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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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Actionable notification question

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    tamorgen
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    Good morning,
    I'm running Home Assistant with MSR, and I do my automation strictly within MSR. I have some basic notifications set up, for instance, when my dishwasher has completed it's cycle, it'll send my iPhone a push notification via the x_haas.system.call_service --> notify.mobile_iphone action.

    I saw in the Home Assistant documentation that you can push Actionable Notifications. The example they use if there is motion detection, but no one is home, you can sound an alarm or silence an alarm.

    Can this be done from MSR and not directly in Home Assistant? I'd like to do something more of an acknowledgement, like if a door or window is left open, to have a way to get notified, but acknowledge that it is open, and not send any more notifications. If not acknowledged, the notification will continue every 5 or 10 minutes until the door or window is closed, or the notification is acknowledged. This would be useful in situations where I may have a slider door open for some fresh air, so it was deliberate, versus an entry door that didn't latch when entering or leaving the house.

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      Pabla
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      I haven't found a way to create actionable notifications in MSR because HA doesn't expose the mobile_app_notification_action event. The way I do it instead is create the actionable notification action in HA then have MSR trigger it.

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        I haven't found a way to create actionable notifications in MSR because HA doesn't expose the mobile_app_notification_action event. The way I do it instead is create the actionable notification action in HA then have MSR trigger it.

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        @Pabla I like this.

        I do something similar with my LIFX bulbs. For some yet-to-be-discovered reason two of them turn on during the day. My Hubitat integration were they live does not see it... but my HA integration does. So I created a ruleset in MSR that watches the HA version of the lights and fires an HA automation that turns them off.

        More than one way to get to the circus!

        *Hubitat C-7 2.5.1.142
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        *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
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          I haven't found a way to create actionable notifications in MSR because HA doesn't expose the mobile_app_notification_action event. The way I do it instead is create the actionable notification action in HA then have MSR trigger it.

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          toggledbits
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          #4

          @Pabla said in Actionable notification question:

          I haven't found a way to create actionable notifications in MSR because HA doesn't expose the mobile_app_notification_action event.

          I'm not exactly sure what you mean or intend here, but I just ran a quick test using the service call HA provides in their documentation for Actionable Notifications (linked in the head post), and Reactor does see the mobile_app_notification_action event when a button is pressed on the mobile app notification (Android tested). Here's the service call I made:

          service: notify.mobile_app_sm_g996u
          data:
            message: "Something happened at home!"
            data:
              actions:
                - action: "ALARM"
                  title: "Sound Alarm"
                  icon: "sfsymbols:bell"
                - action: "SILENCE"
                  title: "Silence Alarm"
                  icon: "sfsymbols:bell.slash"
          

          When the Sound Alarm button on the notifications is pressed, Reactor gets this event:

          {
              "type": "event",
              "event": {
                  "event_type": "mobile_app_notification_action",
                  "data": {
                      "action_2_title": "Silence Alarm",
                      "webhook_id": "2f7fba8991b3bfac3a5fb46ace19cd6d616becb829aecb5a8ae2a2ece759052f",
                      "message": "Something happened at home!",
                      "action_1_title": "Sound Alarm",
                      "action_1_key": "ALARM",
                      "action_2_key": "SILENCE",
                      "server_id": "1",
                      "action": "ALARM",
                      "device_id": "c8458cf66b182e07"
                  },
                  "origin": "REMOTE",
                  "time_fired": "2024-01-23T00:59:00.722438+00:00",
                  "context": {
                      "id": "01HMSX7RQJDJYFFQPJFWX8HEG8",
                      "parent_id": null,
                      "user_id": "459ddf6f84b14de98f4c65e2d2da2dc6"
                  }
              },
              "id": 1705971523928
          }
          

          So in Reactor, I can configure an event reaction (in reactor.yaml for a HassController instance):

            config:  # this line is for alignment only
              event_targets:
               notification_sound_alarm:
                  capabilities:
                  - binary_sensor
                  events:
                  - event:
                      event_type: mobile_app_notification_action
                      data:
                        device_id: "c8458cf66b182e07"
                        action: "ALARM"
                    response:
                      "binary_sensor.state":
                        expr: "! entity.attributes.binary_sensor.state"
          

          This trivial event handler just toggles the binary_sensor.state attribute in the associated virtual device it creates (having ID notification_sound_alarm), every time the event is received.

          Works a treat. Really cool actually. Actionable Notifications... TIL.

          Ref to docs for creating event handlers: https://reactor.toggledbits.com/docs/HassController/#handling-home-assistant-events

          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            @Pabla said in Actionable notification question:

            I haven't found a way to create actionable notifications in MSR because HA doesn't expose the mobile_app_notification_action event.

            I'm not exactly sure what you mean or intend here, but I just ran a quick test using the service call HA provides in their documentation for Actionable Notifications (linked in the head post), and Reactor does see the mobile_app_notification_action event when a button is pressed on the mobile app notification (Android tested). Here's the service call I made:

            service: notify.mobile_app_sm_g996u
            data:
              message: "Something happened at home!"
              data:
                actions:
                  - action: "ALARM"
                    title: "Sound Alarm"
                    icon: "sfsymbols:bell"
                  - action: "SILENCE"
                    title: "Silence Alarm"
                    icon: "sfsymbols:bell.slash"
            

            When the Sound Alarm button on the notifications is pressed, Reactor gets this event:

            {
                "type": "event",
                "event": {
                    "event_type": "mobile_app_notification_action",
                    "data": {
                        "action_2_title": "Silence Alarm",
                        "webhook_id": "2f7fba8991b3bfac3a5fb46ace19cd6d616becb829aecb5a8ae2a2ece759052f",
                        "message": "Something happened at home!",
                        "action_1_title": "Sound Alarm",
                        "action_1_key": "ALARM",
                        "action_2_key": "SILENCE",
                        "server_id": "1",
                        "action": "ALARM",
                        "device_id": "c8458cf66b182e07"
                    },
                    "origin": "REMOTE",
                    "time_fired": "2024-01-23T00:59:00.722438+00:00",
                    "context": {
                        "id": "01HMSX7RQJDJYFFQPJFWX8HEG8",
                        "parent_id": null,
                        "user_id": "459ddf6f84b14de98f4c65e2d2da2dc6"
                    }
                },
                "id": 1705971523928
            }
            

            So in Reactor, I can configure an event reaction (in reactor.yaml for a HassController instance):

              config:  # this line is for alignment only
                event_targets:
                 notification_sound_alarm:
                    capabilities:
                    - binary_sensor
                    events:
                    - event:
                        event_type: mobile_app_notification_action
                        data:
                          device_id: "c8458cf66b182e07"
                          action: "ALARM"
                      response:
                        "binary_sensor.state":
                          expr: "! entity.attributes.binary_sensor.state"
            

            This trivial event handler just toggles the binary_sensor.state attribute in the associated virtual device it creates (having ID notification_sound_alarm), every time the event is received.

            Works a treat. Really cool actually. Actionable Notifications... TIL.

            Ref to docs for creating event handlers: https://reactor.toggledbits.com/docs/HassController/#handling-home-assistant-events

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            Pabla
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            #5

            @toggledbits Every time I think I have Reactor figured out I always end up learning something new! Will defs be playing with this

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            • toggledbitsT toggledbits

              @Pabla said in Actionable notification question:

              I haven't found a way to create actionable notifications in MSR because HA doesn't expose the mobile_app_notification_action event.

              I'm not exactly sure what you mean or intend here, but I just ran a quick test using the service call HA provides in their documentation for Actionable Notifications (linked in the head post), and Reactor does see the mobile_app_notification_action event when a button is pressed on the mobile app notification (Android tested). Here's the service call I made:

              service: notify.mobile_app_sm_g996u
              data:
                message: "Something happened at home!"
                data:
                  actions:
                    - action: "ALARM"
                      title: "Sound Alarm"
                      icon: "sfsymbols:bell"
                    - action: "SILENCE"
                      title: "Silence Alarm"
                      icon: "sfsymbols:bell.slash"
              

              When the Sound Alarm button on the notifications is pressed, Reactor gets this event:

              {
                  "type": "event",
                  "event": {
                      "event_type": "mobile_app_notification_action",
                      "data": {
                          "action_2_title": "Silence Alarm",
                          "webhook_id": "2f7fba8991b3bfac3a5fb46ace19cd6d616becb829aecb5a8ae2a2ece759052f",
                          "message": "Something happened at home!",
                          "action_1_title": "Sound Alarm",
                          "action_1_key": "ALARM",
                          "action_2_key": "SILENCE",
                          "server_id": "1",
                          "action": "ALARM",
                          "device_id": "c8458cf66b182e07"
                      },
                      "origin": "REMOTE",
                      "time_fired": "2024-01-23T00:59:00.722438+00:00",
                      "context": {
                          "id": "01HMSX7RQJDJYFFQPJFWX8HEG8",
                          "parent_id": null,
                          "user_id": "459ddf6f84b14de98f4c65e2d2da2dc6"
                      }
                  },
                  "id": 1705971523928
              }
              

              So in Reactor, I can configure an event reaction (in reactor.yaml for a HassController instance):

                config:  # this line is for alignment only
                  event_targets:
                   notification_sound_alarm:
                      capabilities:
                      - binary_sensor
                      events:
                      - event:
                          event_type: mobile_app_notification_action
                          data:
                            device_id: "c8458cf66b182e07"
                            action: "ALARM"
                        response:
                          "binary_sensor.state":
                            expr: "! entity.attributes.binary_sensor.state"
              

              This trivial event handler just toggles the binary_sensor.state attribute in the associated virtual device it creates (having ID notification_sound_alarm), every time the event is received.

              Works a treat. Really cool actually. Actionable Notifications... TIL.

              Ref to docs for creating event handlers: https://reactor.toggledbits.com/docs/HassController/#handling-home-assistant-events

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              tamorgen
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @toggledbits, it's going to take soem time to wrap my head around everything you posted, but it's great to know it's possible!

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                toggledbits
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                #7

                I realize the documentation on configuring event handlers isn't great. I've made some updates and will post them later today, but I still feel it needs work. Feel free to ask questions and make suggestions; then I'll know what holes to fill.

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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