Not so quiet around here :)
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Gees, I know a lot of those names, didn't know Pabla and Crille were banned and I certainly didn't know ElCid was banned.
Well I always speak my mind and if something doesn't work I'll say it doesn't.
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I'm suspended until 2/27/3021 according to the Sign On screen.
"Account suspended until February 27, 3021: Breach of forum rules"(FYI, I did not know this for 48 hours, because the login screen said nothing at all at first.)
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@tunnus said in Not so quiet around here
:Got banned quite quickly from Vera/ezlo forum, without any warning. I was kinda asking for it, but still, they could have some sense of humour over there
Welcome to the new normal
@toggledbits said in Not so quiet around here
:@perh said in Not so quiet around here
:I've asked for them to delete my account, but they say "the jury's still out"
If you're in GDPR territory, there is no jury. Your request is ironclad.
Ummm, not really unless the data is stored in GDPR geography ITYF.
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Clearly they aren't using the forum platform software as intended. "Suspended" is meant to be a reasonable time based suspension rather than a permanent ban.
Others who have been "Suspended" also. won't be back then if they have the same date of 3021 ?
Appears there are no proper appeals process or procedures.
Only thing you could do is contact Customer Care for what good that might do.
Who is going to help me with Node-Red now? Is ElCid a member here ?
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Elcidreplied to cw-kid on Mar 10, 2021, 4:24 PM last edited by Elcid Mar 10, 2021, 11:26 AM
Yes i am here, as always I will help anyone who asks.
Just for info - I have no idea what the reason for my suspension, I have contacted CS but they seem to be just ignoring my request for a clear reason.
As to GDPR if they run servers in europe then we are covered by GDPR, even if they move the servers to the US, as I think there is a privacy agreement with the US.
Is there GDPR in the US? - GDPR USA - Cookiebot™
Is there GDPR in the US? Let Cookiebot explain GDPR in the USA to make sure you fully understand regulations and how to comply.
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Everything I've read says it does not matter where the data are stored, it matters where the owner of the data (you) live. If that were not true, GDPR would be very easy to circumvent.
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Yes, it’s really ridiculous and all my ongoing PM’s and threads with the dev team is now just left unanswered.
Feels like I’m being rude not answering them but what can we do.
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Pablareplied to cw-kid on Mar 10, 2021, 5:36 PM last edited by Pabla Mar 10, 2021, 12:38 PM
@cw-kid said in Not so quiet around here
:Gees, I know a lot of those names, didn't know Pabla and Crille were banned and I certainly didn't know ElCid was banned.
Well I always speak my mind and if something doesn't work I'll say it doesn't.
Lets just say I wasn't outright banned, but was asked if I wanted to leave. Couldn't turn down the offer
.. probably would have been banned anyways thoughTo be honest, I didnt even care for that forum anymore esp since I can get plugin help from the devs here.
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@elcid said in Not so quiet around here
:Yes i am here, as always I will help anyone who asks.
Just for info - I have no idea what the reason for my suspension, I have contacted CS but they seem to be just ignoring my request for a clear reason.
As to GDPR if they run servers in europe then we are covered by GDPR, even if they move the servers to the US, as I think there is a privacy agreement with the US.
Is there GDPR in the US? Let Cookiebot explain GDPR in the USA to make sure you fully understand regulations and how to comply.
I doubt they do run servers in Europe
@toggledbits said in Not so quiet around here
:Everything I've read says it does not matter where the data are stored, it matters where the owner of the data (you) live. If that were not true, GDPR would be very easy to circumvent.
Yeah. But no. Imagine the data was on a server in North Korea. Or Iraq.....
This was, and is, one of my responsibilities in my day job.
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@catmanv2 said in Not so quiet around here
:Yeah. But no. Imagine the data was on a server in North Korea. Or Iraq.....
Well, yeah, OK... but I don't think that's the case here. Take a peek at where the hostname resolves. At least here in the US, it's good for a chuckle.
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@elcid said in Not so quiet around here
:Just for info - I have no idea what the reason for my suspension
Its bonkers, when did you get suspended then?
So you have not been a rebel on the forum? Seems you can get banned for any reason. Top people being kicked off.
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@librasun said in Not so quiet around here
:I have the long list of banned Forum members but it has grown since Feb. 27 when I made it.
It starts... "ElCid, HSD99, Matteburk, Mai_Pensato, Crille, eonnet, hienry_k9, Forzaalfa, TomD, LibraSun, Shoktronic, DesT, Catman, kfxo, Pabla, slelieveld, akbooer, rafale77, matsohl, tunnus..."
Wow, have to say I’m in a good company
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Elcidreplied to cw-kid on Mar 10, 2021, 10:36 PM last edited by Elcid Mar 10, 2021, 5:38 PM
@cw-kid I have not been able to login since the 28/03.
As to rebel, just a little more blunt than you. As I see it someone was on a purge.
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I've spoken to him at length this evening in PM and told him in my blunt way, at this rate there won't be any experts left on the forum.
Can't say I'm happy about some of the names recently gone either.
Apparently it was over whatever was said between you two in that thread about previous forum members being banned.
That thread should of been shut down well before now and what was said about it all was said back then at the time, Good or bad, right or wrong, it doesn't help anyone to keep going over it all.
I'd stopped reading that thread as I was tired of the drama so I was avoiding that thread.
Told him you were one of our top coding experts and you'd helped a lot and other Vera users on the forum and that I'd not seen you speak out of turn on any other threads that I have seen.
Also suggested he should not get so engaged with it all and let some of it go.
But I can see both sides and some of his concerns also.
But what can you do. Both sides have done things to upset the other.
I know he wasn't happy about the PM that apparently went round promoting this néw forum. Not sure if I got that PM can't remember.
I think he feels you are all against the Ezlo platform and its future success and you just want your Vera firmware as is, to hack.
I think he thinks this forum and its users are a competitor and I can't really see how as the Vera firmware is legacy anyway now and you here are not a corporate entity
It's his sand pit to play with at the end of the day.
So what can you do. I'm keeping an open mind. If the Ezlo hubs are decent when ready I'll use them as a radio only or maybe with their own dashboard app and engine.
If not I'll look else where. We have MSR now and I am running a killer Home Remote dashboard app right now, which does support other platforms.
Z-Wave.me Z-Way some of you are already using might be a good replacement.
Time will tell as Bob Marley once said. Peace go smoke some
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I actually DID make an earnest attempt to CLOSE that ridiculous thread in mid-stride, but M. forced me to re-open it, so the argument could continue. Which it did for another 3-4 days before he himself closed it.
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@cw-kid said in Not so quiet around here
:I think he feels you are all against the Ezlo platform and its future success and you just want your Vera firmware as is, to hack.
I think he thinks this forum and its users are a competitor and I can't really see how as the Vera firmware is legacy anyway now and you here are not a corporate entity
I just find it funny how Melih thinks we are trying to hack Vera when its legacy now. What difference does it make if a Vera is 'hacked'? If anything it may even attract more users since they have a platform they can change to their liking.
Second how are we competitors, like it was mentioned on this forum theres nothing here that you can buy. Its just DIY stuff that experienced users can set up, I can't even set up OpenLuup. I am just here cause id rather be posting in a neutral space with no crazy guy attacking people that helped more than he could have.
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@cw-kid said in Not so quiet around here
:you just want your Vera firmware as is, to hack.
Dear god no!
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