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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
R

Hi guys,

Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular.

Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets.

I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.

Multi-System Reactor
Moving MSR from a QNAP container to RP 5 - some issues
Tom_DT

I have installed MSR on a RP5 bare metal and then copied the config and store files. Everything seems to be on the RP5 but I am missing all global expression and I don't see the controller time.

Screenshot 2025-04-06 201446.png

My browser is Microsoft Edge Version 135.0.3179.54 (Official build) (64-bit)

I have probably done something stupid or missed a step but I am stuck.

Thanks for any help.

Multi-System Reactor
Widget deletion does not work and landing page (status) is empy
M

Hi,
It seems that the widget deletion does not work. I tried to drag the widget to the left (as explained in here https://smarthome.community/topic/1071/deleting-widgets?_=1744037333660)
but it does not delete it. Anyone else experiencing the same problem?

Also the landing page after login is empty and seems be have some JS issues on the dev console:

Screenshot from 2025-04-07 18-06-19.png

fd7f0424-debb-49d3-86d8-9a3b09ad3868-image.png

Using dockerized version of Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25082-3c348de6 on Chromium 135.0.7049.52 (Official Build) snap (64-bit)

br,
mgvra

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Need help reducing false positive notifications
T

Good day all,
I have an notification set up for my washing machine to let me know when it's complete. I have a templete sensor set up in HAAS to let me know if it's Washing, in Standby, or off, based upon the power consumption (Shelly 1PM on outlets)

- name: "Washing Machine" state: > {% if states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float == 0 %} Off {% elif states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float <= 2.9 %} Standby {% else %} Washing {% endif %} icon: > {% if states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power") == "off" %} mdi:washing-machine-alert {% elif states("sensor.washer_switch_0_power")|float <= 2.9 %} mdi:washing-machine-off {% else %} mdi:washing-machine {% endif %} minutes: 2

The MSR code is relatively simple. I have a built in false positive attribute for if MSR gets rebooted, because I would suddenly get tons of notifications when I upgraded MSR.

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What I'm trying to introduce, is a way to verify that I just didn't bump the knob on the washing machine when transferring loads from the washer to the dryer, which turns on the display and brings the power above the Standby threshold.

The power goes up to 3.7W for about 4 minutes if the selector knob is bumped/turned.

What would the best way to do this be? I have most of my MSR code set up for a couple of years now, and my coding logic is struggling a bit.

I think I need a power threshold to be substained for a minimum time period (say 2 or 3 minutes, above 10W), before the other triggers can act. What would the best way to do that be?

Running: latest-25082-3c348de6
Fedora 41 Server
HAAS:
Core
2025.3.4
Supervisor
2025.03.4
Operating System
15.1
Frontend
20250306.0

Multi-System Reactor
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT

Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.

Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
Multi-System Reactor
Deleting widgets
tunnusT

Hopefully a trivial question, but how do you delete widgets in a status page? Using build 22266

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MQTT configuration question
tunnusT

I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file

x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }'

While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?

Multi-System Reactor
System Configuration Check - time is offset
F

Hi!

I get this message when I'm on the status tab:

System Configuration Check
The time on this system and on the Reactor host are significantly different. This may be due to incorrect system configuration on either or both. Please check the configuration of both systems. The host reports 2025-04-01T15:29:29.252Z; browser reports 2025-04-01T15:29:40.528Z; difference 11.276 seconds.

I have MSR installed as a docker on my Home Assistant Blue / Hardkernel ODROID-N2/N2+. MSR version is latest-25082-3c348de6.
HA versions are:
Core 2025.3.4
Supervisor 2025.03.4
Operating System 15.1

I have restarted HA as well as MSR multiple times. This message didn´t show two weeks ago. Don´t know if it have anything to do with the latest MSR version.
Do anyone know what I can try?
Thanks in advance!
Let's Be Careful Out There (Hill Street reference...) 🙂
/Fanan

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Programmatically capture HTTP Request action status code or error
therealdbT

I have a very strange situation, where if InfluxDB restarts, other containers may fail when restarting at the same time (under not easy to understand circumstances), and InfluxDB remains unreachable (and these containers crashes). I need to reboot these containers in an exact order, after rebooting InfluxDB.

While I understand what's going on, I need a way to reliable determine that InfluxDB is not reachable and these containers are not reachable, in order to identify this situation and manually check what's going on - and, maybe, in the future, automatically restart them if needed.

So, I was looking at HTTP Request action, but I need to capture the HTTP response code, instead of the response (becase if ping is OK, InfluxDB will reply with a 204), and, potentially, a way to programmatically detect that it's failing to get the response.

While I could write a custom HTTP controller for this or a custom HTTP virtual device, I was wondering if this is somewhat on you roadmap @toggledbits

Thanks!

Multi-System Reactor
ZwaveJSUI - RGBWW BULB - Warm/Cold White interfered with RGB settings - Bulb doesn't change color if in WarmWhite state.
N

Hi ,
I'm on
-Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25067-62e21a2d
-Docker on Synology NAS
-ZWaveJSUI 9.31.0.6c80945

Problem with ZwaveJSUI:
When I try to change color to a bulb RGBWW, it doesn't change to the RGB color and the bulb remains warm or cold white.
I tryed with Zipato RGBW Bulb V2 RGBWE2, Hank Bulb HKZW-RGB01, Aentec 6 A-ZWA002, so seems that it happens with all RGBWW bulb with reactor/zwavejsui.

I'm using from reator the entity action: "rgb_color.set" and "rgb_color.set_rgb".
After I send the reactor command, It changes in zwavejsui the rgb settings but doesn't put the white channel to "0", so the prevalent channel remains warm/cold White and the bulb doesn't change into the rgb color.

This is the status of the bulb in zwavejsui after "rgb_color.set" (235,33,33,) and the bulb is still warmWhite.

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor={"warmWhite":204,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}

The "cold white" and "warm white" settings interfer with the rgb color settings.

Reactor can change bulb colors with rgb_color set — (value, ui8, 0x000000 to 0xffffff) or rgb_color set_rgb — (red, green, blue, all ui1, 0 to 255) but if warm or cold white
are not to "0", zwavejsui doesn't change them and I can't find a way to change into rgb or from rgb back to warm white.

So if I use from reactor: rgb_color set_rgb — (235,33,33) in zwavejsui I have

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33} 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: targetColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: targetColor 14/03/2025, 16:43:57 - value updated Arg 0: └─commandClassName: Color Switch └─commandClass: 51 └─property: currentColor └─endpoint: 0 └─newValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─prevValue └──warmWhite: 204 └──coldWhite: 0 └──red: 235 └──green: 33 └──blue: 33 └─propertyName: currentColor

In zwavejsui, the bulb changes rgb set but warm White remains to "204" and the bulb remais on warm White channel bacause is prevalent on rgb set.

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_0=204 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_1=0 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_2=235 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_3=33 x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_currentColor_4=33

Is it possible to targetColor also for "warmWhite" and "coldWhite" and have something similar to this?

x_zwave_values.Color_Switch_targetColor={"warmWhite":0,"coldWhite":0,"red":235,"green":33,"blue":33}

Thanks in advance.

Multi-System Reactor
Problem with simultaneous notifications.
T

Good day all,
I have a reaction set up, that I use for both troubleshooting and changing home modes when one of my family members either arrive or are leaving. I use the companion app for HAAS on our iPhones, and HAAS reports if the person associated with the iPhone enters or leaves the geofenced area around my home. I'm sure most MSR and HAAS users are familiar with this.

I use this rule set mainly as a condition for other rules, however, as part of troubleshooting, a notification is sent through HAAS to the companion app when the rule becomes true. The problem is that I'm getting notifications now for both arriving and departing simultaneously.

96b3f7db-ba09-499e-a78c-86903b603857-image.png

36903cdd-a87f-473b-82ef-af9ef96d3c44-image.png It used to work fine as intended. I'm not sure exactly when it changed, but now I'm getting two notifications when either of these conditions change.

Any idea what could be happening?

Edit:
Running: latest-25082-3c348de6, bare-metal Linux
ZWaveJSControllerr [0.1.25082]

Multi-System Reactor
Problem after upgrading to 25067
R

MSR had been running fine, but I decided to follow the message to upgrade to 25067. Since the upgrade, I have received the message "Controller "<name>" (HubitatController hubitat2) could not be loaded at startup. Its ID is not unique." MSR throws the message on every restart. Has anyone else encountered this problem?
I am running MSR on a Raspberry Pi4 connecting to two Hubitat units over an OpenVPN tunnel. One C8 and a C8 Pro. Both are up-to-date. It appears that despite the error message that MSR may be operating properly.

Multi-System Reactor
Global expressions not always evaluated
tunnusT

Similarly as for local expressions, global expressions evaluate and update fine when getEntity(...) structure is used. However, at least when certain functions are in use, expressions do not update.

Consider the following test case:

Screenshot 2025-03-13 at 16.29.42.png

Even though auto-evaluation is active, value does not change (it changes only if that expression is manually run). MSR restarts do not help.

Screenshot 2025-03-13 at 16.31.43.png

Note: Tested using build 25067 on Docker. I have also a PR open (but couldn't now get details or PR number as my Mantis account was somehow expired?).

Multi-System Reactor
[Solved] Local expression evaluation
V

Trying to understand what cause a local expresssion to be evaluated. I have read the manual but I am still not clear about it. Using the test rule below, I can see in the log that the rule is being automatically evaluated every time the temperature entity is changing. That is great...

What I am trying to understand is why the expression is not evaluated based on time as well since the "case" statement has time dependencies.

Any help would be appreciated

I have the following test rule:

eba6a3ea-ff61-4610-88c9-9b9864f11ff8-Screenshot 2025-01-21 095244.png

2d9c1ff5-7b73-4005-b324-9029c2709db9-Screenshot 2025-01-21 095302.png

Here is the expressioncode:

vFrom1 = "09:25:00", vFrom2 = "09:30:00", vFrom3 = "09:41:00", vTo = "10:55:00", # Get current time (format HH:MM:SS) vToDay = strftime("%H:%M:%S"), #Get current house temperature CurrentHouseTemp = getEntity( "hass>Thermostat2 " ).attributes.temperature_sensor.value, case when CurrentHouseTemp <= 19 and vToDay >= vFrom1 && vToDay <= vTo: "true1" # From1 when CurrentHouseTemp <= 20 and vToDay >= vFrom2 && vToDay <= vTo: "true2" # From2 when CurrentHouseTemp < 26  and vToDay >= vFrom3 && vToDay <= vTo: "true3" # From3 else "false" end
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[Solved] Runtime error when exiting global reaction that contains a group
S

I am getting a Runtime error on different browsers when I click exit when editing an existing or creating a new global reaction containing a group. If the global reaction does not have a group I don't get an error. I see a similar post on the forum about a Runtime Error when creating reactions but started a new thread as that appears to be solved.

The Runtime Error is different in the two browsers
Safari v18.3

@http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:44 You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.

Google Chrome 133.0.6943.142

TypeError: self.editor.isModified is not a function at HTMLButtonElement.<anonymous> (http://192.168.10.21:8111/reactor/en-US/lib/js/reaction-list.js:171:34) You may report this error, but do not screen shot it. Copy-paste the complete text. Remember to include a description of the operation you were performing in as much detail as possible. Report using the Reactor Bug Tracker (in your left navigation) or at the SmartHome Community.

Steps to reproduce:
Click the pencil to edit a global reaction with a group.
Click the Exit button.
Runtime error appears.
or
Click Create Reaction
Click Add Action
Select Group
Add Condition such as Entity Attribute.
Add an Action.
Click Save
Click Exit
Runtime error appears.

I don’t know how long the error has been there as I haven’t edited the global reaction in a long time.

Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-25060-f32eaa46
Docker
Mac OS: 15.3.1
Thanks

Multi-System Reactor
Cannot delete Global Expressions
SnowmanS

I am trying to delete a global expression (gLightDelay) but for some strange reason, it comes back despite clicking the Delete this expression and Save Changes buttons.

I have not created a global expression for some times and just noticed this while doing some clean-up.

I have upgraded Reactor to 25067 from 25060 and the behaviour is still there. I have restarted Reactor (as well as restarting its container) and cleared the browser's cache several times without success.

Here's what the log shows.

[latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:22.690Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" } [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:26.254Z <GlobalExpression:NOTICE> Deleting global expression gLightDelay [latest-25067]2025-03-08T23:50:27.887Z <wsapi:INFO> [WSAPI]wsapi#1 rpc_echo [Object]{ "comment": "UI activity" }

Reactor latest-25067-62e21a2d
Docker on Synology NAS

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Local notification methods?
CatmanV2C

Morning, experts. Hard on learning about the internet check script in MSR tools, I was wondering what suggestions anyone has about a local (i.e. non-internet dependent) notification method.

This was prompted by yesterday's fun and games with my ISP.

I've got the script Cronned and working properly but short of flashing a light on and off, I'm struggling to think of a way of alerting me (ideally to my phone)

I guess I could set up a Discord server at home, but that feels like overkill for a rare occasion. Any other suggestions?

TIA

C

Multi-System Reactor
Custom capabilities in MQTT templates
M

Hi,
I'm trying to integrate the sonos-mqtt (https://sonos2mqtt.svrooij.io/) with the MSR and it's coming along nicely so far.
But cannot wrap my head around how to define custom capabilities in MQTT templates. I need this for the TTS announcements and similarly for the notification sounds where I would pass the sound file as parameter.

So this is what I have in the local_mqtt_devices.yaml

capabilities: x_sonos_announcement: attributes: actions: speak: arguments: text: type: string volume: type: int delay: type: int

And this is the template:

templates: sonos-announcement: capabilities: - x_sonos_announcement actions: x_sonos_announcement: speak: topic: "sonos/cmd/speak" payload: expr: > { "text": parameters.text, "volume": parameters.volume, "delayMs": parameters.delay, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" } type: json

So the speak action should send something like this to topic sonos/cmd/speak

{ "text": "message goes here", "volume": 50, "delayMs": 100, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" }

At startup the MSR seems to be quite unhappy with my configuration:

reactor | [latest-25016]2025-02-09T08:19:59.029Z <MQTTController:WARN> MQTTController#mqtt entity Entity#mqtt>sonos-announcement unable to configure capabilities [Array][ "x_sonos_announcement" ] reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} has unrecognized capability {1:q} in actions reactor | Trace: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1} reactor | at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:611:28) reactor | at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:125:25) reactor | at MQTTController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:627:30) reactor | at MQTTController.start (/var/reactor/ext/MQTTController/MQTTController.js:268:26) reactor | at async Promise.allSettled (index 0) Configuration for "sonos-announcement" has unrecognized capability "x_sonos_announcement" in actions Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM Configuration for "sonos-announcement" is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: x_sonos_announcement Controller: MQTTController#mqtt Last 10:21:37 AM

This is probably a pretty stupid question and the approach may not even work at all, but maybe someone or @toggledbits for sure, could point me to the right direction.
Basically the idea is to be able to send TTS messages from reactions using entity actions. I've previously used HTTP requests to Sonos HTTP API (https://hub.docker.com/r/chrisns/docker-node-sonos-http-api/) for the same functionality, but since moving to sonos-mqtt, I need a way to send the TTS notifications using MQTTController. Along with the actual message, volume and delay must also be parameterizable.

br,
mgvra

MSR latest-25016-d47fea38 / MQTTController [0.2.24293]

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[SOLVED]Hass websocket falsely reporting ready on boot??
V

Hi, @toggledbits

I just noticed that following a reboot of my raspberry pi, some of the rules, that I was expecting to recover, are not catching up following a reboot. I have made a simple test rule (rule-m6rz6ol1) with only "after Date/time" as trigger and "turn on a lamp" as a set reaction. All my infrastructure is on the same board so Reactor, Hass, Zwavejs, ... are all rebooting.

Here is the sequence of the test case (All time converted to Zulu to match logs):

Rule "after Date/Time" set to 14:05:00z Shutdown on Raspberry Pi at 14:04:00z Power back up at 14:08:00z Rule overview shows true as of 14:08:14z waiting for 00:00:00 in GUI

From the log I can see that MSR is picking up the rule and knows that the state of the rule has changed from false to true and tries to send the update to HASS but failed with websocket error.

Here is what I see from the log:

14:04:04z shutdown complete 14:08:08z Power up 14:08:13.111z websocket connection 14:08:15:323z Reaction to the light failed, Websocket not opened After there is a series of websocket connection attempt until 14:08:51z where it seemed to be really ready.

Back in 2021 we had a discussion (https://smarthome.community/topic/700/solved-start-up?_=1738766986566) and you proposed to add a startup_delay:xxxx and startup_wait:xxxx parameter in the engine section of "reactor.yaml". When I try the startup_delay (this used to be a hard delay), the engine failed to start (I think). I then try the startup_wait:xxxx without any success. Since it wait for the connection status to be up to cancel the delay, it does not do anyting since Hass is reporting the socket up without really being up ( I think...).

Questions:

Did I figured it all wrong? should the startup_delay:xxxxx have worked? Any ideas?

Here is the log:

OK now I am stuck. I did add the log but when I submit the editor complained saying that I am limited to 32767 characters. The log from the shutdown to the time the websocket is stable is about 300000 character long. What are my options?

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[SOLVED]Logs permissions for Docker Install
V

Not a big issue simply a request if easily doable.

The MSR logs files inside the container are owned by root witch is fine however, the permissions are very restrictive. I do not know if there is something wrong with my installation but the logs permission are set to 222 (write only). Even if the docker volume is set for Read/Write the log files are retaining these values.

I go around the problem by doing a chmod 777 on all reactor logs but every time there is an MSR log rotation the permissions are set back to 222. So unless the permission are implemented in the container there is no permanent solution to this (that I know of).

I do not know much about Docker container so I do not know what is involved here.

Can the logfiles permission be simply chaged in the container to at least allow "other" read permission?

Could the MSR log rotation routine implement a chmod to set the permission?

Just a small anoyance

Thanks

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Replacing SiteSensor Plugin (Vera) with MSR

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  • LibraSunL Offline
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    wrote on last edited by LibraSun
    #1

    For MSR users with SiteSensor still installed back on Vera, you might want to consider letting MSR take over those duties. Here's a quick run-down of how I imported one of my SiteSensor recipes into a Rule on MSR, using OpenWeather API* as an example.

    STEP 1: Copy the Basics from Vera
    (a) Go to your Vera > Devices, locate SiteSensor (the main instance, not one of its children devices) and click ► for details then click SETTINGS.
    (b) Copy and paste (into Notepad or other text editor) the Request URL along with each of the defined expressions.

    STEP 2: Create a Rule on MSR
    (c) Jump into Rule Sets and click "Create Rule". Click its title to rename the rule 'OpenWeather (API)" and click 'Rename'.
    (d) Decide on appropriate Triggers (in my case, it's an OR group that includes an [INTERVAL] set to "Every 3 hours" plus a few [ENTITY ATTRIBUTE] entries reacting to things like entering/leaving home, waking up, etc.).
    (e) In Set Reacion, create an [HTTP REQUEST] > [GET] action.
    (f) Paste your old "Request URL" into the "Request URL" box.

    FYI GET calls to OpenWeather API* take the form:

    http://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/weather?zip=<your_ZIP_code>&id=<your_Wx_ID>&appid=<app-id>&units=imperial
    

    (g) Create four new blank Expressions (name them openWx, Tx, Hx and Rx).
    (h) Click SAVE & EXIT

    STEP 3: Process the Response
    (i) Re-open rule "OpenWeather (API)" by clicking the 'Edit' icon.
    (j) Within the [HTTP REQUEST] action, assign "Capture response to:" ► openWx
    (k) Down in Expressions, click "[+]Add Expresssion" then enter the following:
    Tx := round(openWx.main.temp,1)
    // yields current outdoor temperature
    Hx := round(openWx.main.humidity)
    // yields current humidity conditions
    Rx := openWx.rain ? ( openWx.rain['3h'] ? openWx.rain['3h'] : 0) : 0
    // yields predicted rainfall, if present; otherwise 0
    (l) Click SAVE & EXIT. Enjoy!

    Naturally, your specific needs and workflow will differ from the one I've outlined here. For instance, you may wish to explore the contents of the JSON object in openWx for additional data of interest to you, and define variables to match.

    My goal here has been to illustrate some key concepts needed for moving from SiteSensor over to MSR:

    • Some syntax is the same, such as dot notation for object.item.access;
    • Other syntax has changed, such as the use of ternary A ? B : C in place of IF (A, B, C);
    • Manually setting an [INTERVAL] in lieu of SiteSensor's timed schedule;

    Pro tip: If your workflow demands that other Rules react to the output of the "OpenWeather (API)" rule, then be sure to create all of the aforementioned Expressions under "Global Expressions" instead, so they become accessible across all Rule Sets.

    Once the transition is complete, you can either DISARM SiteSensor on Vera or remove it entirely with "Remove Device" (which will automatically remove all of its child devices).

    *Additional reading:
    OpenWeather API : https://openweathermap.org/api
    FREE SUBSCRIPTION REQUIRED TO USE THIS SERVICE

    PRO TIP: See below for optimal way to incorporate OpenWeatherMap into your MSR workflow(s), by enabling the service directly in the reactor.yaml config file.

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      gwp1
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      I just this morning discovered this in MSR. I'm currently using two SiteSensors to read my Ambient weather station API and OpenWxMap's API. I use the data to drive HVAC reactors in Vera. Given the nature of APIs, I created the OpenWxMap one to be a backup. As such, there's a Master API Failover reactor in Vera that monitors the Ambient SiteSensor and, if the query fails, shuts it off and switches to the OpenWxMap SiteSensor. There are duplicate HVAC reactors, one for each API provider. When the next successful query from the Ambient SiteSensor is successful, the Master API Failover fails everything back again.

      Given in MSR there are no reactor devices I'm stumped on how to turn on and off rulesets to duplicate the above.

      Thoughts?

      I've only had my MSR online for a week now so I'm still uncovering things within it.

      *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.151
      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

      *HASS 2025.3.4
      w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
      MSR: latest-25082-3c348de6
      MQTTController: 24257
      ZWave Controller: 25082

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        toggledbits
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        There's a OWMWeatherController built-in to MSR. If you're going to use OpenWeatherMap, that's a more efficient way to go about it. For other API integrations, the method described above is useful.

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          @toggledbits I dug about a bit and found this in the manual. How would I invoke this, I don't see anything in Entities (post-config)?

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            In your reactor.yaml, did you switch the "enabled" setting for the weather to enabled? Maybe show/post your config section for that controller?

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              sigh

              Wow. More coffee required. Yeah, it was set to false. Correction made. I now have entity OWM Weather > weather.system > sys_system.state (primary)

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                Great. If you filter the "Entities" list (left nav) for the "wx" capability, you should find the entity that contains your local weather data.

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                  @toggledbits said in Replacing SiteSensor Plugin (Vera) with MSR:

                  There's a OWMWeatherController built-in to MSR.

                  Could you possibly shoe-horn lat, lon, location (city) name, time zone, etc. with that object? Or do those values already surface elsewhere in MSR?

                  I'd be interested in using them as part of my "Weekly Report" quasi-mailmerge notifications.

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                    #9

                    OPENWEATHER PRO TIP

                    Users of MSR's built-in weather object ('weather>default') may wish to know how to convert the value in wx.icon to an actual thumbnail image.

                    Here's how:
                    Suppose the value stored in that variable is '01d'
                    Simply prepend 'http://openweathermap.org/img/wn/' to the beginning, and append '.png' to the end. (You can enlarge the image by including '@2x', '@4x', etc. before the '.png'!)

                    Better still, gather all of the icons files from https://openweathermap.org/weather-conditions and host them on your own local server/repo, to spare OWx from excess bandwidth. You can also grab their table of "Weather Condition Codes" containing a description of each possible value in wx.condition_code.

                    These tirbits would be helpful in designing a dynamic "Weather" tile for the MSR Dashboard feature!!

                    EXAMPLES:
                    clear sky Condition: 01d = "Clear Sky (day)"
                    clouds Condition: 04n = "Clouds (night)"

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                      #10

                      FEATURE REQUEST

                      Add "Solar Noon" to Sunrise/Sunset trigger in MSR, even if it's just derived as "halfway point between Sunrise and Sunset"
                      (No need for "Civil Noon" since that's automatically 12:00pm)

                      Could be useful for farms, solar installations, etc.

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                        That's easy, it has it, so all I need to do is add the menu item to the UI.

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                          @toggledbits I found this:
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                          Oddly, the historical is returning Melgrove lol I left the config so that it would pull from the default location which is using lat/long.

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                            I'm not sure where you're going with this post? Are you reporting a problem?

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                              @toggledbits I guess I am - unless I'm misreading the docs. I believe to have OWM set to use the default location of MSR which is Hanahan SC, not Melgrove Someplace.

                              I don't want to file a bug until I'm sure it's MSR and not me.

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                                OK. In order to sort that out, I need to see your configuration for both the default system location and OWM. Post here or PM is fine.

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                                  @toggledbits Posted via PM.

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                                    OK. Looks like all is good, OWM is just returning an odd place name (who knows what data they sourced that from), and since you are using "default" configuration (home location from Reactor main config), it's using OWM's returned name for the entity name. If you do a custom location in the OWM config, you can set the name by adding the "name" to the custom config. I'm going to extend that behavior to the default location config as well, and that will be in today's build. If you want to get it fixed before that, just add a location to your OWMController config section:

                                      - id: weather
                                        enabled: true
                                        implementation: OWMWeatherController
                                        name: OWM Weather
                                        config:
                                          appid: "yourappidhere"
                                          locations:
                                            - id: home
                                              name: "My Custom Place Name"
                                              latitude: nn.nnnnnn
                                              longitude: nn.nnnnnn
                                    

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                                      @toggledbits I'm a few nightly builds behind so I'll wait until you have tonight's out. Thanks!

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                                        @librasun said in Replacing SiteSensor Plugin (Vera) with MSR:

                                        My goal here has been to illustrate some key concepts needed for moving from SiteSensor over to MSR

                                        I never used SiteSensor plugin for Vera before.

                                        Thanks for the MSR example you wrote.

                                        I wanted to try this out and found this Covid-19 API here.

                                        However the http command they give doesn't seem to return any results data, either just in the web browser or in my MSR rule.

                                        https://covid19-api.com/country?name=UK&format=json
                                        

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                                        The curl command does work OK however

                                        curl -X GET "https://covid19-api.com/country?name=UK&format=json" -H "accept: application/json"
                                        

                                        How do I specify the application/json in the MSR rule? Assuming the problem is related to that.

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                                          Same way. One header per line in that field.

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