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[Solved] DynamicGroupController updating members issue
CrilleC
Edit: Solved in latest-26221. Bare-metal latest-26193 I have this group: "OKforLarm": name: OK för Larm select: - include_controller: vera - include_capability: door_sensor filter_expression: entity.attributes.door_sensor.state It contains the entities I expect but behaves a bit odd. When I open vera>device_10097 the entity attribute door_sensor.state changes to true but it won't show up as member in the group, when I also open vera>device_10095 they both shows as members and when I close vera>device_10095 it disappear from the group but when I close vera>device_10097 it lingers in the group until I restart Reactor.
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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DynamicGroupController and attributes
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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Arming Envisalink panel from MSR
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Upgrade Issues
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[SOLVED] Conflicting Set Reaction Groups Appear to Fire Simultaneously in Single Rule Evaluation
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[SOLVED] Question regarding "in" vs "contains" vs contents of the string
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Logon screen timeout
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Noticing since 170 that the lock screen doesn't switch to the logon prompt but, rather, stays on the active UI until such time as you go to click something within it. Then it jumps to the login screen. Brave browser Brave 1.92.139 (Official Build) (arm64) Chromium: 150.0.7871.114
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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Upgrade advice - upgrade from aarch64 to ARM64 image
T
I'm currently on version 26011. I understand that the aarch64 image is no longer supported. So, I therefore need to update to the ARM64 image. Can anyone possibly suggest how I update my docker compose.yaml file (see below). Ideally I'd like to keep my existing reactions etc. rather than start from scratch. # Multi-System Reactor template docker-compose.yml (version 22160) # # Change the lines indicated by "DO"... # services: reactor: container_name: reactor environment: # DO change the TZ: line to set your local time zone. # See valid TZ list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones TZ: GB # # DO NOT change this path. Your directory location is in "source" below. REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX: /var/reactor # DO change the image below to the one you are using (e.g. armv7l or aarch64 for RPi 4) image: toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64 restart: "always" expose: - 8111 ports: - 8111:8111 volumes: # DO change the /home/username/reactor below to the directory you created for # your local data; DO NOT change the /var/reactor part - /home/pi/docker/reactor:/var/reactor - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro tmpfs: /tmp
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Alexa for MSR, any interest?
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[RESOLVED] Telegram notification broke with latest update
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[RESOLVED] Phantom device, “INFO” appears
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[RESOLVED] Mode Status NULL
wmarcolinW
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[RESOLVED] HTTP query failing after version 26177
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Question about the find function
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[Answered] OK to remove old json files?
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Deprecation Announcement: 32-bit ARM *docker* images
toggledbitsT
If you are using the armv7l docker image, the OpenJS Foundation that publishes node is no longer producing 32-bit builds as of v24. That means the last supported LTS version of node for armv7l is v22, which will go End-of-Life in May 2027. Therefore, the Reactor armv7l image is now deprecated and will only be produced until node v22 goes EOL, and I will not publish armv7l images beyond that date. If you are running an RPi 3 or earlier with Reactor, you are on this image, and will need to upgrade hardware to a 64-bit model and use the arm64 image. If you need help getting it done, ask in this category.
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[Solved] build 26150 - engine not starting
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@toggledbits I pulled the image (well, Watchtower did) and within minutes the whole system went offline. The log looks like it ends with 26143. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mkahsmgf/26qq82mw-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lqyfljfi/22f8on0t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lsb61rw8/24oenqi2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/rule-lrh58he0:S-1c00gfib-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1c00dylr-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1nam9w5u-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miuh2qqi/22ls4lql-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1vj8sdfc-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1qanz01x-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/24lq19p6-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mk0o8iox/23oy468y-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miscg2h3/rule-miscg2h3:S-22gmbq1c-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrfjke/238p0old-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-m7ccsso5/re-m7ccsso5-1r0myjxa-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/19nl9wq2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3xk9t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3vv5m-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/re-ln7j2nqp-22mx9lzd-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/22mx87c8-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-licneppy/1mzwe7ht-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ml3194ih/25jqt1j4-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrg7kf/227hshak-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13ua1p95-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13uagam7-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x4cbv-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x2fyl-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-lscjrws1/238p5c22-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lbwr0jvq/1xkczf03-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <Structure:NOTICE> Structure Structure#1 stopped [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <app:NOTICE> Closing APIs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: disconnecting from "192.168.1.23#82" (1001 service closing) [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.548Z <httpapi:NOTICE> HTTP API closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: server closed [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <httpapi:INFO> HTTP server closed. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <app:NOTICE> Stopping timers... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Shutdown complete, process ID 1 [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Closing logs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <default:null> Closing log I can SSH to the VM. Alas, I do not have the previous image for 26143 as I'm a little too quick sometimes on housekeeping.
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http request action & digest auth
tunnusT
I’m using the HTTP Request action in MSR and need to authenticate against an endpoint that uses HTTP Digest authentication. Now that endpoint was changed to use SHA-256 in digest auth, so I would like to know if MSR supports it, or is it limited to MD5-based digest auth?
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Expressions and LuaXP Functions

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    LibraSun
    wrote on last edited by LibraSun
    #84

    @toggledbits , I see the immediately-above situation has been rectified with 21090, so I'll edit accordingly.

    I also see that you've instantiated some of the array- and text-handling functions you mentioned earlier, so THANK YOU!

    For example:

    concat( [1] , [2] ) now yields [1,2]
    slice( [1,2,3] , 1 , 2 ) now yields [2,3]
    pop( [1,2,3] ) now yields 3
    push( [1,2,3] , 5 ) now yields [1,2,3,5]
    shift( [1,2,3] ) now yields 1
    unshift( [1,2,3] , 5 ) now yields [5,1,2,3] // NOTE: currently only permits a single addend; for instance, unshift( [1],2,3,4 ) results in [2,1] not [2,3,4,1]!

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      wrote on last edited by LibraSun
      #85

      This one has me scratching my head a bit:

      b = [ ] , each i in a = [ 1 , 2 ] : do push( b , i ) , push( b , i ) done
      

      // yields [[1,1,2,2],[1,1,2,2]]
      // expecting [1,1,2,2]

      while this modified version:

      b=[],each i in a=[1,2]: do push(b,i) done
      

      // yields [[1,2],[1,2]]
      // expecting [1,2]

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        toggledbits
        wrote on last edited by
        #86

        The result of push is an array.

        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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        • toggledbitsT toggledbits

          The result of push is an array.

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          LibraSun
          wrote on last edited by
          #87

          @toggledbits said in Expressions and LuaXP Functions:

          The result of push is an array.

          But if you

          push ( [ ] , 1 )
          

          shouldn't you get [ 1 ]? And not [ [ 1 ] , [ 1 ] ]?

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            wrote on last edited by
            #88

            It depends on what the complete expression is. Remember that the value of each is every non-null expression result during the iteration. So an array of arrays is a very possible response.

            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            • toggledbitsT toggledbits

              It depends on what the complete expression is. Remember that the value of each is every non-null expression result during the iteration. So an array of arrays is a very possible response.

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              LibraSun
              wrote on last edited by
              #89

              @toggledbits Unless I'm mis-reading the way each works, I had anticipated the underlying interpretation of:

              b=[],each i in a=[1,2]: do push(b,i) done
              

              to be as follows:
              "Start with an empty array named b. For each item in the array named a, starting with 1, append that value into array b. First, you would get [ 1 ], and the next iteration, using the 2 from a, append that to b to yield [ 1 , 2 ]."

              Any I missing an important piece of the puzzle? (I do recognize that do/done is not necessary here, but I left it in for direct comparison with the expression immediately preceding.)

              Thanks. Sorry to give you grief over these operations.

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                toggledbits
                wrote on last edited by toggledbits
                #90

                If you want to see what b looks like at the end, you need to do this:

                b=[],each i in a=[1,2]: do push(b,i) done, b
                

                If you don't (which is how you've done it so far), you are seeing the result of each, which is an array, and since each expression within the each has resulted in an array, the result of that each is therefore an array of arrays, and referring to the same array by reference.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  LibraSun
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #91

                  Makes perfect sense now. Thanks!

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                    LibraSun
                    wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                    #92

                    This one seems to evade the purpose of isnull() somehow:

                    isnull(1/a) // returns false
                    

                    whereas

                    isnull(a) // returns true, as expected
                    

                    In both cases, a is undefined.

                    I also cannot seem to create an expression that results in true for isNan(), no matter what I throw at it.

                    Finally, why would bool(null) return TRUE?

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                      #93

                      isNaN([1,2,3]) and isNaN("ten"/2) and isNaN("ten" + "eight") are all true

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                        toggledbits
                        wrote on last edited by toggledbits
                        #94

                        null coerces to zero (0) for arithmetic operations, so 1/null is infinity which is not null.

                        int("abc") results in NaN which will return isNaN(int("abc"))==true

                        bool(null) should return false and I will fix it.

                        Edit: just to follow up, I've added Infinity as a keyword/value to the grammar, with a supporting isInfinity(value) test function (you can also test via value === Infinity), and added that to the documentation for the next release/build. And bool(null) is fixed. FYI, bool() takes a slightly deeper view of "truthiness" than JavaScript natively: the values (number) 0, null, empty string ("") and NaN are false as in JavaScript, but so additionally in lexpjs/Reactor are string "0", string "no", string "off", and string "false"; any other value of any type is true (including empty arrays and objects).

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                          LibraSun
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                          #95

                          MSR RECIPES: Compact object-based message composer

                          Several of my Rules send out SMTP emails, and I'm always looking for a compact method of composing these outbound messages, using the fewest expressions along with a simple "mail merge" template. Here's a two-variable approach you might consider:

                          msgBody ► "This is my message." 
                          // leave blank if msgBody will be set by other Rules
                          
                          msgTemplate ► 
                          tmp = {hdr:"Header here" ,  msg:msgBody ,  ftr:"Footer here" ,  crlf:"\n"},
                          send = {message:tmp.hdr+tmp.crlf+tmp.msg+tmp.crlf+tmp.ftr} , send.message
                          

                          I hope this can be adapted to your workflow somehow!

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                            #96
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                              LibraSun
                              wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                              #97

                              Can someone please explain how you would create an array within a Rule that does the following:
                              (a) begins with an expression that is an empty array;
                              (b) has another expression containing the .dim_level of a given light;
                              (c) each time the Rule sets (activates/triggers), the value of (b) is pushed into (a)

                              Working example:
                              First time light gets turned on, the rule runs. Dim level of 50 is pushed onto end of [ ], making it [50].
                              Next time light turns on, the rule again runs and pushes the dim level of 75 onto array, making it [50,75].
                              Etc.

                              I can't quite grok where to put my push ( ). In a [Set Variable] using ${{ }} substitution? In an auxiliary Expression? (I've attempted this approach and can only get one iteration along, meaning the array stops growing after 1 element.) And how does one declare an empty array inside an Expression that will otherwise be modified by the Rule, which normally requires it to be blank?

                              Thanks!

                              @toggledbits , to put this more succinctly, I find myself unable to implement in MSR the construct you laid out here for creating a time series.

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                                LibraSun
                                wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                                #98

                                SOLUTION: This works for creating a timed data series in MSR...

                                test1 := if go=="1" then push( test1 , getEntity( "vera>device_110" ).attributes.dimming.level , 5 ) else test1 endif

                                ...BUT...

                                you must first pre-populate the test1 variable with an empty array [ ], SAVE, then paste in the above definition. Otherwise, MSR will throw a "no such 'push' function on (null)" error! (I call this the "Chicken and the Egg" conundrum, whereas Reactor for Luup doesn't complain about doing push to a non-existent array; it just invisibly creates one for you.)

                                In my set reaction, I do a [Set Variable] [ go ] = 1, and in the reset reaction [Set Variable] [ go ] = 0, with an Interval imposed on the Rule's sole Trigger condition, making it go TRUE for 2 seconds every 60 seconds.

                                NOTE: Interestingly, with Interval limited to 3 repeats, the variable go changes to "1" only 3 times (expected), yet somehow the array gets fully populated with 5 values (unexpected), so I must not fully understand the leading- and trailing-edge nature of Interval as it applies to Expression re-evaluation. I'm sure @toggledbits will elucidate? Or is this truly unexpected behavior?

                                ANSWER: Unchecking "Force re-evaluation of expressions and conditions" in both the set and reset reactions cured the problem of "too many data points". There was my problem.

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                                  SOLUTION: This works for creating a timed data series in MSR...

                                  test1 := if go=="1" then push( test1 , getEntity( "vera>device_110" ).attributes.dimming.level , 5 ) else test1 endif

                                  ...BUT...

                                  you must first pre-populate the test1 variable with an empty array [ ], SAVE, then paste in the above definition. Otherwise, MSR will throw a "no such 'push' function on (null)" error! (I call this the "Chicken and the Egg" conundrum, whereas Reactor for Luup doesn't complain about doing push to a non-existent array; it just invisibly creates one for you.)

                                  In my set reaction, I do a [Set Variable] [ go ] = 1, and in the reset reaction [Set Variable] [ go ] = 0, with an Interval imposed on the Rule's sole Trigger condition, making it go TRUE for 2 seconds every 60 seconds.

                                  NOTE: Interestingly, with Interval limited to 3 repeats, the variable go changes to "1" only 3 times (expected), yet somehow the array gets fully populated with 5 values (unexpected), so I must not fully understand the leading- and trailing-edge nature of Interval as it applies to Expression re-evaluation. I'm sure @toggledbits will elucidate? Or is this truly unexpected behavior?

                                  ANSWER: Unchecking "Force re-evaluation of expressions and conditions" in both the set and reset reactions cured the problem of "too many data points". There was my problem.

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                                  toggledbits
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #99

                                  @librasun said in Expressions and LuaXP Functions:

                                  you must first pre-populate the test1 variable with an empty array

                                  You don't actually. This is just a bug in lexpjs. I've fixed it in my local copy, will be in the next build. It's just this simple:

                                  bca7371e-5581-4a44-a729-4f993cb00d38-image.png

                                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                    LibraSun
                                    wrote on last edited by LibraSun
                                    #100

                                    @toggledbits Do you want to include conditional key references like this in lexpjs?
                                    obj={'122':['a',5, true]}
                                    obj?['123'][0] // null or throws error
                                    obj?['122'][0] // (string) "a"

                                    By this I mean do you want to have square bracketed key references treated the way potentially non-existent dot references are handled using question marks.

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                                      toggledbits
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #101

                                      Confused. Are you asking for this to be added?

                                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                        LibraSun
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #102

                                        I think so, if it's possible. Just wanted to (a) make sure that ?[ doesn't exist yet (my testing seems inconclusive), and (b) you consider it necessary. I've already bumped into a potential use case.

                                        So, I suppose "Yes, add it" at least for consistency with existing ?. usage.

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                                        • LibraSunL LibraSun

                                          I think so, if it's possible. Just wanted to (a) make sure that ?[ doesn't exist yet (my testing seems inconclusive), and (b) you consider it necessary. I've already bumped into a potential use case.

                                          So, I suppose "Yes, add it" at least for consistency with existing ?. usage.

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                                          toggledbits
                                          wrote on last edited by toggledbits
                                          #103

                                          @librasun OK... so I think I'm seeing through the confusion now...

                                          The ?[ and ?. operators already exist; they were added together with ?? a long time ago. They are left-associative, so they refer to the operand on the left. In your examples, they will not work as you are trying to get them to because obj is non-null in every case (it's the first thing defined in the example). I think what you mean to say is:

                                          obj={'122':['a',5, true]}
                                          obj['123']?[0] // which will return null and not throw an error
                                          obj['122']?[0] // which will return (string) "a"
                                          

                                          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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