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Struggling to setup my first Tasmota device and MQTT

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  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

    Sorry, my bad, change the include section to look like this (I'll fix the example above as well):

            include: 
              - tasmota_generic_relay
              - tasmota_sensor_temperature_humidity
    

    Also, you can use yamllint.com to sanity-check your entire config file.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #8

    @toggledbits said in Struggling to setup my first Tasmota device and MQTT:

    include:
    - tasmota_generic_relay
    - tasmota_sensor_temperature_humidity

    Thanks, now MSR reads the reactor.yaml file as it shows me the Vera controllers etc. But I am seeing this alert now:

    "controller "Mosquitto" (undefined mqtt) could not be loaded at startup due to error. See the log."

    I looked in the reactor.log and all its rotations but could not see any mention of MQTT.

    I also checked the reactor.yaml file on that website and it says its valid.

    i then changed this "interface: MQTTController" to this "implementation: MQTTController" and restarted and now I can see the MQTT Controller again under Entities.

    I then waited like 10 minutes to see if any new "fan_controller" devices would appear ? And nothing does. Searching the logs again for "mqtt" there are no search matches. Also cannot see a mqtt-topics.log file in the logs folder.

    If I run this command on the MSR / MQTT Broker box.

    mosquitto_sub -v -t 'tele/fan_controller/#' -t 'stat/fan_controller/#'
    
    

    Eventually some data from the ESP / Tasmota comes in:

    tele/fan_controller/LWT Online
    tele/fan_controller/STATE {"Time":"2026-02-15T11:59:06","Uptime":"0T14:12:43","UptimeSec":51163,"Heap":120,"SleepMode":"Dynamic","Sleep":50,"LoadAvg":19,"MqttCount":3,"Berry":{"HeapUsed":4,"Objects":50},"POWER":"OFF","Wifi":{"AP":1,"SSId":"ASUS_86_2G","BSSId":"04:D9:F5:74:C5:E0","Channel":10,"Mode":"HT40","RSSI":98,"Signal":-51,"LinkCount":2,"Downtime":"0T00:00:04"},"Hostname":"fan-controller-7192","IPAddress":"192.168.0.49"}
    tele/fan_controller/SENSOR {"Time":"2026-02-15T11:59:06","AM2301":{"Temperature":15.6,"Humidity":62.1,"DewPoint":8.4},"TempUnit":"C"}
    
    

    I see data for the temp sensor and I assume "POWER":"OFF" is the Relay / Switch state, as it is currently off.

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    • CatmanV2C CatmanV2

      MQTT Explorer is good for troubleshooting to make sure your data is actually getting to the broker IME

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      #9

      @CatmanV2 said in Struggling to setup my first Tasmota device and MQTT:

      MQTT Explorer is good for troubleshooting

      Thanks I will check that out.

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        wrote on last edited by cw-kid
        #10

        Reading the help page it shows this example config. I don't know what this channel number does? I didn't see a setting for setting a channel number in the Tasmota web UI. However I see there is a "channel" I saw in the data stream in the terminal mine mentioned channel 10. So I tried adding that also into my config.

        EDIT: Current Control Channel: 10 appears to be the current 2.4GHZ WIFI channel of my router, its set to AUTO so that channel will change or "channel" in the reactor.yaml something different?

        config:
            source: "mqtt://127.0.0.1:1883/"
            entities:
              shelly1_stairway:
                name: "Stairway Light"
                topic: shelly1_43DFD2
                include: shelly_relay
                channel: 0
        
        - id: mqtt
          enabled: true
          implementation: MQTTController
          name: Mosquitto
          config:
            source: mqtt://127.0.0.1:1883
            log_topics: ['tele','stat','tasmota']  # only for testing, disable when not in use (makes big log file)
            entities:
              tasmota_fan_controller:
              name: "Tasmota Fan Controller"
              topic: fan_controller  # matches topic configured in Tasmota
              unit: 1  # relay number on the device
              include: 
                  - tasmota_generic_relay
                  - tasmota_sensor_temperature_humidity
              channel: 10
        

        Didn't help however adding Channel still no new entities appearing.

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        Just seen this also:

        "notably Tasmota, do not have MQTT retain on by default (a poor choice for IoT devices, IMO). On Tasmota devices, you can turn it on by using the PowerRetain on, SwitchRetain on, SensorRetain on and StateRetain on commands in the Tasmota console."

        I will run those commands now.

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          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          A.I. just been telling me how to control the Tasmota with HTTP commands can turn on / off the relay now via HTTP if need be. This commands shows everything about the Tasmota device.

          http://192.168.0.49/cm?cmnd=Status%200

          {"Status":{"Module":1,"DeviceName":"Tasmota","FriendlyName":["Tasmota"],"Topic":"fan_controller","ButtonTopic":"0","Power":"0","PowerLock":"0","PowerOnState":3,"LedState":1,"LedMask":"FFFF","SaveData":1,"SaveState":1,"SwitchTopic":"0","SwitchMode":[1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0],"ButtonRetain":0,"SwitchRetain":1,"SensorRetain":1,"PowerRetain":1,"InfoRetain":0,"StateRetain":1,"StatusRetain":0},"StatusPRM":{"Baudrate":115200,"SerialConfig":"8N1","GroupTopic":"tasmotas","OtaUrl":"http://ota.tasmota.com/tasmota32/release/tasmota32.bin","RestartReason":"Software reset CPU","Uptime":"0T15:23:32","StartupUTC":"2026-02-14T20:46:23","Sleep":50,"CfgHolder":4617,"BootCount":8,"BCResetTime":"2026-02-14T20:26:13","SaveCount":48},"StatusFWR":{"Version":"15.2.0(release-tasmota32)","BuildDateTime":"2025-12-12T10:58:29","Core":"3.3.4","SDK":"5.3.4.251205","CpuFrequency":160,"Hardware":"ESP32-D0WD-V3 v3.0","CR":"430/699"},"StatusLOG":{"SerialLog":2,"WebLog":2,"MqttLog":0,"FileLog":0,"SysLog":0,"LogHost":"","LogPort":514,"SSId":["ASUS_86_2G",""],"TelePeriod":60,"Resolution":"558180C0","SetOption":["000082AB","2805C80000000600003C5A0A192800000000","00000080","00006000","00004080","00000000"]},"StatusMEM":{"ProgramSize":2086,"Free":793,"Heap":112,"StackLowMark":3,"PsrMax":0,"PsrFree":0,"ProgramFlashSize":4096,"FlashSize":4096,"FlashChipId":"16405E","FlashFrequency":80,"FlashMode":"DIO","Features":["0809","9F9AD7DF","0015A001","B7F7BFCF","05DA9BC4","E0360DC7","480840D2","20200000","D4BC482D","810A80F1","00000814"],"Drivers":"1,2,!3,!4,!5,7,!8,9,10,11,12,!14,!16,!17,!20,!21,!24,26,!27,29,!34,!35,38,50,52,!59,!60,62,!63,!66,!67,!68,!73,!75,82,!86,!87,!88,!91,!121","Sensors":"1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,17,18,19,20,21,22,26,31,34,37,39,40,42,43,45,51,52,55,56,58,59,64,66,67,74,85,92,95,98,103,105,109,127","I2CDriver":"7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,17,18,20,24,29,31,36,41,42,44,46,48,58,62,65,69,76,77,82,89"},"StatusNET":{"Hostname":"fan-controller-7192","IPAddress":"192.168.0.49","Gateway":"192.168.0.1","Subnetmask":"255.255.255.0","DNSServer1":"192.168.0.1","DNSServer2":"0.0.0.0","Mac":"7C:87:CE:2D:3C:18","IP6Global":"","IP6Local":"fe80::7e87:ceff:fe2d:3c18%st1","Ethernet":{"Hostname":"","IPAddress":"0.0.0.0","Gateway":"0.0.0.0","Subnetmask":"0.0.0.0","DNSServer1":"192.168.0.1","DNSServer2":"0.0.0.0","Mac":"00:00:00:00:00:00","IP6Global":"","IP6Local":""},"Webserver":2,"HTTP_API":1,"WifiConfig":4,"WifiPower":16.0},"StatusMQT":{"MqttHost":"192.168.0.4","MqttPort":1883,"MqttClientMask":"DVES_%06X","MqttClient":"DVES_2D3C18","MqttUser":"DVES_USER","MqttCount":3,"MqttTLS":0,"MAX_PACKET_SIZE":1200,"KEEPALIVE":30,"SOCKET_TIMEOUT":4},"StatusTIM":{"UTC":"2026-02-15T12:09:55Z","Local":"2026-02-15T13:09:55","StartDST":"2026-03-29T02:00:00","EndDST":"2026-10-25T03:00:00","Timezone":"+01:00","Sunrise":"07:58","Sunset":"18:10"},"StatusSNS":{"Time":"2026-02-15T13:09:55","AM2301":{"Temperature":15.0,"Humidity":62.2,"DewPoint":7.8},"TempUnit":"C"},"StatusSTS":{"Time":"2026-02-15T13:09:55","Uptime":"0T15:23:32","UptimeSec":55412,"Heap":112,"SleepMode":"Dynamic","Sleep":50,"LoadAvg":19,"MqttCount":3,"Berry":{"HeapUsed":4,"Objects":50},"POWER":"OFF","Wifi":{"AP":1,"SSId":"ASUS_86_2G","BSSId":"04:D9:F5:74:C5:E0","Channel":10,"Mode":"HT40","RSSI":100,"Signal":-48,"LinkCount":2,"Downtime":"0T00:00:04"},"Hostname":"fan-controller-7192","IPAddress":"192.168.0.49"}}
          
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            wrote on last edited by therealdb
            #12

            When asking AI, be sure to send the docs, the exact page. It will be more precise. All that said, here's my config

            controllers:
              - id: mqtt
                name: MQTT
                enabled: true
                implementation: MQTTController
                config:
                  # omitted...
                  entities:
                    # dehum
                    tasmota_dehumidifier:
                      name: "Dehum - sensors"
                      include: tasmota_sensor_temperature_humidity
                      topic: "tasmota-dehum"
                      source: SI7021
                    tasmota_dehumidifier_switch:
                      name: "Dehum - switch"
                      include: tasmota_generic_relay
                      topic: "tasmota-dehum"
                      unit: ""
            

            You could probably consolidate them, but I prefer to have the switch and the sensors separated: it's easier to start and to manage them.

            In you case, as per the post, topic: "tasmota-dehum" should be topic: "fan_controller", while sourceshould beAM2301`.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              @cw_kid in your post here the configuration you posted is incorrect -- the indenting is invalid, and that will prevent anything from working for that entity.

              Honestly, I can't at this stage really get a read on where you are. Between you jumping in with random AI changes and others commenting, your config is a moving target and I can't follow it. If you want my help, I will send you a link so you can upload your config and I can look at it and potentially fix it. Otherwise, I'll let you continue to learn on your own and seek help from others.

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                wrote on last edited by cw-kid
                #14

                Clearly the problem is I don't know how to structure or write the required yaml code. Following @therealdb example above, I changed mine to this:

                - id: mqtt
                  name: Mosquitto
                  enabled: true
                  implementation: MQTTController
                  config:
                    entities:
                      tasmota_fan_controller_temp:
                        name: "Stairs Cupboard Temp"
                        include: tasmota_sensor_temperature_humidity
                        topic: "fan_controller"
                        source: AM2301   
                

                I could then finally see an Entity for it in MSR for the Temp sensor. But with no data values as yet its null.

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                That obviously only imported the DHT22 (AM230) Temp sensor part.

                I then tried to add this to also include the 1 channel Relay part.

                - id: mqtt
                  name: Mosquitto
                  enabled: true
                  implementation: MQTTController
                  config:
                    entities:
                      tasmota_fan_controller_temp:
                        name: "Stairs Cupboard Temp"
                        include: tasmota_sensor_temperature_humidity
                        topic: "fan_controller"
                        source: AM2301
                      tasmota_fan_controller_relay:
                        name: "Stairs Cupboard Fan"
                        include: tasmota_generic_relay
                        topic: "fan_controller"
                        source:
                        unit: "1"  
                

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                The relay part seems to be working! I pressed the "Perform" button and was able to turn on and off the relay / fan OK.

                Seems I didn't need a "Source:" for the relay portion, I left that blank as I didn't know what to put in there anyway.

                So just not sure why I have no data from the Temp sensor currently.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #15

                  @cw-kid post some screenshots from mqtt explorer. It’s easier to follow, if you want my advice.

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #16

                    Its working now, a wire came off the ESP board for the DHT22 which is why it was null. I connected the wire again and now I see data in MSR.

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                    So this seems to be the now working yaml code:

                    - id: mqtt
                      name: Mosquitto
                      enabled: true
                      implementation: MQTTController
                      config:
                        entities:
                          tasmota_fan_controller_temp:
                            name: "Stairs Cupboard Temp"
                            include: tasmota_sensor_temperature_humidity
                            topic: "fan_controller"
                            source: AM2301
                          tasmota_fan_controller_relay:
                            name: "Stairs Cupboard Fan"
                            include: tasmota_generic_relay
                            topic: "fan_controller"
                            unit: "1" 
                    

                    And I did just install MQTT Explorer so a screen shot of that:

                    50059044-4d80-4d5f-b41c-b1c02cc9c01f-image.png

                    Thanks for everyone help, I just needed a nudge in the right direction with the MSR yaml code.

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                      #17

                      What else can I build! I have loads of spare ESP boards and sensors laying around the place, what I was using when trying out "EzloPi" but I am gonna switch to Tasmota / MSR and eventually Home Assistant when I retire my Vera Plus for Z-Wave duties.

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                        wrote on last edited by cw-kid
                        #18

                        Sweet everything appears to be working now, I created some virtual devices in Vera for the Temp and Humidity and some new MSR rules to push those values to them in Vera if they change.

                        Updated my Home Remote dashboard and I can see them on my phone now and also have a switch to turn the Fan on and off..

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                          What else can I build! I have loads of spare ESP boards and sensors laying around the place, what I was using when trying out "EzloPi" but I am gonna switch to Tasmota / MSR and eventually Home Assistant when I retire my Vera Plus for Z-Wave duties.

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                          wrote on last edited by therealdb
                          #19

                          @cw-kid I have them with lux, barometric, distance, and temp/humidity sensors, while also using a couple as Bluetooth bridges. in this regard, your fantasy is the real limit.

                          I've recently moved everything I could to ZWave, because it is better in terms of stability, but ATM there's no equivalent for fancy sensors, even if ZigBee has a denter offer.

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                            wrote on last edited by cw-kid
                            #20

                            Actually I do have one issue: power_switch.state=null

                            It seems MSR is not seeing what the state of the relay currently is? Which is causing me an issue now in a rule I am trying to create.

                            If I run this command in terminal on the MSR / MQTT broker box

                            :~mosquitto_sub -v -t 'tele/fan_controller/#' -t 'stat/fan_controller/#'
                            
                            

                            I see this:

                            tele/fan_controller/LWT Online
                            tele/fan_controller/STATE {"Time":"2026-02-16T18:38:48","Uptime":"0T03:13:09","UptimeSec":11589,"Heap":113,"SleepMode":"Dynamic","Sleep":50,"LoadAvg":19,"MqttCount":1,"Berry":{"HeapUsed":4,"Objects":50},"POWER":"OFF","Wifi":{"AP":1,"SSId":"ASUS_86_2G","BSSId":"04:D9:F5:74:C5:E0","Channel":3,"Mode":"HT40","RSSI":100,"Signal":-20,"LinkCount":1,"Downtime":"0T00:00:04"},"Hostname":"Stairs-Cupboard-Fan-ESP32","IPAddress":"192.168.0.49"}
                            tele/fan_controller/SENSOR {"Time":"2026-02-16T18:38:48","AM2301":{"Temperature":21.2,"Humidity":47.9,"DewPoint":9.7},"TempUnit":"C"}
                            stat/fan_controller/POWER OFF
                            
                            
                            stat/fan_controller/POWER OFF
                            

                            Which is correct, the fan is currently off.

                            So maybe the yaml code is not quite right if its not seeing the state of the relay.

                            I can turn on / off the relay however via MSR so it is talking to it somewhat.

                            This is what is in the reactor.yaml file currently.

                            - id: mqtt
                              name: Mosquitto
                              enabled: true
                              implementation: MQTTController
                              config:
                                entities:
                                  tasmota_fan_controller_temp:
                                    name: "Stairs Cupboard Temp"
                                    include: tasmota_sensor_temperature_humidity
                                    topic: "fan_controller"
                                    source: AM2301
                                  tasmota_fan_controller_relay:
                                    name: "Stairs Cupboard Fan"
                                    include: tasmota_generic_relay
                                    topic: "fan_controller"
                                    unit: "1"  
                            
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                              #21

                              Looking at the HTTP output for everything from the Tasmota, I see these snippets.

                              "StatusSTS" - seems to contain the state of the relay e.g. "POWER":"ON"

                              "StatusSTS":{"Time":"2026-02-16T18:58:25","Uptime":"0T03:32:46","UptimeSec":12766,"Heap":106,"SleepMode":"Dynamic","Sleep":50,"LoadAvg":19,"MqttCount":1,"Berry":{"HeapUsed":4,"Objects":50},"POWER":"ON","Wifi":{"AP":1,"SSId":"ASUS_86_2G","BSSId":"04:D9:F5:74:C5:E0","Channel":3,"Mode":"HT40","RSSI":100,"Signal":-19,"LinkCount":1,"Downtime":"0T00:00:04"},"Hostname":"Stairs-Cupboard-Fan-ESP32","IPAddress":"192.168.0.49"}}
                              

                              Where as "StatusSNS" contains the Temp data.

                              "StatusSNS":{"Time":"2026-02-16T18:58:25","AM2301":{"Temperature":19.8,"Humidity":50.3,"DewPoint":9.1},"TempUnit":"C"},
                              

                              So it seems MSR doesn't know where to find the relay status / state currently? and I am not sure how to fix it.

                              As a guess I tried adding source "POWER" to the relay section of the yaml but didn't seem to work and bring in the "ON" or "OFF" value.

                              tasmota_fan_controller_relay:
                                      name: "Stairs Cupboard Fan"
                                      include: tasmota_generic_relay
                                      topic: "fan_controller"
                                      source: "POWER"
                                      unit: "1"
                              

                              I was poking around the file system to find these Tasmota default templates. I see this folder but its empty.

                              /home/stuart/reactor/config/mqtt_templates
                              

                              I do see a file called tasmota.yaml however in this folder.

                              /home/stuart/reactor/ext/MQTTController/templates
                              

                              EDIT: I just fixed it by changing unit: "1" to unit: "" in the reactor.yaml.
                              It now say "false" for power state in the Entites area. I thought I had to put a 1 in unit because in Tasmota somewhere, I saw the Relay was number 1.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #22

                                Tasmota has this inconsistency where if there's only one relay configured, it does not include the relay number; if more than one, then it adds it. There's no way for the template to know how many relays are configured, so you found the correct fix.

                                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                  Tasmota has this inconsistency where if there's only one relay configured, it does not include the relay number; if more than one, then it adds it. There's no way for the template to know how many relays are configured, so you found the correct fix.

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                                  #23

                                  @toggledbits I plan to add a second relay or replace it with a dual relay board, so will see how that works out with these Unit numbers.

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