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How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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[Reactor] Bug when sending MQTT boolean payloads
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Difficulty defining repeating annual period
R
I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
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Need help with sequence
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Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
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Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
CatmanV2C
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Reset a delay
CatmanV2C
I'm sure this has been asked, and answered, but damned if I can figure it out Use case: I have a rear garden with lights. A door from the kitchen into the garden and a door from the garage. Currently if I open the kitchen door the lights come on (yay) and a 3 minute delay starts. After 3 minutes, no matter what else happens, the lights go off (Boo! But also yay!) What I would like is for the 3 minute delay until the lights go off to start from the latest door open event. That is, if I'm going from kitchen to garage, and back again, the lights stay on until there's three minutes of no activity. I've tried 'hacking' with a virtual switch, but can't seem to stop the delay. Any pointers? TIA C
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Reactor Loading Screen Safari
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Constraints states visually do not match actual
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    LibraSun
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    #26

    I'm enjoying this thread as it develops, but will stand by until someone wraps MSR into a Docker package that I can install/run on my Docker-enabled Synology NAS.

    Like everyone else, "I'm at full candy corn" (so the Stewie Griffith saying goes) on this project and can't wait to give it a whirl!

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    • toggledbitsT toggledbits

      On my list of hubs/controllers to tackle next are Homey and OpenHAB, but I am also interested in MQTT, so I'm hearing a bump in priority coming, at least for investigation.

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      #27

      @toggledbits

      Definitely a vote for MQTT here though it does require setup on both MSR and the "children" controllers, it reduces the I/O traffic dramatically compared to the polling approaches. In my personal case, since I am a bit bored like @therealdb, and don't have much to add or improve to my home automation, my interest is on improving efficiencies. I find satisfaction even when decreasing CPU utilization by decimal points.

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        #28

        I realise that I have to re-think my rules from Vera since I can only have one set of reaction to a rule. In Vera you could have different reaction to different rules within one sensor. I have to look at Rule Set's

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          toggledbits
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          #29

          The importer will automatically split out any group that has activities (from Vera) to a Rule in MSR, and leave a "rule" condition in the parent to preserve the logic. I think it's wayyyy more convenient, but I've also had a few months of working on it to get used to it.

          You can also create global reactions that can be run from any other reaction.

          Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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            Matohl
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            #30

            I realise that but I was so into the "old" Reactor I had to re-think a little bit. I want to build my logic without importing the old mistakes from the beginning. Suggestion for improvement: To set dimming level you have yellow background and white text which is very difficult to read, at least for my eyes 🙂
            Edit: Wrong I was using the app "Dark Reader" on my RPi witch confused the colours. Turning it off it is black on yellow

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              toggledbits
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              #31

              FYI, the yellow indicator means it's going to let you do what you are asking, but the value you are giving is out of range. Dimming values in MSR are real numbers between 0 and 1 inclusive.

              Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                #32

                Release 21050 just published; use the "Download" button in the bug tracker.

                Upgrade instructions

                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                  #33

                  how does one obtain creds to the MantisBT?

                  *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                  *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                  *HAOS
                  Core 2026.1.1
                  w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                  FW: v1.1
                  SDK: v7.23.1

                  *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                  MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                  MQTTController: 25139
                  ZWave Controller: 25139

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                    #34

                    Send me a PM with your email address and full name; I'll set up your account and the site will email you.

                    Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                      Send me a PM with your email address and full name; I'll set up your account and the site will email you.

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                      @toggledbits Done. Thanks!

                      *Hubitat C-7 2.4.3.177
                      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

                      *HAOS
                      Core 2026.1.1
                      w/ HA Connect ZWA-2
                      FW: v1.1
                      SDK: v7.23.1

                      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
                      MSR: latest-26011-c621bbc7
                      MQTTController: 25139
                      ZWave Controller: 25139

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                      • rafale77R rafale77

                        @toggledbits

                        Definitely a vote for MQTT here though it does require setup on both MSR and the "children" controllers, it reduces the I/O traffic dramatically compared to the polling approaches. In my personal case, since I am a bit bored like @therealdb, and don't have much to add or improve to my home automation, my interest is on improving efficiencies. I find satisfaction even when decreasing CPU utilization by decimal points.

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                        #36

                        Since we’re at it, I think the mqtt gateway should support announcements, lwt and so on.

                        This will make very easy to integrate things like Shelly, tasmota, and so on.

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                        On a mission to automate everything.

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                            I had an issue with an account on the bug tracker (already?) so I locked it down. PM me your full name and email address and I'll set up your account. It will email you an access link.

                            Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                              Got my instance going with Home Assistant. I am finding it brilliant as it is connecting to it through websocket. I am seeing the potential now to have reactor act as a bridge, detecting events happening on Home Assistant and forwarding them to openLuup and vice versa, eliminating the need for configuring additional scenes on openLuup and automation on home assistant!

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                                I'm getting ready to assemble today's build (21051). I think I have everything urgent covered, with some PRs left open for confirmation. There's one more I want to try to address before I roll it up and out for the day.

                                This build also includes:

                                • Fix for condition trigger repeating when a sustained-for delay applies (#30);
                                • Fix an error on import (#29);
                                • Fix an error on Hass caused by an unhandled attribute (#27);
                                • New units configuration value "uk" (#31), as well as more granular control over units (if imperial, metric, or uk isn't enough, you can now set units by use class; per device/attribute is planned and part of the architecture as well);
                                • Fix elevation computation problem in sunrise/set data (mangles angles if elev configured <> 0) (#34);
                                • Now with working SMTP, Prowl, Pushover and Syslog notifications;
                                • Notification forwarding for Hubitat (see docs for configuration details);
                                • many documentation fixes and upgrades.

                                Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                  toggledbits
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                                  #41

                                  And 21051 is now available.

                                  Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                    rafale77
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                                    #42

                                    Updated and now added openLuup. Doesn't seem to be a problem but why do openLuup scenes and room entities keep flashing green even without seemingly any updates?

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                                      toggledbits
                                      wrote on last edited by toggledbits
                                      #43

                                      I will look into that!


                                      Edit: It looks like the jobs object is dropped on Vera Luup when it's empty, but is always present on openLuup. Since the comparison to see if a value changes doesn't "go deep" on objects and arrays, it sees two empty objects as different every time they are presented (using JS's comparison operator), and the scene is being presented on each update even though outwardly there don't appear to be any changes. So two small diffs between Vera Luup and openLuup contributing.

                                      I'm just going to suppress anything that isn't a primitive and leave it at that. Deep inspection of objects and arrays isn't likely to be valuable or necessary.

                                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                                      • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                                        I'm getting ready to assemble today's build (21051). I think I have everything urgent covered, with some PRs left open for confirmation. There's one more I want to try to address before I roll it up and out for the day.

                                        This build also includes:

                                        • Fix for condition trigger repeating when a sustained-for delay applies (#30);
                                        • Fix an error on import (#29);
                                        • Fix an error on Hass caused by an unhandled attribute (#27);
                                        • New units configuration value "uk" (#31), as well as more granular control over units (if imperial, metric, or uk isn't enough, you can now set units by use class; per device/attribute is planned and part of the architecture as well);
                                        • Fix elevation computation problem in sunrise/set data (mangles angles if elev configured <> 0) (#34);
                                        • Now with working SMTP, Prowl, Pushover and Syslog notifications;
                                        • Notification forwarding for Hubitat (see docs for configuration details);
                                        • many documentation fixes and upgrades.
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                                        #44

                                        @toggledbits said in Multi-System Reactor Developer Preview AVAILABLE:

                                        I'm getting ready to assemble today's build (21051). I think I have everything urgent covered, with some PRs left open for confirmation. There's one more I want to try to address before I roll it up and out for the day.

                                        This build also includes:

                                        • Fix for condition trigger repeating when a sustained-for delay applies (#30);
                                        • Fix an error on import (#29);
                                        • Fix an error on Hass caused by an unhandled attribute (#27);
                                        • New units configuration value "uk" (#31), as well as more granular control over units (if imperial, metric, or uk isn't enough, you can now set units by use class; per device/attribute is planned and part of the architecture as well);
                                        • Fix elevation computation problem in sunrise/set data (mangles angles if elev configured <> 0) (#34);
                                        • Now with working SMTP, Prowl, Pushover and Syslog notifications;
                                        • Notification forwarding for Hubitat (see docs for configuration details);
                                        • many documentation fixes and upgrades.

                                        Looking good, squashing those bugs. I will keep reporting anything I find. Just set up SMTP. Works great!

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                                          wrote on last edited by Matohl
                                          #45

                                          For being a "Developer preview" it is quite solid. After some minor issues yesterday and have been solved with 21051, I have re-built most of my Reactor-sensors in Vera in the MSR and it is working fine. They are now disabled in the Vera and let's see how it goes in the coming days 🙂

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