Possible mismatch between binary_sensor in HA and MSR

[CatmanV2]

Hi. First off this is an unsupported version of HS 2026.5.2 so happy to be told it's that.

Currently running latest-26130-3d2a489a on a Debian Buster bare metal VM.

I've been working on moving away from OpenLuup completely and up until now have been using some virtual switches t manage things like 'Is there anyone home'

I have a binary sensor in HA that provides the same thing
binary_sensor.someone_home which appears in MSR as
hass>binary_sensor_someone_home

HA shows on or off. MSR shows true or false

All fine. The odd thing happened after an update of HA and a restart.
From HA
13:07:04 it turned off
13:07:11 it turned on

However that does not appear to have been reflected in MSR which turned all the heating and so on off as it is supposed to do, and I got all my notifications as I should.

Here's a huge log section (sorry) as I wanted to show how MSR identifies that HA is up and running at 12:07:08 (Zulu) but triggers the 'There's no one here' at 12:07:17 some 6 seconds after HA updated to on.

Checking in the interface MSR said the status was 'False' while HA stated 'On'

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catman@openluup:~/reactor/storage/rules$ exit
logout

Connection to 192.168.70.249 closed.
catman@ChrisMBP2021 ~ % ./NotVera 
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** This session may be vulnerable to "store now, decrypt later" attacks.
** The server may need to be upgraded. See https://openssh.com/pq.html
Linux openluup 4.19.0-20-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.235-1 (2022-03-17) x86_64

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Last login: Mon May 18 12:13:38 2026 from 192.168.70.69
cdcatman@openluup:~$ cd reactor/lo
locales/ logs/    
catman@openluup:~$ cd reactor/logs/
catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ ls
console.log              hass_config.json           hass_services-2025-11-1.json  hass_services-2026-1-0.json  hass_services-2026-5-2.json  reactor.log    reactor.log.4             vera-user_data-initial.json
device_32                hass_device_registry.json  hass_services-2025-11-2.json  hass_services-2026-1-1.json  hass_services.json           reactor.log.1  reactor.log.5
e                        hass_entity_registry.json  hass_services-2025-11-3.json  hass_services-2026-4-2.json  hass_sources.json            reactor.log.2  unhandled.json
hass_area_registry.json  hass_integrations.json     hass_services-2025-7-2.json   hass_services-2026-4-4.json  hass_states.json             reactor.log.3  vera-status-initial.json
catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ less reactor.log
catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ tail reactor.log
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:20:08.296Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:03.391Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:08.729Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:08.734Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"]
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:03.501Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:08.614Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:08.624Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"]
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:03.590Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:08.503Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:08.506Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"]
catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ less reactor.log






















[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.946Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol+ (rule-ml9yjy9z in Living Room) starting rule state evaluation; because predicate-state-changed Predicate#rule-ml9yjy9z/trig
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.947Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol+ (rule-ml9yjy9z in Living Room) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to 'SET'
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.961Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol- (rule-ml9ylxw3 in Living Room) starting rule state evaluation; because predicate-state-changed Predicate#rule-ml9ylxw3/trig
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.962Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol- (rule-ml9ylxw3 in Living Room) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to 'SET'
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.995Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET>" (rule-l680lif2:R)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.996Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "House Mode is Home<RESET>" (rule-l5sdqazh:R)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.997Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET>" (rule-ml9y0xqo:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.997Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET>" (rule-ml9yjy9z:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.998Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET>" (rule-ml9ylxw3:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l680lif2:R)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode with {  } by reaction Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l680lif2:R) step 1
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode with {  }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.001Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass service homeassistant.turn_off target data is {  } (empty), assuming default entity target
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.001Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": {  }, "domain": "homeassistant", "service": "turn_off", "target": { "entity_id": "input_boolean.heating_mode" } }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.017Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction House Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l5sdqazh:R)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.018Z <Engine:INFO> House Mode is Home<RESET> all actions completed.
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.074Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET> (rule-ml9y0xqo:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.076Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET> (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) step 1
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.076Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=\" }" }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.077Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.090Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET> (rule-ml9yjy9z:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.091Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET> (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) step 1
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.092Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=\" }" }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.092Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.093Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET> (rule-ml9ylxw3:S)
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.093Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET> (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) step 1
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.094Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==\" }" }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.111Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } }
[latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.113Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-l5sdqazh reaction rule-l5sdqazh:R completed

This is hardly the end of the world as HA restarting is rare and I simply hit refresh on the entity in MSR but is this some kind of race condition or something that needs addressing?

Hoping I've given enough data to make it sensible

C

[toggledbits]

What's missing here that would be useful is the text of "Copy Attributes" prior to making any changes or taking any actions, showing the entity in the wrong state and the all of the attributes as last recorded. I'm also not clear on the timing of this... did it occur with Reactor running while you did an upgrade to HA (so HA version changed)? Also with log snippets, more context up front. There were lines before your first that identified what change to make the predicate re-evaluate. I'm serious when I say you need to give 20-30 lines ahead of what you think is relevant. It's better to post too much than too little.

There's also a hass_states.json file in the logs directory that could/should be preserved if possible. But it may be too late for that at this point.

[CatmanV2]

@toggledbits
Ahh sure (as ever, sorry) I don't have the Copy Attributes. I'm really sorry I did think I'd posted a load more lines, but clearly not. I bet you were exasperated

I did try again as something odd happens when I try to copy large blocks from terminal and now I'm told the post is too long.

I've uploaded the log and the hass states file here

MSR - Google Drive

Reactor was running, but this wasn't an upgrade of HA (that was Sunday) this was updates of various plugins (e.g. Alexa Media Player) which required a restart of HA

C

[toggledbits]

Go ahead and grab that attributes and post them now. That will at least tell me what type information the entity has, and how Reactor is processing it.

I'll look at the logs and see if there are any further clues left behind.

[CatmanV2]

Your wish...

binary_sensor.state=true
x_hass.area_id=null
x_hass.domain="binary_sensor"
x_hass.entity_id="binary_sensor.someone_home"
x_hass.floor_id=null
x_hass.services=["binary_sensor","template"]
x_hass.source="template"
x_hass.state="on"
x_hass_attr.friendly_name="Someone Home"
x_hass_attr.icon="mdi:home-account"

C

[toggledbits]

Is that copy-paste, or did you hit the "Copy Attributes" button?

[CatmanV2]

Copy attributes button

C

[toggledbits]

So I can see that HA reported the initial state of that sensor on connection as "off" (line 2110 of your hass_state.json.old file). The first mention of the device in your reactor.log is at line 4449 time 12:14:32.197Z, where it looks like you did a x_hass_template.reload from the UI. That completed with a successful response at 12:14:33.512Z. It stands to reason, however, that the action changed the state to "on", because your heating control rule set immediately after that.

On oddity that I haven't seen before is that HA apparently spit out several empty state change notices immediately after the template reload action. I've not seen that before, so it could be new HA behavior. I don't think that should matter, but I can't be sure until I really stare at the code, because usually blank state updates mean the entity has been deleted on the HA side, and that could have side-effects on the Reactor side (like unsubscribing from events).

Stay tuned. We're not done here.

[CatmanV2]

I did indeed do a reload. Never done it before, but was trying to work out how to get them back in sync as it were.

C

[toggledbits]

Well, it seems to do that, but it also seems to expose some odd initialization from the HA side. Digging in...

[toggledbits]

Can you post or upload your template configuration (from HA)?

[CatmanV2]

This was a Claude.AI creation ('cos obviously it's way beyond me!) The specific sensor is at the end but I've posted the whole thing in case...

#################################################
# OwnTracks MQTT Package (inregions-based)
# Phones: Catman & Rachel
#################################################

mqtt:
  sensor:



    ###############################################
    # CATMAN — iPhone
    ###############################################

    - name: "Catman In Regions"
      state_topic: "owntracks/catman/catmaniphone"
      icon: mdi:map-marker-multiple
      value_template: >
        {% if value_json._type == 'location'
              and value_json.inregions is defined %}
          {{ value_json.inregions | join(', ') }}
        {% else %}
          {{ states('sensor.catman_in_regions') }}
        {% endif %}

    - name: "Catman Primary Region"
      state_topic: "owntracks/catman/catmaniphone"
      icon: mdi:map-marker
      value_template: >
        {% if value_json._type == 'location'
              and value_json.inregions is defined
              and value_json.inregions | length > 0 %}
          {{ value_json.inregions[0] }}
        {% else %}
          away
        {% endif %}

    - name: "Catman Location Last Update"
      state_topic: "owntracks/catman/catmaniphone"
      device_class: timestamp
      value_template: >
        {% if value_json._type == 'location'
              and value_json.tst is defined %}
          {{ value_json.tst | int | timestamp_local }}
        {% else %}
          {{ states('sensor.catman_location_last_update') }}
        {% endif %}

    - name: "Catman At Home"
      state_topic: "owntracks/catman/catmaniphone"
      icon: mdi:home
      value_template: >
        {% if value_json._type == 'location'
              and value_json.inregions is defined %}
          {{ 'home' in value_json.inregions | map('lower') | list }}
        {% else %}
          {{ states('sensor.catman_at_home') }}
        {% endif %}

    ###############################################
    # RACHEL — iPhone
    ###############################################

    - name: "Rachel In Regions"
      state_topic: "owntracks/rachel/racheliphone"
      icon: mdi:map-marker-multiple
      value_template: >
        {% if value_json._type == 'location'
              and value_json.inregions is defined %}
          {{ value_json.inregions | join(', ') }}
        {% else %}
          {{ states('sensor.rachel_in_regions') }}
        {% endif %}

    - name: "Rachel Primary Region"
      state_topic: "owntracks/rachel/racheliphone"
      icon: mdi:map-marker
      value_template: >
        {% if value_json._type == 'location'
              and value_json.inregions is defined
              and value_json.inregions | length > 0 %}
          {{ value_json.inregions[0] }}
        {% else %}
          away
        {% endif %}

    - name: "Rachel Location Last Update"
      state_topic: "owntracks/rachel/racheliphone"
      device_class: timestamp
      value_template: >
        {% if value_json._type == 'location'
              and value_json.tst is defined %}
          {{ value_json.tst | int | timestamp_local }}
        {% else %}
          {{ states('sensor.rachel_location_last_update') }}
        {% endif %}

    - name: "Rachel At Home"
      state_topic: "owntracks/rachel/racheliphone"
      icon: mdi:home
      value_template: >
        {% if value_json._type == 'location'
              and value_json.inregions is defined %}
          {{ 'home' in value_json.inregions | map('lower') | list }}
        {% else %}
          {{ states('sensor.rachel_at_home') }}
        {% endif %}

#################################################
# TEMPLATE SENSORS (merged correctly)
#################################################

template:
  - sensor:
      - name: "Household Presence"
        icon: mdi:account-group
        state: >
          {% set catman = states('sensor.catman_primary_region') | lower %}
          {% set rachel = states('sensor.rachel_primary_region') | lower %}

          {% set cm =
            '🏠' if catman == 'home' else
            '🏢' if catman == 'office' else
            '🚗'
          %}

          {% set ra =
            '🏠' if rachel == 'home' else
            '🏢' if rachel == 'office' else
            '🚗'
          %}

          Catman {{ cm }} | Rachel {{ ra }}

  - binary_sensor:
      - name: "Someone Home"
        icon: mdi:home-account
        state: >
          {{ states('sensor.catman_primary_region') | lower == 'home'
             or states('sensor.rachel_primary_region') | lower == 'home' }}
            


        

C

[toggledbits]

Does that sensor reliably come up "off" when you restart HA?

[CatmanV2]

I don't believe so, It's been used in several places in HA without issue across restarts. I will see if I can double check that however, as it may simply not have been noticed if it's coming up 'off' and immediately tripping to the correct state.

C

[CatmanV2]

OK I've just done some digging: When HA restarts, all three sensors

sensor.rachel_primary_region

Go 'unknown'

Someone Home (fairly logically) goes 'Off'

The period of 'Unknown' is about 5-10 seconds before the correct status is realised.

Here's the data from the last restart

binary_sensor.someone_home	unknown	2026-05-19T12:06:55.461Z
binary_sensor.someone_home	off	2026-05-19T12:07:04.582Z
binary_sensor.someone_home	on	2026-05-19T12:07:11.505Z

TIA

C

[therealdb]

It may. I have similar behavior with other Template sensors being 0/null/off at boot.

As a defensive measure, I always make the condition to be sustained for at least 10 secs and/or avoid them being evaluated when ha has been restarted for the last 20 secs.

I rarely use ha templates, so my experience is anecdotal.

[CatmanV2]

Thanks, helpful input!

C

[therealdb]

I think you may just filter for unknown and return null. Tell that to my friend Claude

[CatmanV2]

@therealdb that would rather force (in this case) all the heating off (or on), wouldn't it?

I like the idea of a 30 second delay though.

C

[therealdb]

I don’t know if setting to null it’s better for reactor. @toggledbits here is the best source of truth.