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Logon screen timeout
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Noticing since 170 that the lock screen doesn't switch to the logon prompt but, rather, stays on the active UI until such time as you go to click something within it. Then it jumps to the login screen. Brave browser Brave 1.92.139 (Official Build) (arm64) Chromium: 150.0.7871.114
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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Upgrade advice - upgrade from aarch64 to ARM64 image
T
I'm currently on version 26011. I understand that the aarch64 image is no longer supported. So, I therefore need to update to the ARM64 image. Can anyone possibly suggest how I update my docker compose.yaml file (see below). Ideally I'd like to keep my existing reactions etc. rather than start from scratch. # Multi-System Reactor template docker-compose.yml (version 22160) # # Change the lines indicated by "DO"... # services: reactor: container_name: reactor environment: # DO change the TZ: line to set your local time zone. # See valid TZ list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones TZ: GB # # DO NOT change this path. Your directory location is in "source" below. REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX: /var/reactor # DO change the image below to the one you are using (e.g. armv7l or aarch64 for RPi 4) image: toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64 restart: "always" expose: - 8111 ports: - 8111:8111 volumes: # DO change the /home/username/reactor below to the directory you created for # your local data; DO NOT change the /var/reactor part - /home/pi/docker/reactor:/var/reactor - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro tmpfs: /tmp
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Alexa for MSR, any interest?
MikeReadingtonM
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[RESOLVED] Telegram notification broke with latest update
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[RESOLVED] Phantom device, “INFO” appears
wmarcolinW
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[RESOLVED] Mode Status NULL
wmarcolinW
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[RESOLVED] HTTP query failing after version 26177
wmarcolinW
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Question about the find function
wmarcolinW
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[Answered] OK to remove old json files?
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Deprecation Announcement: 32-bit ARM *docker* images
toggledbitsT
If you are using the armv7l docker image, the OpenJS Foundation that publishes node is no longer producing 32-bit builds as of v24. That means the last supported LTS version of node for armv7l is v22, which will go End-of-Life in May 2027. Therefore, the Reactor armv7l image is now deprecated and will only be produced until node v22 goes EOL, and I will not publish armv7l images beyond that date. If you are running an RPi 3 or earlier with Reactor, you are on this image, and will need to upgrade hardware to a 64-bit model and use the arm64 image. If you need help getting it done, ask in this category.
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[Solved] build 26150 - engine not starting
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@toggledbits I pulled the image (well, Watchtower did) and within minutes the whole system went offline. The log looks like it ends with 26143. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mkahsmgf/26qq82mw-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lqyfljfi/22f8on0t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lsb61rw8/24oenqi2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/rule-lrh58he0:S-1c00gfib-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1c00dylr-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1nam9w5u-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miuh2qqi/22ls4lql-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1vj8sdfc-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1qanz01x-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/24lq19p6-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mk0o8iox/23oy468y-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miscg2h3/rule-miscg2h3:S-22gmbq1c-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrfjke/238p0old-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-m7ccsso5/re-m7ccsso5-1r0myjxa-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/19nl9wq2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3xk9t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3vv5m-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/re-ln7j2nqp-22mx9lzd-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/22mx87c8-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-licneppy/1mzwe7ht-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ml3194ih/25jqt1j4-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrg7kf/227hshak-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13ua1p95-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13uagam7-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x4cbv-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x2fyl-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-lscjrws1/238p5c22-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lbwr0jvq/1xkczf03-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <Structure:NOTICE> Structure Structure#1 stopped [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <app:NOTICE> Closing APIs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: disconnecting from "192.168.1.23#82" (1001 service closing) [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.548Z <httpapi:NOTICE> HTTP API closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: server closed [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <httpapi:INFO> HTTP server closed. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <app:NOTICE> Stopping timers... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Shutdown complete, process ID 1 [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Closing logs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <default:null> Closing log I can SSH to the VM. Alas, I do not have the previous image for 26143 as I'm a little too quick sometimes on housekeeping.
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http request action & digest auth
tunnusT
I’m using the HTTP Request action in MSR and need to authenticate against an endpoint that uses HTTP Digest authentication. Now that endpoint was changed to use SHA-256 in digest auth, so I would like to know if MSR supports it, or is it limited to MD5-based digest auth?
Multi-System Reactor
Cloning actions in reactions does not work
tunnusT
With build 26140 (on Docker) I'm not able to clone any actions in reactions. Using Chrome if it has any relevance.
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Has ping command been removed?
tunnusT
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ReferenceError with Home Assistant data & build 26140
tunnusT
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Integrations and 'Loaded'
CatmanV2C
Thanks again for the recent release. One thing I wanted to ask about integrations and their 'loaded' condition: Is there something similar that applies to the entire controller? So if I have (for example) a helper in HA that is used to trigger an automation in MSR, is it possible to effectively exclude it until MSR is 'happy' that HA is stable and its values can be trusted? This, actually goes back to the issue I had. I've got a use case where a 30 second delay from triggering is a bit of a PITA (sustained for...) and was just wondering if there's a way of knowing that 'native' HA functions are working correctly. Probably asking wrong, or it's hideously obvious, but... TIA C
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Possible mismatch between binary_sensor in HA and MSR
CatmanV2C
Hi. First off this is an unsupported version of HS 2026.5.2 so happy to be told it's that. Currently running latest-26130-3d2a489a on a Debian Buster bare metal VM. I've been working on moving away from OpenLuup completely and up until now have been using some virtual switches t manage things like 'Is there anyone home' I have a binary sensor in HA that provides the same thing binary_sensor.someone_home which appears in MSR as hass>binary_sensor_someone_home HA shows on or off. MSR shows true or false All fine. The odd thing happened after an update of HA and a restart. From HA 13:07:04 it turned off 13:07:11 it turned on However that does not appear to have been reflected in MSR which turned all the heating and so on off as it is supposed to do, and I got all my notifications as I should. Here's a huge log section (sorry) as I wanted to show how MSR identifies that HA is up and running at 12:07:08 (Zulu) but triggers the 'There's no one here' at 12:07:17 some 6 seconds after HA updated to on. Checking in the interface MSR said the status was 'False' while HA stated 'On' rule-mkwk2fwa.dval:[{"id":1,"container":2,"value":3,"serial":92,"tss":93,"tsc":93},"rule-mkwk2fwa","rules",{"id":1,"serial":4,"triggers":5,"constraints":21,"expressions":24,"name":25,"react_set":26,"react_reset":88,"ruleset":91},16,{"type":6,"id":7,"op":8,"conditions":9,"editor_version":20},"group","trig","and",[10],{"id":11,"type":12,"data":13},"condmkwk2fwa","entity",{"entity":14,"attribute":15,"op":16,"value":17},"hass>person_rachel_matthews","x_hass.state","change",[18,19],null,"not_home",25351,{"type":6,"id":22,"op":8,"conditions":23},"cons",[],{},"Rachel is on the move",{"id":27,"actions":28,"rule":1,"editor_version":87,"set":61},"rule-mkwk2fwa:S",[29,35,62,83],{"id":30,"type":31,"data":32},"24kv27go","setvar",{"var":33,"value":34},"g_CurrentHour","${{int(strftime(\"%H\", time()))}}",{"id":36,"type":6,"actions":37,"constraints":46},"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv7qgg",[38],{"id":39,"type":12,"data":40},"24kv4y1v",{"entity":41,"action":42,"args":43},"hass>system","x_hass_system.call_service",{"service":44,"data":45},"notify.alexa_media","{\n\"message\":\"Good ${{g_Greeting}} Chris. , Rachel has left the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone and is in transit \",\n\"data\":{\"type\":\"announce\", \"method\":\"speak\"},\n\"target\":[\"media_player.everywhere\"]\n}",{"id":47,"name":48,"type":6,"op":8,"conditions":49,"editor_version":20},"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv7qgg-cons","Group Constraints Copy",[50,55],{"id":51,"type":52,"data":53},"cond24kv89zv","comment",{"comment":54},"Should speak only when I'm home",{"id":56,"type":12,"data":57},"cond24kv7qgh",{"entity":58,"attribute":59,"op":60,"value":61},"mqqt>catman_iphone","binary_sensor.state","=",true,{"id":63,"type":6,"actions":64,"constraints":72},"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv2lon",[65],{"id":66,"type":67,"data":68},"28xz6paf","notify",{"method":69,"message":70,"profile":71},"Telegram","Rachel has left the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone and is in transit","default",{"id":73,"name":48,"type":6,"op":8,"conditions":74,"editor_version":20},"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv2lon-cons",[75,79],{"id":76,"type":52,"data":77},"cond24kvlpae",{"comment":78},"Should telegram while I am away",{"id":80,"type":12,"data":81},"cond24kvkyz7",{"entity":58,"attribute":59,"op":60,"value":82},false,{"id":84,"type":52,"data":85},"24kv7hvk",{"comment":86},"Enter comment text",25314,{"id":89,"actions":90,"rule":1,"set":82},"rule-mkwk2fwa:R",[],"rs-l5sdq41x",2,1779017869959] rule-mkwk2fwa.json:{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa","container":"rules","value":{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa","serial":16,"triggers":{"type":"group","id":"trig","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"condmkwk2fwa","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"hass>person_rachel_matthews","attribute":"x_hass.state","op":"change","value":[null,"not_home"]}}],"editor_version":25351},"constraints":{"type":"group","id":"cons","op":"and","conditions":[]},"expressions":{},"name":"Rachel is on the move","react_set":{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S","actions":[{"id":"24kv27go","type":"setvar","data":{"var":"g_CurrentHour","value":"${{int(strftime(\"%H\", time()))}}"}},{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv7qgg","type":"group","actions":[{"id":"24kv4y1v","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"hass>system","action":"x_hass_system.call_service","args":{"service":"notify.alexa_media","data":"{\n\"message\":\"Good ${{g_Greeting}} Chris. , Rachel has left the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone and is in transit \",\n\"data\":{\"type\":\"announce\", \"method\":\"speak\"},\n\"target\":[\"media_player.everywhere\"]\n}"}}}],"constraints":{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv7qgg-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kv89zv","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Should speak only when I'm home"}},{"id":"cond24kv7qgh","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":true}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv2lon","type":"group","actions":[{"id":"28xz6paf","type":"notify","data":{"method":"Telegram","message":"Rachel has left the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone and is in transit","profile":"default"}}],"constraints":{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:S-24kv2lon-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kvlpae","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Should telegram while I am away"}},{"id":"cond24kvkyz7","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":false}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"24kv7hvk","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Enter comment text"}}],"rule":"rule-mkwk2fwa","editor_version":25314,"set":true},"react_reset":{"id":"rule-mkwk2fwa:R","actions":[],"rule":"rule-mkwk2fwa","set":false},"ruleset":"rs-l5sdq41x"},"serial":2,"tss":1779017869959,"tsc":1779017869959} rule-mkwlg11o.dval:[{"id":1,"container":2,"value":3,"serial":92,"tss":93,"tsc":93},"rule-mkwlg11o","rules",{"id":1,"serial":4,"triggers":5,"constraints":20,"expressions":23,"name":24,"react_set":25,"react_reset":88,"ruleset":91},5,{"type":6,"id":7,"op":8,"conditions":9,"editor_version":19},"group","trig","and",[10],{"id":11,"type":12,"data":13},"condmkwk2fwa","entity",{"entity":14,"attribute":15,"op":16,"value":17},"hass>person_rachel_matthews","x_hass.state","change",[18],"not_home",25351,{"type":6,"id":21,"op":8,"conditions":22},"cons",[],{},"Rachel has arrived",{"id":26,"actions":27,"rule":1,"editor_version":87,"set":65},"rule-mkwlg11o:S",[28,33,39,66,83],{"id":29,"type":30,"data":31},"24kvboht","script",{"expr":32},"g_rachel_last_area = getEntity(\"hass>person_rachel_matthews\").attributes['x_hass'].state",{"id":34,"type":35,"data":36},"24kvbohu","setvar",{"var":37,"value":38},"g_CurrentHour","${{int(strftime(\"%H\", time()))}}",{"id":40,"type":6,"actions":41,"constraints":50},"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohv",[42],{"id":43,"type":12,"data":44},"24kvbohw",{"entity":45,"action":46,"args":47},"hass>system","x_hass_system.call_service",{"service":48,"data":49},"notify.alexa_media","{\n\"message\":\"Good ${{g_Greeting}} Chris. , Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.\",\n\"data\":{\"type\":\"announce\", \"method\":\"speak\"},\n\"target\":[\"media_player.everywhere\"]\n}",{"id":51,"name":52,"type":6,"op":8,"conditions":53,"editor_version":19},"24kvbohv-cons","Group Constraints Copy",[54,59],{"id":55,"type":56,"data":57},"cond24kv89zv","comment",{"comment":58},"Should speak only when I'm home",{"id":60,"type":12,"data":61},"cond24kv7qgh",{"entity":62,"attribute":63,"op":64,"value":65},"mqqt>catman_iphone","binary_sensor.state","=",true,{"id":67,"type":6,"actions":68,"constraints":76},"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohx",[69],{"id":70,"type":71,"data":72},"24kvbohy","notify",{"method":73,"message":74,"profile":75},"Telegram","Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.","default",{"id":77,"name":52,"type":6,"op":8,"conditions":78,"editor_version":19},"24kvbohx-cons",[79],{"id":80,"type":12,"data":81},"cond24kvmzfp",{"entity":62,"attribute":63,"op":64,"value":82},false,{"id":84,"type":56,"data":85},"24kvbohz",{"comment":86},"Enter comment text",25314,{"id":89,"actions":90,"rule":1,"set":82},"rule-mkwlg11o:R",[],"rs-l5sdq41x",1,1770023368433] rule-mkwlg11o.json:{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o","container":"rules","value":{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o","serial":5,"triggers":{"type":"group","id":"trig","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"condmkwk2fwa","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"hass>person_rachel_matthews","attribute":"x_hass.state","op":"change","value":["not_home"]}}],"editor_version":25351},"constraints":{"type":"group","id":"cons","op":"and","conditions":[]},"expressions":{},"name":"Rachel has arrived","react_set":{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:S","actions":[{"id":"24kvboht","type":"script","data":{"expr":"g_rachel_last_area = getEntity(\"hass>person_rachel_matthews\").attributes['x_hass'].state"}},{"id":"24kvbohu","type":"setvar","data":{"var":"g_CurrentHour","value":"${{int(strftime(\"%H\", time()))}}"}},{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohv","type":"group","actions":[{"id":"24kvbohw","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"hass>system","action":"x_hass_system.call_service","args":{"service":"notify.alexa_media","data":"{\n\"message\":\"Good ${{g_Greeting}} Chris. , Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.\",\n\"data\":{\"type\":\"announce\", \"method\":\"speak\"},\n\"target\":[\"media_player.everywhere\"]\n}"}}}],"constraints":{"id":"24kvbohv-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kv89zv","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Should speak only when I'm home"}},{"id":"cond24kv7qgh","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":true}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:S-rule-mkwlg11o-24kvbohx","type":"group","actions":[{"id":"24kvbohy","type":"notify","data":{"method":"Telegram","message":"Rachel has arrived in the ${{g_rachel_last_area}} zone.","profile":"default"}}],"constraints":{"id":"24kvbohx-cons","name":"Group Constraints Copy","type":"group","op":"and","conditions":[{"id":"cond24kvmzfp","type":"entity","data":{"entity":"mqqt>catman_iphone","attribute":"binary_sensor.state","op":"=","value":false}}],"editor_version":25351}},{"id":"24kvbohz","type":"comment","data":{"comment":"Enter comment text"}}],"rule":"rule-mkwlg11o","editor_version":25314,"set":true},"react_reset":{"id":"rule-mkwlg11o:R","actions":[],"rule":"rule-mkwlg11o","set":false},"ruleset":"rs-l5sdq41x"},"serial":1,"tss":1770023368433,"tsc":1770023368433} catman@openluup:~/reactor/storage/rules$ exit logout Connection to 192.168.70.249 closed. catman@ChrisMBP2021 ~ % ./NotVera ** WARNING: connection is not using a post-quantum key exchange algorithm. ** This session may be vulnerable to "store now, decrypt later" attacks. ** The server may need to be upgraded. See https://openssh.com/pq.html Linux openluup 4.19.0-20-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.19.235-1 (2022-03-17) x86_64 The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Mon May 18 12:13:38 2026 from 192.168.70.69 cdcatman@openluup:~$ cd reactor/lo locales/ logs/ catman@openluup:~$ cd reactor/logs/ catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ ls console.log hass_config.json hass_services-2025-11-1.json hass_services-2026-1-0.json hass_services-2026-5-2.json reactor.log reactor.log.4 vera-user_data-initial.json device_32 hass_device_registry.json hass_services-2025-11-2.json hass_services-2026-1-1.json hass_services.json reactor.log.1 reactor.log.5 e hass_entity_registry.json hass_services-2025-11-3.json hass_services-2026-4-2.json hass_sources.json reactor.log.2 unhandled.json hass_area_registry.json hass_integrations.json hass_services-2025-7-2.json hass_services-2026-4-4.json hass_states.json reactor.log.3 vera-status-initial.json catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ less reactor.log catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ tail reactor.log [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:20:08.296Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:03.391Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:08.729Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:21:08.734Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"] [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:03.501Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:08.614Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:22:08.624Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"] [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:03.590Z <httpapi:INFO> httpapi#1 API request from ::ffff:192.168.70.249: GET /api/v1/netstatus [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:08.503Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn re-evaluating local variable L_Cinema_Light_Level for dependency notification from ValueSensor#hass>sensor_cinema_multi_sensor_illuminance [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:23:08.506Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-mova0cpn requesting eval for changed dependent locals Array(1) ["L_Cinema_Light_Level"] catman@openluup:~/reactor/logs$ less reactor.log [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.946Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol+ (rule-ml9yjy9z in Living Room) starting rule state evaluation; because predicate-state-changed Predicate#rule-ml9yjy9z/trig [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.947Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol+ (rule-ml9yjy9z in Living Room) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to 'SET' [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.961Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol- (rule-ml9ylxw3 in Living Room) starting rule state evaluation; because predicate-state-changed Predicate#rule-ml9ylxw3/trig [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.962Z <Rule:INFO> Cyrus Stream Vol- (rule-ml9ylxw3 in Living Room) evaluated; rule state transition from RESET to 'SET' [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.995Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET>" (rule-l680lif2:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.996Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "House Mode is Home<RESET>" (rule-l5sdqazh:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.997Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET>" (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.997Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET>" (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:17.998Z <Engine:INFO> Enqueueing "Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET>" (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l680lif2:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode with { } by reaction Heating Control Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l680lif2:R) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.000Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode with { } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.001Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass service homeassistant.turn_off target data is { } (empty), assuming default entity target [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.001Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for power_switch.off on Entity#hass>input_boolean_heating_mode action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { }, "domain": "homeassistant", "service": "turn_off", "target": { "entity_id": "input_boolean.heating_mode" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.017Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction House Mode is Home<RESET> (rule-l5sdqazh:R) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.018Z <Engine:INFO> House Mode is Home<RESET> all actions completed. [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.074Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET> (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.076Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Play / Pause<SET> (rule-ml9y0xqo:S) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.076Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=\" }" } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.077Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "BfcG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDRP3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wb///cG9wZ8A+ABAeABDQv3BvcGfAN8A/cG9wY=" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.090Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET> (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.091Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Vol+<SET> (rule-ml9yjy9z:S) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.092Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=\" }" } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.092Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "BXsDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBBfcG9wZ7A+ABAQf//3sDewP3BkABAXsD4AUBD/cG9wZ7A3sDewN7A3sDewM=" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.093Z <Engine:NOTICE> Starting reaction Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET> (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.093Z <Engine:INFO> Engine#1 perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==\" }" } by reaction Cyrus Stream Vol-<SET> (rule-ml9ylxw3:S) step 1 [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.094Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass perform x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send with { "service": "text.set_value", "data": "{ \"value\": \"AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==\" }" } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.111Z <HassController:INFO> HassController#hass: sending payload for x_hass.call_service on Entity#hass>text_living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send action: { "type": "call_service", "service_data": { "value": "AXoD4AEBA/EGegPgBQEF8QbxBnoDgAFACQP//3oD4AEBQBHgBQEP8QbxBnoDegN6A3oD8QZ6Aw==" }, "domain": "text", "service": "set_value", "target": { "entity_id": "text.living_room_remote_ir_code_to_send" } } [latest-26130]2026-05-19T12:07:18.113Z <Rule:INFO> Rule#rule-l5sdqazh reaction rule-l5sdqazh:R completed This is hardly the end of the world as HA restarting is rare and I simply hit refresh on the entity in MSR but is this some kind of race condition or something that needs addressing? 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  • cw-kidC Offline
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    wrote on last edited by cw-kid
    #55

    Just testing some different online API's see what's possible.

    If your in the UK the National Grid have a Carbon Intensity online API here. This is for my region / area.

    The data also breaks down by percent the types of generation used, Wind, Solar, Nuclear, Coal etc but not added that as yet.

    Vera:

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    Home Remote:

    Need to play about with the tiles and add an icon and reposition some items yet.

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      #56

      I've tried the Vera Multi-String plugin, it looks just like the type of plugin I was needing and looking for.

      You can have up to five variables on a device.

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      You can then have your rule in MSR send the data to each variable etc.

      The Multi-String plugin devices data is also outputted in the Vera SDATA stream so these device will also work with the Home Remote dashboard app.

      { "name": "Covid-19 Stats", "altid": "", "id": 133, "category": 0, "subcategory": -1, "room": 0, "parent": 0, "variablename1": "Confirmed", "variable1": "4329180", "variablename2": "Recovered", "variable2": "3787312", "variablename3": "Critical", "variable3": "615", "variablename4": "Deaths", "variable4": "126573", "variablename5": "", "variable5": "", "options": "", "configured": "0" },
      

      So I recommend using the Multi-String plugin rather than trying to create your own modified Generic IO devices as I was doing.

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          #58

          @cw-kid if one wanted to set all 5 parameter values at the same time, using an HTTP call to Vera, could that be done? (If so, I'd need to see a working example of a GET Request that does this.) Or would I have to issue 5 distinct calls to set those variables?

          P.S. I see from this old post that I'm not the first one to wonder.

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            It’s so trivial to make a custom request handler in Luup... really it’s one of its best feature. So, in this case, indeed, “roll your own” and simply set the required variables per the content of the request.

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              @cw-kid if one wanted to set all 5 parameter values at the same time, using an HTTP call to Vera, could that be done? (If so, I'd need to see a working example of a GET Request that does this.) Or would I have to issue 5 distinct calls to set those variables?

              P.S. I see from this old post that I'm not the first one to wonder.

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              @librasun

              I am doing a different http request to Vera to set each variable not one request that set them all.

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                @librasun

                I am doing a different http request to Vera to set each variable not one request that set them all.

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                #61

                @cw-kid said in Replacing SiteSensor Plugin (Vera) with MSR:

                @librasun

                I am doing a different http request to Vera to set each variable not one request that set them all.

                Yeah, something tells me setting more than one at a time isn't possible, anyway. Just thought I'd ask the pros. 🙂 Thanks!

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                • LibraSunL LibraSun

                  You can take not-terribly-human-readable blobs like that over to a JSON Pretty Print website (such as https://jsonformatter.org/json-pretty-print), paste it in and hit the "Outline" button, to see how the data looks in its underlying structure.
                  json_pretty_print.png This allows you to quickly pinpoint the blob.key.subkey.data item you need to pull from in MSR.

                  Traversing the tree from upper-left to lower-right, I see the first instance of "forcecast" lives inside an overall object {} (I'm naming response), then the first item (i.e. element 0) of an array [] within data, then inside another array within another key called data, then a key called intensity, and finally the key you want, forecast, yielding:
                  response.data[0].data[0].intensity.forecast

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                  @librasun Reviving this a bit because this right here is where I think I'm failing spectacularly.

                  I'm working with the Ambient API for my weather station via Site Sensor in Vera. This thread has been fantastic at guiding me toward migrating the Site Sensor into MSR. Here's where I'm falling down:

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                  The GET returns expected results. However, I believe I've messed up in creating the expressions for temp, wind speed, wind gust, and solar radiation.

                  I've entered response[1].lastData.tempf into the ambient_temp field and it returns Last value:(error) Invalid reference to member 1 of null. This is taken right from the Site Sensor recipe where it's working wonderfully so I know I'm probably close. I know the expression logic in MSR is slightly different than that of the Vera Reactor plugin - combined with my almost total befuddlement of proper expressions go isn't helping 🙂

                  Appreciate any guidance!

                  *Hubitat C-7 2.5.0.159
                  *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                  *HAOS
                  Core 2026.7.2
                  w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                  FW: v1.1
                  SDK: v7.23.1

                  *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                  MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
                  MQTTController: 25139
                  ZWave Controller: 25139

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                    #63

                    should that be response[0].lastData.tempinf

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                      I thought the same but, after editing, it returned the same error just with ...member 0 of null instead.

                      *Hubitat C-7 2.5.0.159
                      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                      *HAOS
                      Core 2026.7.2
                      w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                      FW: v1.1
                      SDK: v7.23.1

                      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                      MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
                      MQTTController: 25139
                      ZWave Controller: 25139

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                      • ElcidE Elcid

                        should that be response[0].lastData.tempinf

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                        @elcid For full transparency, here's how the ruleset is configured (and it's pulling in expected results:

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                        It's only the latter half that's making me stumble.

                        *Hubitat C-7 2.5.0.159
                        *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                        *HAOS
                        Core 2026.7.2
                        w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                        FW: v1.1
                        SDK: v7.23.1

                        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                        MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
                        MQTTController: 25139
                        ZWave Controller: 25139

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                          #66

                          so to set temp expression should be ambient_api[0].lastData.tempinf

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                              so to set temp expression should be ambient_api[0].lastData.tempinf

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                              @elcid Whadya know, that did the trick. Interesting to a noob like me how the original Site Sensor in Vera uses response[1].lastData.tempif and that works just fine.

                              *Hubitat C-7 2.5.0.159
                              *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                              *HAOS
                              Core 2026.7.2
                              w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                              FW: v1.1
                              SDK: v7.23.1

                              *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                              MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
                              MQTTController: 25139
                              ZWave Controller: 25139

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                                @toggledbits QQ on the OWM built-in: is there a means by which to render it inactive until I need to call it? The way I work my Site Sensors is the one for OWM stays deactivated until the one for Ambient throws null at which point the OWM turns on, carrying the load until Ambient throws real data back out there again (at which time OWM shuts back off.)

                                This saves wasted calls to the API for OWM.

                                *Hubitat C-7 2.5.0.159
                                *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                                *HAOS
                                Core 2026.7.2
                                w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                                FW: v1.1
                                SDK: v7.23.1

                                *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                                MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
                                MQTTController: 25139
                                ZWave Controller: 25139

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                                  @toggledbits QQ on the OWM built-in: is there a means by which to render it inactive until I need to call it? The way I work my Site Sensors is the one for OWM stays deactivated until the one for Ambient throws null at which point the OWM turns on, carrying the load until Ambient throws real data back out there again (at which time OWM shuts back off.)

                                  This saves wasted calls to the API for OWM.

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                                  @gwp1 Put a constraint for the OWM rule, something like "ambient == null"?

                                  Using MSR on Docker (Synology NAS), having InfluxDB, Grafana & Home Assistant, Zigbee2MQTT & ZWA-2

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                                    @elcid Whadya know, that did the trick. Interesting to a noob like me how the original Site Sensor in Vera uses response[1].lastData.tempif and that works just fine.

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                                    @gwp1 vera uses lua, which arrays count from 1
                                    MSR uses javascript which counts from 0

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                                    • tunnusT tunnus

                                      @gwp1 Put a constraint for the OWM rule, something like "ambient == null"?

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                                      @tunnus That would work if I were creating the OWM like I've created the Ambient expressions and ruleset. But @toggledbits has OWM built-in, controlled by reactor.yaml config file. The frequency of calls to the API is configured there in minutes and it creates an entity in the Entities list. As I understand it, the entity is always refreshed data-wise by the frequency of the calls set in reactor.yaml.

                                      *Hubitat C-7 2.5.0.159
                                      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                                      *HAOS
                                      Core 2026.7.2
                                      w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                                      FW: v1.1
                                      SDK: v7.23.1

                                      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                                      MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
                                      MQTTController: 25139
                                      ZWave Controller: 25139

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                                        @toggledbits QQ on the OWM built-in: is there a means by which to render it inactive until I need to call it? The way I work my Site Sensors is the one for OWM stays deactivated until the one for Ambient throws null at which point the OWM turns on, carrying the load until Ambient throws real data back out there again (at which time OWM shuts back off.)

                                        This saves wasted calls to the API for OWM.

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                                        @gwp1 said in Replacing SiteSensor Plugin (Vera) with MSR:

                                        @toggledbits QQ on the OWM built-in: is there a means by which to render it inactive until I need to call it?

                                        No. Controllers can only be switched on and off via configuration.

                                        Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                          @tunnus That would work if I were creating the OWM like I've created the Ambient expressions and ruleset. But @toggledbits has OWM built-in, controlled by reactor.yaml config file. The frequency of calls to the API is configured there in minutes and it creates an entity in the Entities list. As I understand it, the entity is always refreshed data-wise by the frequency of the calls set in reactor.yaml.

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                                          @gwp1I got this all working, Ambient's API and OWM's API all dumping to global expressions.

                                          ambient_api
                                          ambient_temp
                                          ambient_windspeed
                                          ambient_windgust
                                          ambient_solarradiation

                                          openwxmap_api
                                          openwxmap_temp
                                          openwxmap_windspeed
                                          openwxmap_windgust

                                          Everything is glorious. I've planned for when the Ambient API drops (they were having big ol' issues today and into the evening now) it returns a NULL and I flip my HVAC control over to OWM API.

                                          Except... Reactor gets very angry.

                                          angry reactor.png

                                          Now it's entirely possible this is on me - so let's review:
                                          HVAC has three master rulesets, Cooling, Heating, and Neutral. You'll notice I've broken out the rules into Ambient vs OWM.

                                          ambient cooling master.png

                                          The triggers for OWM include a "when Ambient returns NULL" clause, if you will.

                                          These are my two "Site Sensors" in MSR:

                                          ambient site sensor.png OWM site sensor.png

                                          This, too, works as intended with OWM sitting idle until Ambient goes "null" and then OWM starts making API calls and populating the global expressions with data.

                                          In real world usage today/this evening the switch happens flawlessly. Where the angry Reactor comes in is after the switch happens. My confusion is around why any ruleset referencing the Ambient data (via global expressions) as a trigger suddenly has all the compile errors, throttling because update rates exceed 60/minute, etc. My expectation is that the "null" will blank the triggers in the ruleset and, since the ruleset is not triggered, it will go dormant until triggered again.

                                          Where have I lost my way?

                                          *Hubitat C-7 2.5.0.159
                                          *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                                          *HAOS
                                          Core 2026.7.2
                                          w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                                          FW: v1.1
                                          SDK: v7.23.1

                                          *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                                          MSR: latest-26193-8dd8f854
                                          MQTTController: 25139
                                          ZWave Controller: 25139

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