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Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
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@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
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Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
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I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Can´t restart or upgrade/deploy MSR
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[Solved] Limit HA Entity in MSR
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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
R
Hi guys, Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular. Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets. I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.
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Moving MSR from a QNAP container to RP 5 - some issues
Tom_DT
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Widget deletion does not work and landing page (status) is empy
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Need help reducing false positive notifications
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Deleting widgets
tunnusT
Hopefully a trivial question, but how do you delete widgets in a status page? Using build 22266
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MQTT configuration question
tunnusT
I have the following yaml configuration in local_mqtt_devices file x_mqtt_device: set_speed: arguments: speed: type: str topic: "command/%friendly_name%" payload: type: json expr: '{ "fan": parameters.speed }' While this works fine, I'm wondering how this could be changed to "fixed" parameters, as in this case "fan" only accepts "A", "Q" or a numeric value of 1-5?
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Recommendation for new hub

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    My trusty vera plus is starting to have some issues that are making me think that it is about to die. i now get constant luup reloads even though i've moved almost everything except for z-wave devices and the iphone locator off that machine. it is even booting off an ssd drive to minimize wear and tear on the internal memory. I've moved all my logic off box to MSR, so it is just a glorified zwave adapter. I would love to hear any ideas that would make moving 60ish devices off that box to something else as painless as possible. the thought of excluding and including the devices sends shivers down my spine, so anything that helps me migrate the network would be greatly welcomed. anyone have any suggestions?

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      I, too, moved ~50 devices from my VeraSecure to my Hubitat. It wasn't as daunting as you think, tbh. I did it over the period of a couple months (from the sounds of things you may not have quite that long) but it's really just a matter of taking 15:, 20: a day and doing the needful.

      For me, plugging them into the existing rulesets was more painful - but even that wasn't awful.

      *Hubitat C-7 2.4.1.177
      *Proxmox VE v8, Beelink MiniPC 12GBs, SSD

      *HASS 2025.6.0
      w/ ZST10-700 fw 7.18.3

      *Prod MSR in docker/portainer
      MSR: latest-25139-fbd67abc
      MQTTController: 25139
      ZWave Controller: 25139

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        I also recently made the switch from VeraPlus to Hubitat, and now have some very simple rules running on the Hubitat and more complex rules running on MSR and Node-Red.

        I had some flood/leak sensors that I bought in anticipation of them being integrated into the next Vera firmware release, and then that release never came out of beta. Then I had an issue with devices disconnecting that was probably related to the Vera running out of storage space. Support was able to fix it, but that was the thing that pushed me over the edge to make the platform switch. I'm still maintaining a VeraPlus with a pretty simple setup at my parents' house, and plan to keep that one running as long as it keeps working with my old one serving as a backup if theirs ever fails. My VeraPlus is still powered on for the moment, but there are no z-wave devices on it, all it is doing is logging some data into Datamine2.

        It took a few days and some searching online to figure out some quirks on the Hubitat, but there is enough of a user community that I have always quickly found a thread that pointed me in the right direction. I was able to recreate everything I was doing on the Vera and more.

        The biggest plus for me is that I have some Sengled Zigbee lights and the VeraPlus Zigbee hub didn't work with their RGB functions, so I had to have a Sengled hub connected to those. While I could do some integration to them via the Sengled API and Python scripting, they were totally cloud dependent. Within a week of getting them connected locally to the Hubitat, Sengled had an extended server outage that would have left those lights uncontrollable (other than the wall switch) for a day or so. Since they're connected to the Hubitat, the outage didn't affect me.

        So my setup now is a Hubitat C-7 and a RPi4 that is running Node-Red on 'bare metal', plus Reactor, InfluxDB / Chronograf / Telegraf (which I haven't had time to figure out yet), Portainer, MQTT, and Gotify (for self-hosted push notifications) running under Docker.

        When you count Z-Wave, Zigbee, WiFi lights, virtual devices, device groups, smart home speakers, and phone apps - all of which count as devices on the Hubitat - I have 80 devices on the hub.

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          wmarcolin
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          Hi @sebby

          Come be happy with Hubitat, unfortunately, we have been orphaned by Vera, who was useful to us for a long time, but the new owners have buried her evolution.

          I am two weeks into the moving process, my first impression of the Hubitat is excellent, I have to migrate almost 100 devices, and it has been a lot of work. First I have to find the manual on the internet, show how to reset to factory settings, and then add to Hubitat, but it is worth the sacrifice, the perception I have that now the devices respond better, and of course my biggest problem with S2 devices that did not work on the Vera, now they all work on Hubitat. I won't even talk about Zigbee which never worked on the Vera.

          The biggest work I am having is adjusting about 80 routines I have in MSR, I don't use anything in the hub, even a simple rule of opening a door and turning on a light I am using MSR. I am doing this to ensure that the hub is as light as possible. When deleting from Vera, I have to search in MSR where I used the device and adjust for the new one in Hubitat. Now there is a good thing, over time I have improved my rules, so in this device tuning revision, I have made improvements and optimizations.

          @Alan_F 's comment about the community is also important, they have a collection of discussions that help a lot in the first steps, I find it hard to search for things, but when I find it, it has been useful in understanding the installation of devices, or APP that can help.

          Now there are some critical points about Hubitat in my opinion:

          • The Z-wave antenna power is lower than the Vera, and this forced me to have repeaters, which did not exist before;
          • In another thread, I comment on the lack of control over device failure. In the Vera if a device does not respond in a certain time, there is a failure indication, in Hubitat it seems that it is an APP, I have not reached this point yet;
          • I am already missing @toggledbits 's Switchboard Plugin, it seems that there is also an APP to do this, but again, you have to look in the community;
          • The dashboard out-of-the-box is very simple and practical, but you have to assemble everything, and the ease with which Vera already has everything ready is over, even with limitations, it at least facilitates the general management of devices. Maybe there is also an APP, I still have to find out;
          • Finally, it is not a big problem, but the automatic integration of MSR with Vera helps a lot. In Hubitat there is a publishing process that bothers me, I hope one-day @toggledbits can align with Hubitat people and have it straight.

          In summary, the change is in my opinion almost inevitable, there is work to be done, but so far I think the results have been good and the effort acceptable for the benefit of having more stability, better and more complete new device drives.

          Thanks.

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            I went from VeraPlus to the combination openLuup(lead), Z-Way and Domoticz, with MSR for automation. Mostly because i was happy with the openluup interface, and there was good integration to Z-way, which is one of the best z-wave handlers i think. Haven't seen any other that match the "Expert" panel in z-way..

            Domoticz has a very good plugin for Zigate, and some other integrations like Tibber and Xiaomi vacuum. RFXtrx433 is hooked to openLuup directly for temperature sensors.

            Not the simplest path, but it's working very well! I could probably simplify this with i.e. Home assistant, but when i tried it, the zigbee pluigns weren't up to speed in my opinion.

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              thanks all for the feedback. I will check out Hubitat and see how it does.

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                I went for Homeseer, I liked you could run it local either on Windows or roll your own PC with 30 days to try it out.
                Horses for courses, what suits one doesn't suit the other.

                aka Zedrally

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