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Can you run MSR on Home Assistant OS ?
cw-kidC
Looking at using Home Assistant for the first time, either on a Home Assistant Green, their own hardware or buying a cheap second hand mini PC. Sounds like Home Assistant OS is linux based using Docker for HA etc. Would I also be able to install things like MSR as well on their OS ? On the same box? Thanks.
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How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
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This trigger no longer working - complaining about the operator needing changing
cw-kidC
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Self test
CatmanV2C
Having been messing around with some stuff I worked a way to self trigger some tests that I wanted to do on the HA <> MSR integration This got me wondering if there's an entity that changes state / is exposed when a configured controller goes off line? I can't see one but thought it might be hidden or something? Cheers C
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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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[Reactor] Bug when sending MQTT boolean payloads
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Difficulty defining repeating annual period
R
I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
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Need help with sequence
T
Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
PablaP
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Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
CatmanV2C
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Home Remote dashboard app and MSR HTTP API

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    The light icons update for Vera device objects.

    If I went to the wall switch and turned off the Lounge Main Light the icon and state of the device in the app would change to being OFF

    Screenshot_20210429_220156_com.thehomeremote.homeremote.jpg

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      Okay, roger that, and thanks. It's great that HR (I think I called it HA for some odd reason earlier, sorry) and Vera "talk" that way. I'm now recalling that the lengthy tutorial I watched of his -- where the user had to essentially "code" all the feedback from actual devices -- involved a WiFi-connected amplifier. Unlike Vera, that device didn't "push" updates to HR in real time, so it had to be polled on every change.

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        Okay, roger that, and thanks. It's great that HR (I think I called it HA for some odd reason earlier, sorry) and Vera "talk" that way. I'm now recalling that the lengthy tutorial I watched of his -- where the user had to essentially "code" all the feedback from actual devices -- involved a WiFi-connected amplifier. Unlike Vera, that device didn't "push" updates to HR in real time, so it had to be polled on every change.

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        @librasun A lot of plugins have been integrated in the app where you no longer have to code anything really to control supported receivers etc. It's a pretty highly integrated app!

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          I am using Group pages in HR rather than building my own custom pages from a blank slate.

          Group pages are auto generated for you. You just create a Windows Explorer folder like structure in the designer application, for your desired menu structure / layout and add Vera devices and scenes to them from the list it already imported.

          Doing it that way I haven't needed to manually code anything for device Status feedback it just happens.

          Have a look at my HR thread on the Vera forum, I covered the basic concept of using Group pages in HR.

          Creating your own custom pages looks much more involved like what @Tarkus has done and his project looks amazing but beyond my skills I think.

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            This is how my dashboard looks

            Nov 13, 2020

            CW's Version 1.0 dashboard based on "Groups"

            CW's Version 1.0 dashboard based on "Groups"

            Hi Here is my first attempt at an Imperihome app dashboard replacement using Home Remote, I still have some small glitches and issues, but overall its finished ish… For reference here was my Imperihome dashboard. I have used the Groups pages, as that seemed like the quicker way to get up and...

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              Thanks, guys, this has me excited to try something with HR (or, later MSR's own Dashboard) which completely sidesteps Vera. Namely, creating "virtual devices" that live entirely on MSR (probably as Expressions at first, but conceivably as fully-blown Rules standing in place of virtual devices).

              I'd love to have a Group page in Home Remote, where each square represents a corresponding entity on MSR. As @cw-kid proposes above, the back-and-forth could be wired up entirely via HTTP requests.

              (My next question was going to be, "Does anyone have HR running in a Docker container?" I recall it runs on various platforms.)

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                Home Remote the designer application is Windows only. This is the application used to create your project.

                The front end dashboard apps are Android, iOS and Windows.

                Once you have created your project file you can publish it. I publish my project file to my internal ftp server then every mobile device phones and tablets look at that location for any new project file updates.

                So the mobile apps just auto update to the latest version of my project when the app is launched on that device.

                So no more running round to each mobile device to update it like with Imperihome.

                No need for Docker.

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                • LibraSunL LibraSun

                  Thanks, guys, this has me excited to try something with HR (or, later MSR's own Dashboard) which completely sidesteps Vera. Namely, creating "virtual devices" that live entirely on MSR (probably as Expressions at first, but conceivably as fully-blown Rules standing in place of virtual devices).

                  I'd love to have a Group page in Home Remote, where each square represents a corresponding entity on MSR. As @cw-kid proposes above, the back-and-forth could be wired up entirely via HTTP requests.

                  (My next question was going to be, "Does anyone have HR running in a Docker container?" I recall it runs on various platforms.)

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                  @librasun said in Home Remote dashboard app and MSR HTTP API:

                  Namely, creating "virtual devices" that live entirely on MSR (probably as Expressions at first, but conceivably as fully-blown Rules standing in place of virtual devices).

                  Your the expressions expert, I wouldn't know where to start! 😉

                  But virtual devices on MSR could be a good idea.

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                    Thanks, guys, this has me excited to try something with HR (or, later MSR's own Dashboard) which completely sidesteps Vera. Namely, creating "virtual devices" that live entirely on MSR (probably as Expressions at first, but conceivably as fully-blown Rules standing in place of virtual devices).

                    I'd love to have a Group page in Home Remote, where each square represents a corresponding entity on MSR. As @cw-kid proposes above, the back-and-forth could be wired up entirely via HTTP requests.

                    (My next question was going to be, "Does anyone have HR running in a Docker container?" I recall it runs on various platforms.)

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                    @librasun here is a demo I put together on Home Remote utilizing my personal project. I also use MSR for a majority of the conditional logic. The demo runs about 9 minutes.

                    Home remote 3.0 Demo
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                      Awesome, will check it out! Meanwhile, here's @toggledbits ' official stance on "Virtual Devices on MSR".

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                        @librasun here is a demo I put together on Home Remote utilizing my personal project. I also use MSR for a majority of the conditional logic. The demo runs about 9 minutes.

                        Home remote 3.0 Demo
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                        @tarkus very nice!

                        Yep, I will be looking into this for sure.

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