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Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?

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    LibraSun
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    #16

    Glad you explained all that, because I had a sneaking suspicion that the timing (and not just the order) of the [Set Variable] was important here. Kinda hard sometimes to keep it all straight, insofar as the human is not the most "logic"-al of engines!

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      #17

      OK understood I will change the expression back to how it was and remove the set variable in the set reaction area.

      I will increase the trigger repeat to 5 minutes and test it one evening when its dark outside.

      Ideally I'd like for a different colour each time to be selected, but I guess the expression for the random numbers could select the same number again and therefore the colour would not change for that cycle.

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        #18

        Alternatively, you could randomize the color selection itself (not just limited to the 4-5 RGB choices you have now). More variety at the expense of slightly more complicated MSR expressions... but with a net savings in the number of Group Constraints required (just one instead of N for N colors).

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        • LibraSunL LibraSun

          Alternatively, you could randomize the color selection itself (not just limited to the 4-5 RGB choices you have now). More variety at the expense of slightly more complicated MSR expressions... but with a net savings in the number of Group Constraints required (just one instead of N for N colors).

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          cw-kid
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          #19

          @librasun

          Sounds great but I don't know how to do it LOL.

          As is I have 7 predefined colours which are the primary hex codes for those colours, red, green, blue, purple, orange, pink, yellow.

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            #20

            You've got me curious now: What make/model of garden lights do you have? And what is their ultimate color palette? Have you tried setting them to intermediate colors using the [Set_Color_RGB] action in MSR, for instance?

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            • cw-kidC cw-kid

              OK understood I will change the expression back to how it was and remove the set variable in the set reaction area.

              I will increase the trigger repeat to 5 minutes and test it one evening when its dark outside.

              Ideally I'd like for a different colour each time to be selected, but I guess the expression for the random numbers could select the same number again and therefore the colour would not change for that cycle.

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              #21

              @cw-kid said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

              Ideally I'd like for a different colour each time to be selected, but I guess the expression for the random numbers could select the same number again and therefore the colour would not change for that cycle.

              I use this to generate a random number that has not been used last time. In the reaction use express variable randomVal, once the reaction is over set randomVal to
              ${{int(split(join(split("1234567", randomVal || 0),""),"")[floor(random()*6)])}}
              Then every time you get a different number.

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              • LibraSunL LibraSun

                You've got me curious now: What make/model of garden lights do you have? And what is their ultimate color palette? Have you tried setting them to intermediate colors using the [Set_Color_RGB] action in MSR, for instance?

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                @librasun

                It's a Fibaro RGBW module v1

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                • ElcidE Elcid

                  @cw-kid said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

                  Ideally I'd like for a different colour each time to be selected, but I guess the expression for the random numbers could select the same number again and therefore the colour would not change for that cycle.

                  I use this to generate a random number that has not been used last time. In the reaction use express variable randomVal, once the reaction is over set randomVal to
                  ${{int(split(join(split("1234567", randomVal || 0),""),"")[floor(random()*6)])}}
                  Then every time you get a different number.

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                  @elcid said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

                  I use this to generate a random number that has not been used last time

                  That's what I needed!

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                  • cw-kidC cw-kid

                    @elcid said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

                    I use this to generate a random number that has not been used last time

                    That's what I needed!

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                    #24

                    @cw-kid This is probably more efficient

                    ${{int(substr(replace("1234567", randomVal || 0,""),floor(random()*6),1))}}
                    

                    Then I looked at moving this to MSR as I have it in Reactor, . I found the remove function and this is now easily expanded to larger number and you can easily set a range

                    ${{remove( 1..7, randomVal - 1)[floor(random()*6)]}}
                    

                    @toggledbits , possible bug
                    list(1..7]) gives [[1,2,3,4,5,6,7]] a nested array.
                    Is that expected.

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                    • ElcidE Elcid

                      @cw-kid This is probably more efficient

                      ${{int(substr(replace("1234567", randomVal || 0,""),floor(random()*6),1))}}
                      

                      Then I looked at moving this to MSR as I have it in Reactor, . I found the remove function and this is now easily expanded to larger number and you can easily set a range

                      ${{remove( 1..7, randomVal - 1)[floor(random()*6)]}}
                      

                      @toggledbits , possible bug
                      list(1..7]) gives [[1,2,3,4,5,6,7]] a nested array.
                      Is that expected.

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                      @elcid said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

                      @toggledbits , possible bug
                      list(1..7]) gives [[1,2,3,4,5,6,7]] a nested array.
                      Is that expected.

                      Yes, because 1..7 on its own produces an array. So wrapping it in list() gives you an array containing an array.

                      FWIW, list() is basically deprecated, because lexpjs lets you use common array notation (e.g. [1,2,3,4,5,6,7]) to define an array.

                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      • ElcidE Elcid

                        @cw-kid This is probably more efficient

                        ${{int(substr(replace("1234567", randomVal || 0,""),floor(random()*6),1))}}
                        

                        Then I looked at moving this to MSR as I have it in Reactor, . I found the remove function and this is now easily expanded to larger number and you can easily set a range

                        ${{remove( 1..7, randomVal - 1)[floor(random()*6)]}}
                        

                        @toggledbits , possible bug
                        list(1..7]) gives [[1,2,3,4,5,6,7]] a nested array.
                        Is that expected.

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                        @elcid said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

                        @cw-kid This is probably more efficient

                        ${{int(substr(replace("1234567", randomVal || 0,""),floor(random()*6),1))}}
                        

                        Then I looked at moving this to MSR as I have it in Reactor, . I found the remove function and this is now easily expanded to larger number and you can easily set a range

                        ${{remove( list(1..7)[0], randomVal - 1)[floor(random()*6)]}}
                        

                        GENIUS! Gonna borrow this.

                        @toggledbits , possible bug
                        list(1..7]) gives [[1,2,3,4,5,6,7]] a nested array.
                        Is that expected.

                        Yes, that's expected, since 1..7 itself creates an array – namely, [1,2,3,4,5,6,7] – while list() (now deprecated = avoid in MSR) also turns its argument into an array. I suggest omit list and see if things improve.

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                        • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                          @elcid said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

                          @toggledbits , possible bug
                          list(1..7]) gives [[1,2,3,4,5,6,7]] a nested array.
                          Is that expected.

                          Yes, because 1..7 on its own produces an array. So wrapping it in list() gives you an array containing an array.

                          FWIW, list() is basically deprecated, because lexpjs lets you use common array notation (e.g. [1,2,3,4,5,6,7]) to define an array.

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                          @toggledbits just discovered that as you posted, is it mentioned in the docs, as I had not come acreoss it?

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                            Yup. That's in the docs.

                            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                            • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                              Yup. That's in the docs.

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                              #29

                              @toggledbits
                              Its a bit confusing, i read this
                              "[5,7,9], so this function is now obsolete and may be removed later)"
                              and tried [1..7], when that failed, I assumed the only way to spread was list(1..7)
                              May be add a note about 1..7 being the same as list(1..7). As I found it some what unclear.

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                              • ElcidE Elcid

                                @toggledbits
                                Its a bit confusing, i read this
                                "[5,7,9], so this function is now obsolete and may be removed later)"
                                and tried [1..7], when that failed, I assumed the only way to spread was list(1..7)
                                May be add a note about 1..7 being the same as list(1..7). As I found it some what unclear.

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                                toggledbits
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                                @elcid , it says:

                                c4320d3a-82e9-463d-80f3-cf95bd0f4c34-image.png

                                I think this is pretty clear. The range operator is documented separately.

                                May be add a note about 1..7 being the same as list(1..7).

                                But it's not. That's how we got started. 🙂

                                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                                  @elcid , it says:

                                  c4320d3a-82e9-463d-80f3-cf95bd0f4c34-image.png

                                  I think this is pretty clear. The range operator is documented separately.

                                  May be add a note about 1..7 being the same as list(1..7).

                                  But it's not. That's how we got started. 🙂

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                                  @toggledbits said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

                                  May be add a note about 1..7 being the same as list(1..7).

                                  But it's not. That's how we got started.

                                  I mean 1..7 being what I assume list(1..7) would produce a single array. That's why I found it confusing, I think that I expected a array to have [ ] around them.
                                  Maybe add "also see range operator".

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                                  • ElcidE Elcid

                                    @toggledbits said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

                                    May be add a note about 1..7 being the same as list(1..7).

                                    But it's not. That's how we got started.

                                    I mean 1..7 being what I assume list(1..7) would produce a single array. That's why I found it confusing, I think that I expected a array to have [ ] around them.
                                    Maybe add "also see range operator".

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                                    @elcid said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

                                    I mean 1..7 being what I assume list(1..7) would produce

                                    Funny you should mention this, since all yesterday, I grappled with the question, "How can I find the minimum of an array in MSR?" (Answer: Not easily at all!) Turns out the min() function only works on a list with 2 elements, not arrays of arbitrary length. In other words, min(1,2,3) yields 1 without a hitch, whereas min([1,2,3]) returns null (for good reason: There's no guarantee the argument will always be a 1-dimensional numeric array!). Same for max().

                                    Which led me to the realization that there's no direct way in MSR to "convert" an array into a list. Seems your brain encountered the same type of mental collision while trying to work out your imported expression. 🙂

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                                      @elcid said in Expression to randomly run Global Reactions ?:

                                      I mean 1..7 being what I assume list(1..7) would produce

                                      Funny you should mention this, since all yesterday, I grappled with the question, "How can I find the minimum of an array in MSR?" (Answer: Not easily at all!) Turns out the min() function only works on a list with 2 elements, not arrays of arbitrary length. In other words, min(1,2,3) yields 1 without a hitch, whereas min([1,2,3]) returns null (for good reason: There's no guarantee the argument will always be a 1-dimensional numeric array!). Same for max().

                                      Which led me to the realization that there's no direct way in MSR to "convert" an array into a list. Seems your brain encountered the same type of mental collision while trying to work out your imported expression. 🙂

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                                      @librasun My notes in the code:

                                      911a7b09-dc4b-4bd3-8cdf-ac8e14be82bf-image.png

                                      Guess it's time to get to work.

                                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                      • cw-kidC cw-kid

                                        @librasun

                                        What makes the expression run and generate a new number after a period of time?

                                        This is what I have so far.

                                        Trigger is the virtual switch in Vera.
                                        Pulse every 1 seconds and repeat every 60 seconds.

                                        40a55606-5dd6-4434-8131-03320411fb36-image.png

                                        Set Reaction - Groups that look at the expression named "ChooseColour" and its current number value and then runs a Global Reaction now directly sets that colour on the LED strip.

                                        c928ebf7-c1cf-4400-9230-0c3d15953375-image.png

                                        The random number generator expression named "ChooseColour" this is a rule expression not a Global Expression.

                                        b1a6ba74-2a13-40bc-b9f3-5cdebc0be840-image.png

                                        I added an 1 minute interval to the triggers and the virtual switch is true trigger is also pulsing every minute.

                                        The expression is now changing numbers every minute, but the reactions don't seem to be running as the colour is stuck and not changing.

                                        Also I think this expression generates the number zero which I don't have assigned to any reaction.

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                                        @cw-kid Just so you know, I have a "Color Cycler" rule that uses the [Entity Action] [Set Color RGB] action with this expression inside each field ("R", "G" and "B"):

                                        ${{ floor(random()*255) }}
                                        

                                        which makes the associated light (a Hue bulb) adopt a perfectly random color. Just something you might consider trying.

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                                          Thanks I will try the "Color Cycler" in a brand new rule to test it out.

                                          I haven't as yet looked at updating my current rule with the new expression to always guarantee a new random number that hasn't been repeated etc.

                                          I will have a look over the weekend. Sure I will have questions.

                                          Cheers

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                                          • [SOLVED] Conflicting Set Reaction Groups Appear to Fire Simultaneously in Single Rule Evaluation
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