connecting to hub's eventsocket WebSocket API at ws://192.168.178.104/eventsocket
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.993Z <Controller:INFO> VeraController#openLuup 0 dead entities older than 86400000s purged
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:02.994Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller VeraController#openLuup is now online.
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:03.015Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 successful connection to ws://192.168.178.104/eventsocket
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:03.016Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 successful connection to ws://192.168.178.107/eventsocket
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:03.078Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitat-C8 current mode is Home (65)
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:03.117Z <VeraController:NOTICE> VeraController#openLuup reload detected (status query with LoadTime 1733911518 in response; expected "1469238424")
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:03.164Z <HubitatController:NOTICE> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 current mode is Home (6)
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:03.168Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller HubitatController#hubitat-C8 is now online.
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:03.185Z <HubitatController:WARN> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 'Allow control of HSM' appears to be disabled in your Maker API configuration
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:03.186Z <Controller:NOTICE> Controller HubitatController#hubitat-C7 is now online.
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:03.186Z <DynamicGroupController:INFO> All controllers ready, setting up dynamic groups
    [latest-25016]2025-02-07T09:08:03.199Z <app:NOTICE> All 6 controllers successfully started.
    

    Cheers Rene

    Multi-System Reactor

  • 'Random' lights turning on
    M mrFarmer

    Have you asked the wife? Mine likes to randomly turn lights on (never off!) just to get me confused 😁
    Cheers Rene

    General Discussion

  • 'Random' lights turning on
    M mrFarmer

    You had to ask 🙂
    Have a look here https://www.amazonforum.com/s/question/0D56Q0000BafbkqSQA/alexa-created-routine-on-its-own
    Cheers Rene

    General Discussion

  • 'Random' lights turning on
    M mrFarmer

    In Alexa there is an option that it 'learns' from 'your behavior'. When I turned that off and removed the rules it created for that 'feature' this spook behavior stopped. I would look into the rules on your Alexa, you may find some you do not remember creating.
    Cheers Rene

    General Discussion

  • MSR UI on a mobile browser
    M mrFarmer

    On an Android phone with either Chrome or Firefox I cannot really use MSR. Toggling the hamburger menu shows most pages except status. That rarely shows a widget especially in landscape mode. I would not think about making or changing rules on a small screen, but being able to look at the status would be nice.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Logitech logic
    M mrFarmer

    Is the V6 box in direct sight of the Hub or do you use a IR extender just for that? Did that unplug or die? Else, I have no idea. I just hope my harmony keeps working for many many years (knock wood)
    Cheers Rene

    General Discussion

  • Scene Controllers -- What are you using?
    M mrFarmer

    I like the Heat-it z-push wall controller. You can use it with one, two or three paddles mounted that can be used as switch and scene controller. The design fits with my normal wall power outlets and operate like a normal switch to anyone who does not know (or care like the misses). They are 800 devices and after a year the battery still shows at 100%
    Cheers Rene

    Hardware

  • openweather plugin ?
    M mrFarmer

    Hi Ak,
    Not sure what the issue is for me then. I first had it running on Pi3 with Debian, now on Pi4 with Ubuntu, same issue of not getting the token. I did copy the user_data.json, so maybe something in that.
    As a test I tried on my openLuup clean test install running in a container and that is working. So must be something at my end.
    Thanks again anyway, I have a new workaround :-).

    Plugins

  • openweather plugin ?
    M mrFarmer

    I might update then. I do need ALTUI still because of some of my plugins. Slowly moving to HA, but not totally there yet.

    To update a plugin now, How would that work if not via the ALTUI publish function?

    Plugins

  • openweather plugin ?
    M mrFarmer

    Thanks Ak, the Google token refresh does not work unless you run AltUI on a Vera and I do not have those up and running anymore. We did find that before. The token refresh gets stuck in some loop and a luup reload is needed to stop that. It is too deep in ALTUI and some google scripts for me to figure out and @amg0 does not seem to be around any more.

    I am on openLuup 23.01.06. When not using MTTQ, Shelly, Zwave stick, any reason for an update to the latest?

    Cheers Rene

    Plugins

  • openweather plugin ?
    M mrFarmer

    Hi, I have updated the plugin code. You will have to install it manually as the MIOS App Market nor the ALTUI App Store are working. Get the file from github at https://github.com/reneboer/MultiStationWeather/blob/main/src/L_MsWeather.lua

    Note that you will need to get a One Call 3.0 API key. The old one will not work.

    Cheers Rene

    Plugins

  • MSR, Repeat While not evaluated?
    M mrFarmer

    Redesign in progress. Thanks again for this great multi platform tool.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • MSR, Repeat While not evaluated?
    M mrFarmer

    Thanks. So I'd probably better split the rule then. Not a problem, but then I have five per appliance. O well, who's counting 🙂

    Multi-System Reactor

  • MSR, Repeat While not evaluated?
    M mrFarmer

    Hi,
    Running the latest version 24212 on docker.
    I want to run some appliances when my solar panels deliver over 1200 watts to the net. In this example the dryer. So when the dryer is turned on, the rule starts (SET). There first is a 3 min delay in case the dryer is turned on manually, that is group "Check if auto start is needed". If the dryer is not running, the status is set to waiting, and the shown Repeat Until should wait as long the power delivered is higher than -1200 for at least 120 seconds and the status is still waiting. Higher as the value is negative. For some reason that repeat until "DR Wait for solar high or manual start" looks skipped. Nothing in the logs. What am I missing?

    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:38:49.895Z <Rule:INFO> rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start (rule-lzjtr8w7 in House Controls) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to SET!
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:38:49.900Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET>" (rule-lzjtr8w7:S)
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:38:49.910Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET> (rule-lzjtr8w7:S)
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:38:49.911Z <Engine:NOTICE> rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET> delaying until 1723034509911<8/7/2024, 2:41:49 PM>
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:41:49.912Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET> (rule-lzjtr8w7:S) from step 3
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:41:49.924Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET>/DR Check if auto start is needed (rule-lzjtr8w7:S-rule-lzjtr8w7-1j83mwf7)
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:41:49.954Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET>/DR Check if auto start is needed/DR Check auto start (rule-lzjtr8w7:S-rule-lzjtr8w7-1j83mwfc)
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:41:50.125Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 action x_hubitat_HealthCheck.ping([Object]{  }) on Switch#hubitat-C7>69 succeeded
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:41:50.125Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET>/DR Check if auto start is needed/DR Check auto start (rule-lzjtr8w7:S-rule-lzjtr8w7-1j83mwfc) from step 2
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:41:50.125Z <Engine:NOTICE> rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET>/DR Check if auto start is needed/WM Check auto start delaying until 1723034525125<8/7/2024, 2:42:05 PM>
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:42:05.125Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET>/DR Check if auto start is needed/DR Check auto start (rule-lzjtr8w7:S-rule-lzjtr8w7-1j83mwfc) from step 3
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:42:05.215Z <HubitatController:INFO> HubitatController#hubitat-C7 action power_switch.on([Object]{  }) on Switch#hubitat-C7>69 succeeded
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:42:05.216Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET>/DR Check if auto start is needed/WM Check auto start (rule-lzjtr8w7:S-rule-lzjtr8w7-1j83mwfc) from step 4
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:42:05.219Z <Engine:INFO> rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET>/DR Check if auto start is needed/DR Check auto start all actions completed.
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:42:05.234Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET>/DR Check if auto start is needed (rule-lzjtr8w7:S-rule-lzjtr8w7-1j83mwf7) from step 5
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:42:05.234Z <Engine:INFO> rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET>/DR Check if auto start is needed all actions completed.
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:42:05.249Z <Engine:INFO> Resuming reaction rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET> (rule-lzjtr8w7:S) from step 4
    [latest-24212]2024-08-07T12:42:05.249Z <Engine:INFO> rule-Dryer Automatic Cycle Start<SET> all actions completed.
    

    Reactor Automation.png (g_DryerStatus should have been "waiting" and not "running" the moment the log was captured, so that should not be the issue. Unless it takes some time for a variable to actually change?)

    Cheers Rene

    Multi-System Reactor

  • openweather plugin ?
    M mrFarmer

    Hi, it is on my to-do list to make the change. Might be this week, no promises.

    Plugins

  • Having an issue with calling a HA service from MSR
    M mrFarmer

    That did it. Thanks for your help.

    Multi-System Reactor
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