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Looking at using Home Assistant for the first time, either on a Home Assistant Green, their own hardware or buying a cheap second hand mini PC. Sounds like Home Assistant OS is linux based using Docker for HA etc. Would I also be able to install things like MSR as well on their OS ? On the same box? Thanks.
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Having been messing around with some stuff I worked a way to self trigger some tests that I wanted to do on the HA <> MSR integration This got me wondering if there's an entity that changes state / is exposed when a configured controller goes off line? I can't see one but thought it might be hidden or something? Cheers C
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Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Expressions and LuaXP Functions

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    LibraSun
    wrote on last edited by LibraSun
    #76

    Tough call. I would say no to new features like that unless and until a recognizable minority of users requests them, which I doubt will ever happen. Diminishing returns on your time.

    I also doubt most people will be writing complex expressions of the types I've been testing lately, but I was merely trying to flush out any incipient engine problems.

    I'm glad these submissions have been equal parts entertaining and instructive, rather than an annoyance. 🙂

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      #77

      Agreed. I think that comparison of objects would be rarely used. Mostly, it seems, the expression language is used for access data in structures (like HTTP responses and entity attributes), and moving that around; simple calculations (like random delays) seem to be common; and finally, although I haven't seen it come up in MSR, is going to be time-series stuff. I've not seen a case in either MSR or RFV for object/array comparison.

      Now, float equality, yes, I have seen that, but generally speaking, they have been involved in magnitude comparisons (< and > with or without =), and that makes the round-off errors less consequential. So agree no pressing need there, either.

      To reiterate, everything you have thrown at me here is valuable, turning either into documentation changes, or a bug fix and an additional regression test.

      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        LibraSun
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        #78

        PRO TIP (inspired by preceding reply):

        WHEN PERFORMING EQUALITY TESTS among Float (high-precision) Expressions (variables) in MSR, use this format:

        1. First, create a Global Expression such as epsilon with value 0.001 (or any smaller positive value sufficiently close to 0);
        2. Rather than the test (A==B), where at least one of the variables is a Float, use (abs(A-B)<epsilon) instead.

        This avoids the chance of a phony FALSE due to mantissa rounding by the calculation engine.

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          LibraSun
          wrote on last edited by LibraSun
          #79

          QUICK CONVERSION FROM DECIMAL (number) TO BINARY (string)

          If your workflow demands a binary representation (e.g. you're using Switchboard plug-in's bit-masking features to control multi-switch status) and you really want to see 0's and 1's instead of MSR's always-decimal output, try this Expression on for size:

          binConvert :=

          b=13,
          res=[1&b>>3,1&b>>2,1&b>>1,1&b],
          join(res,"")
          

          Result: 1101

          NOTE: Here I've used only 4 "bits" but the concept generalizes to arbitrarily many bits, to accommodate larger inputs.

          BONUS: if you want to round-trip a binary string into its decimal numeric equivalent, this Expression will get you there:

          decConvert :=

          B="001101",
          binStr="0b"+B,
          0b111111 & binStr
          

          Result: 13 (decimal)

          In this case, I've chosen 6 bits, but you could employ more or less to suit the length of your input string.

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            #80

            @toggledbits , I notice that the expression

            A = [1,2,3], push(A,A)
            

            does not generate an error (it should, since push(a,b) expects a non-object in b), nor does it generate a result. Just limbo.

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              toggledbits
              wrote on last edited by toggledbits
              #81

              This will fall into the categories of "don't do this" and "will not be fixed". The reason is objects (which arrays are) pass by reference so that (in more typical usage) push(A, 55) can fulfill its definition: modifying A in place by appending 55 to it. An attempt to fix it would result in having to pass copies of the arguments (pass by value), which means the first argument then is not A, but rather a copy of A, and then push() is modifying the copy in place and not the original array, so the original array never changes, defeating the purpose of the function.

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                LibraSun
                wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                #82

                Forging ahead with more newfangled expressions...
                @toggledbits what would you expect from:

                a=["a","b","c"], b=["d","e"],
                each val in b: push(a,val)
                

                My money was on:
                ["a","b","c","d","e"]
                but instead I got:
                [["a","b","c","d","e"],["a","b","c","d","e"]]

                EDIT: Ah, here's the magic sauce:

                a=["a","b","c"], b=["d","e"],
                each val in b: c = push(a,val), c
                

                Result: ["a","b","c","d","e"]

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                  LibraSun
                  wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                  #83

                  While you're here...

                  testArr = [1,2],
                  first m in testArr with m <= 2
                  Result: (number) 1 // correct results since 21089+

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                    LibraSun
                    wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                    #84

                    @toggledbits , I see the immediately-above situation has been rectified with 21090, so I'll edit accordingly.

                    I also see that you've instantiated some of the array- and text-handling functions you mentioned earlier, so THANK YOU!

                    For example:

                    concat( [1] , [2] ) now yields [1,2]
                    slice( [1,2,3] , 1 , 2 ) now yields [2,3]
                    pop( [1,2,3] ) now yields 3
                    push( [1,2,3] , 5 ) now yields [1,2,3,5]
                    shift( [1,2,3] ) now yields 1
                    unshift( [1,2,3] , 5 ) now yields [5,1,2,3] // NOTE: currently only permits a single addend; for instance, unshift( [1],2,3,4 ) results in [2,1] not [2,3,4,1]!

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                      wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                      #85

                      This one has me scratching my head a bit:

                      b = [ ] , each i in a = [ 1 , 2 ] : do push( b , i ) , push( b , i ) done
                      

                      // yields [[1,1,2,2],[1,1,2,2]]
                      // expecting [1,1,2,2]

                      while this modified version:

                      b=[],each i in a=[1,2]: do push(b,i) done
                      

                      // yields [[1,2],[1,2]]
                      // expecting [1,2]

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                        toggledbits
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #86

                        The result of push is an array.

                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                        • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                          The result of push is an array.

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                          LibraSun
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #87

                          @toggledbits said in Expressions and LuaXP Functions:

                          The result of push is an array.

                          But if you

                          push ( [ ] , 1 )
                          

                          shouldn't you get [ 1 ]? And not [ [ 1 ] , [ 1 ] ]?

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                            #88

                            It depends on what the complete expression is. Remember that the value of each is every non-null expression result during the iteration. So an array of arrays is a very possible response.

                            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                              It depends on what the complete expression is. Remember that the value of each is every non-null expression result during the iteration. So an array of arrays is a very possible response.

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                              LibraSun
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #89

                              @toggledbits Unless I'm mis-reading the way each works, I had anticipated the underlying interpretation of:

                              b=[],each i in a=[1,2]: do push(b,i) done
                              

                              to be as follows:
                              "Start with an empty array named b. For each item in the array named a, starting with 1, append that value into array b. First, you would get [ 1 ], and the next iteration, using the 2 from a, append that to b to yield [ 1 , 2 ]."

                              Any I missing an important piece of the puzzle? (I do recognize that do/done is not necessary here, but I left it in for direct comparison with the expression immediately preceding.)

                              Thanks. Sorry to give you grief over these operations.

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                                toggledbits
                                wrote on last edited by toggledbits
                                #90

                                If you want to see what b looks like at the end, you need to do this:

                                b=[],each i in a=[1,2]: do push(b,i) done, b
                                

                                If you don't (which is how you've done it so far), you are seeing the result of each, which is an array, and since each expression within the each has resulted in an array, the result of that each is therefore an array of arrays, and referring to the same array by reference.

                                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                  LibraSun
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #91

                                  Makes perfect sense now. Thanks!

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                                    LibraSun
                                    wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                                    #92

                                    This one seems to evade the purpose of isnull() somehow:

                                    isnull(1/a) // returns false
                                    

                                    whereas

                                    isnull(a) // returns true, as expected
                                    

                                    In both cases, a is undefined.

                                    I also cannot seem to create an expression that results in true for isNan(), no matter what I throw at it.

                                    Finally, why would bool(null) return TRUE?

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #93

                                      isNaN([1,2,3]) and isNaN("ten"/2) and isNaN("ten" + "eight") are all true

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                                        toggledbits
                                        wrote on last edited by toggledbits
                                        #94

                                        null coerces to zero (0) for arithmetic operations, so 1/null is infinity which is not null.

                                        int("abc") results in NaN which will return isNaN(int("abc"))==true

                                        bool(null) should return false and I will fix it.

                                        Edit: just to follow up, I've added Infinity as a keyword/value to the grammar, with a supporting isInfinity(value) test function (you can also test via value === Infinity), and added that to the documentation for the next release/build. And bool(null) is fixed. FYI, bool() takes a slightly deeper view of "truthiness" than JavaScript natively: the values (number) 0, null, empty string ("") and NaN are false as in JavaScript, but so additionally in lexpjs/Reactor are string "0", string "no", string "off", and string "false"; any other value of any type is true (including empty arrays and objects).

                                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                          LibraSun
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #95

                                          MSR RECIPES: Compact object-based message composer

                                          Several of my Rules send out SMTP emails, and I'm always looking for a compact method of composing these outbound messages, using the fewest expressions along with a simple "mail merge" template. Here's a two-variable approach you might consider:

                                          msgBody ► "This is my message." 
                                          // leave blank if msgBody will be set by other Rules
                                          
                                          msgTemplate ► 
                                          tmp = {hdr:"Header here" ,  msg:msgBody ,  ftr:"Footer here" ,  crlf:"\n"},
                                          send = {message:tmp.hdr+tmp.crlf+tmp.msg+tmp.crlf+tmp.ftr} , send.message
                                          

                                          I hope this can be adapted to your workflow somehow!

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